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[Merlin Dawnweaver]

On Guns:
Dwaves in Thedas have smokeless fuel, The Qunari has gunpowder.

Is it so farfetched to have firearms in DA2 ?

It could be argued that guns would play the same role as crossbows, but that's not necessarily the case –
While crossbows provide a ranged option for a strength character, the gun provides one-shot nuke for non-magic character.

Firearms have huge front-load damage (with high AP but low attack) but less DPS than other ranged options. It gives non-mages a powerful first shot before they switch to something that doesn't take as long to load.
Guns could also be made to fire only if ammo is present, which can be expensive/scarce.

Sorry again if someone beat me to this idea.

On Cannons:

Cannons could be implemented as reusable traps. Take a while to assemble/arm them but they WILL blow giant, gaping hole in enemy formations.

Before you ask why a party would carry such a thing around - consider the fact that the DA party is fully capable of hauling around a hundred suits of massive armor.

Detailed idea Proposal:

Cannons and gunnery profession

Gunnery profession competes directly with trap-making. It
would be unlocked by a difficult side quest.

Basic gunnery – allow a character to setup a cannon.  The piece takes a minute of real time to assemble
and then thirty seconds to load. Allows production and use of tier one
shots.  (Basic solid shots) It also
naturally allows the gunner to disassemble the weapon and return it to the
inventory.

Advanced gunnery – allow a character to setup and take down
cannons in half the time. It also allows production and use of tier two shots (grape
and incendiary).

Expert gunnery – allow a character to load the cannon in
half the time. Expert skill allows production and use of powerful tier three
shots (Canister and quicklime).

Master gunnery – The master gunner is an expert engineer and
is capable of producing shots at a reduced cost. The master gunner is also only
ones capable of production and use of the volatile and expensive explosive shots.

Modifié par Merlin Dawnweaver, 31 août 2010 - 07:40 .

[ErichHartmann]

No, Dragon Age is not Fable or World of Warcraft.

[Dr. wonderful]

The qunari have cannons, but that's it.

[Merlin Dawnweaver]

Dr. wonderful wrote...

The qunari have cannons, but that's it.

If you think of it, cannons are just large caliber firearms. 
And right back at you.

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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 31 août 2010 - 08:32 .

[2papercuts]

ErichHartmann wrote...

No, Dragon Age is not Fable or World of Warcraft.

this is questionable
right now i could say Dragon Age 2 is in some ways closer to Fable 2 than DAO

lets hope so, then we can have another shooter

Modifié par 2papercuts, 31 août 2010 - 03:25 .

[ProudNegro]

If you think of it



go play fable 2 >.<

[Daerog]

Ya, it is a stretch. Technology isn't that far along yet, even for the qunari. However, it is BioWare's world, they could include a ridiculous jump in technology (that doesn't include magic) or even add giant golems that act like Gundams if they wish.

[wwwwowwww]

If i wanted to play with guns I'd play another game

[Perfect-Kenshin]

Guns in this game and Swords in Mass Effect. Then everything would be perfect.

[Merlin Dawnweaver]

Come on, be open-minded.
Guns are weapons of Cynical, and Dragon age is pretty Cynical. Is there a more cynical way to kill off a character in shiny tin can then a weighted shot from a musket.

Modifié par Merlin Dawnweaver, 31 août 2010 - 03:27 .

[ProudNegro]

No

[Merlin Dawnweaver]

Yes.
FYI that had never solved any dispute.
And I am not asking for computers or automatic cannons here, guns existed in the period and in the setting (as cannons). I am just asking for a usable form of it.

Modifié par Merlin Dawnweaver, 31 août 2010 - 03:29 .

[Elessara]

I've always prefered fantasy that was low tech. Swords and magic yes, guns no. So I would not prefer guns in DA2.

[Merlin Dawnweaver]

You know what ? Cannons could even be implemented as reusable traps. Take a while to assemble/arm them but they WILL blow giant, gaping hole in enemy formations.

Before you ask why a party would carry such a thing around - consider the fact that the DA party is fully capable of hauling around a hundred suits of massive armor.

[TJPags]

no - no guns. I'll honestly shut the thing off if it has guns

[IndomitusRex]

Dragon Age is touted as a dark fantasy, and firearms really don't fit into that setting very well. In something like WarCraft, where they've got gyrocopters, steam tanks, and underwater trams that go from continent to continent, firearms fit right in. In the low magic, quasi-Gothic world of Thedas guns just don't make as much sense as a good crossbow to me.

[Daerog]

Merlin Dawnweaver wrote...

You know what ? Cannons could even be implemented as reusable traps. Take a while to assemble/arm them but they WILL blow giant, gaping hole in enemy formations.
Before you ask why a party would carry such a thing around - consider the fact that the DA party is fully capable of hauling around a hundred suits of massive armor.

Eh, I'd rather throw a Fireball, create an Inferno, cause an earthquake, or even complete a Storm of the Century on an enemy fortification if I had to. So, I could still carry all that armor to the market, or even sell the cannon if I found it.

[Merlin Dawnweaver]

But there are already cannons in low magic, qusai Gothic world of Thedas.

It would be extremely rare and very unwieldy (such as each cannonball take up a place in the inventory) but provide an extremely gruesome method of disposing your enemies if you do manage to set it up.

[Merlin Dawnweaver]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Merlin Dawnweaver wrote...

You know what ? Cannons could even be implemented as reusable traps. Take a while to assemble/arm them but they WILL blow giant, gaping hole in enemy formations.
Before you ask why a party would carry such a thing around - consider the fact that the DA party is fully capable of hauling around a hundred suits of massive armor.

Eh, I'd rather throw a Fireball, create an Inferno, cause an earthquake, or even complete a Storm of the Century on an enemy fortification if I had to. So, I could still carry all that armor to the market, or even sell the cannon if I found it.

Of course not everyone should be forced to use it. It could even be a serious danger to your party should they stand in its field of fire.
But nothing could be lost by adding an extremely entertaining combat option for spoiled rich parties. (like traps)

Modifié par Merlin Dawnweaver, 31 août 2010 - 03:40 .

[Mecha Tengu]

what's wrong with canons?



it seems as if most western fantasy rely too much on their tolkien-recycled crap



Id like a new change and throw in some technology rather than "LOLOLOLOL KEKEKEKEKE LEGOLAZSLSS IS LIKE SHOOT ARROWS SO KEWL"

[wowpwnslol]

I will not buy DA2, unless my character can equip and use the following item:

[Merlin Dawnweaver]

why stop there





Meh. Primitive Cannons could be fun

[Homebound]

I dunno..At most the Qunari would have those flintrock rifles or something.