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[AndroLeonidas]

Aradace wrote...

Funker Shepard wrote...

Shaun2406 wrote...

About her joining, not that its necessarily going to happen (or even likely), but with Chris's saying the DLC will be more 'satisfying' post SM, perhaps if you play pre-SM she states she's busy and can't join you at the conclusion of the DLC, and then becomes 'un-busy' post SM (for use in potential future DLC/expansion) wheras if played post SM she joins you directly after the DLC is completed?

I've been thinking about the same thing, and it would both a) make sense  be pretty cool.

We'll know soon enough (but it's going to be a really long four days.)

Even in the end, the Liara fans STILL hold on to that final ember of hope....They fan it, blow on it.....Do everything they can to keep that hope alive even when most of the facts are already on the table and said evidence is stacked against them.  It's almost....admirable....."almost"

Well... if you have hard evidence that she won't be a squaddie... by all means share. Unless it comes directly from Chris or someone at Bioware it doesn't mean a whole lot to be honest. While I'm sure you have a list of the whys and why nots... it just doesn't matter. Unless you are a developer on this game it's all supposition. Just like my opinions and everyone else. I believe Liara will be a squaddie. You don't. Leave it a that and don't make fun of a certain base of fans who believe differently from you.

[Aradace]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Funker Shepard wrote...

Shaun2406 wrote...

About her joining, not that its necessarily going to happen (or even likely), but with Chris's saying the DLC will be more 'satisfying' post SM, perhaps if you play pre-SM she states she's busy and can't join you at the conclusion of the DLC, and then becomes 'un-busy' post SM (for use in potential future DLC/expansion) wheras if played post SM she joins you directly after the DLC is completed?

I've been thinking about the same thing, and it would both a) make sense  be pretty cool.

We'll know soon enough (but it's going to be a really long four days.)

Even in the end, the Liara fans STILL hold on to that final ember of hope....They fan it, blow on it.....Do everything they can to keep that hope alive even when most of the facts are already on the table and said evidence is stacked against them.  It's almost....admirable....."almost"

Well... if you have hard evidence that she won't be a squaddie... by all means share. Unless it comes directly from Chris or someone at Bioware it doesn't mean a whole lot to be honest. While I'm sure you have a list of the whys and why nots... it just doesn't matter. Unless you are a developer on this game it's all supposition. Just like my opinions and everyone else. I believe Liara will be a squaddie. You don't. Leave it a that and don't make fun of a certain base of fans who believe differently from you.

That's fine by me lol....However, does that mean I get to come back in 4 days and deliver the inevitable line of "I told you so?"  You dont need info strait from the proverbial horse's mouth when all the evidence (circumstantial as most of it is) points to it not happening.  Use logic guys, not emotion when drawing these conclusions.  Dont let your love for Liara cloud the common sense part of your brain.

[thepaladin1]

besides the fact that bioware says there will be no more recruitable squadies?

Modifié par thepaladin1, 03 septembre 2010 - 12:43 .

[nightcobra]

Aradace wrote...

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Funker Shepard wrote...

Shaun2406 wrote...

About her joining, not that its necessarily going to happen (or even likely), but with Chris's saying the DLC will be more 'satisfying' post SM, perhaps if you play pre-SM she states she's busy and can't join you at the conclusion of the DLC, and then becomes 'un-busy' post SM (for use in potential future DLC/expansion) wheras if played post SM she joins you directly after the DLC is completed?

I've been thinking about the same thing, and it would both a) make sense  be pretty cool.

We'll know soon enough (but it's going to be a really long four days.)

Even in the end, the Liara fans STILL hold on to that final ember of hope....They fan it, blow on it.....Do everything they can to keep that hope alive even when most of the facts are already on the table and said evidence is stacked against them.  It's almost....admirable....."almost"

Well... if you have hard evidence that she won't be a squaddie... by all means share. Unless it comes directly from Chris or someone at Bioware it doesn't mean a whole lot to be honest. While I'm sure you have a list of the whys and why nots... it just doesn't matter. Unless you are a developer on this game it's all supposition. Just like my opinions and everyone else. I believe Liara will be a squaddie. You don't. Leave it a that and don't make fun of a certain base of fans who believe differently from you.

That's fine by me lol....However, does that mean I get to come back in 4 days and deliver the inevitable line of "I told you so?"  You dont need info strait from the proverbial horse's mouth when all the evidence (circumstantial as most of it is) points to it not happening.  Use logic guys, not emotion when drawing these conclusions.  Dont let your love for Liara cloud the common sense part of your brain.

common sense dictates to wait and see, nothing more nothing less

[Aradace]

Not when you can make an educated guess based off of evidence already present

On that note, I can truly see more threads like this being started next week when the DLC hits and people start finishing it and coming in here and complaining how the only reason they bought the DLC was based off of them believing Liara was going to join the team permanently and felt robbed etc. etc. and the whining will continue.

Modifié par Aradace, 03 septembre 2010 - 01:00 .

[Shaun2406]

Oops! I was trying to avoid this type of debate when I said "not that its necessarily going to happen (or even likely)". I am a big fan of Liara (though I wouldn't consider myself 'hardcore' in reference to a poster a little while back) and it would be awesome if she could join as a squadmate, I know BW said no more squadmates, I know it would be difficult to implement, I accept that its probably not going to happen...



But I'm still allowed to hope it will right? Theres nothing wrong with that? And I'll enjoy the dlc either way I'm sure (its not like I'm not going to declare a boycott of bioware of my undying hatred of them, or even really be dissapointed if she doesn't join!) It just would be nice thats all, and its kinda fun to speculate on how her joining could be implemented?

[charmingcharlie]

thepaladin1 wrote...

besides the fact that bioware says there will be no more recruitable squadies?

Yeah Bioware say a lot of things and then change their mind.  Just because Bioware said something does not make it "set in stone".  At the end of the day no one on this forum knows for sure whether Liara will be recruitable or not, I don't think she will be but I HOPE she will be.  I know it would certainly encourage me to do a few more playthroughs of ME 2 again using Liara as a squad mate. 

Ultimately that is the aim of the DLC to get us playing their game again and buying the game again for those that have sold ME 2.  At the moment I am happy to know that the DLC will be aimed at "after SM" as an added bonus I would like to see Liara integrated into ME 2 in some way (rather than just one mission and she sods off again).

[Aradace]

Shaun2406 wrote...

...But I'm still allowed to hope it will right? Theres nothing wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with it really no....Except that false hope does no one any good in the end

Modifié par Aradace, 03 septembre 2010 - 01:02 .

[Shaun2406]

But it does mean you have more fun in the brief spell before your dreams come crashing down around you right?

[Wiggs Magee]

Looks sexy as hell I just hope with the vechile parts its third time the charm =). Gunna buy it the day it's out

[AilCross1912]

Aradace wrote...

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Funker Shepard wrote...

Shaun2406 wrote...

About her joining, not that its necessarily going to happen (or even likely), but with Chris's saying the DLC will be more 'satisfying' post SM, perhaps if you play pre-SM she states she's busy and can't join you at the conclusion of the DLC, and then becomes 'un-busy' post SM (for use in potential future DLC/expansion) wheras if played post SM she joins you directly after the DLC is completed?

I've been thinking about the same thing, and it would both a) make sense  be pretty cool.

We'll know soon enough (but it's going to be a really long four days.)

Even in the end, the Liara fans STILL hold on to that final ember of hope....They fan it, blow on it.....Do everything they can to keep that hope alive even when most of the facts are already on the table and said evidence is stacked against them.  It's almost....admirable....."almost"

Well... if you have hard evidence that she won't be a squaddie... by all means share. Unless it comes directly from Chris or someone at Bioware it doesn't mean a whole lot to be honest. While I'm sure you have a list of the whys and why nots... it just doesn't matter. Unless you are a developer on this game it's all supposition. Just like my opinions and everyone else. I believe Liara will be a squaddie. You don't. Leave it a that and don't make fun of a certain base of fans who believe differently from you.

That's fine by me lol....However, does that mean I get to come back in 4 days and deliver the inevitable line of "I told you so?"  You dont need info strait from the proverbial horse's mouth when all the evidence (circumstantial as most of it is) points to it not happening.  Use logic guys, not emotion when drawing these conclusions.  Dont let your love for Liara cloud the common sense part of your brain.

Well, I didn't want to comment on the subject matter because like one person said "we'll see on the 7th", but I have an opinion so I thought I'd share. I don't believe she will be recruitable because she wasn't recruitable to begin with. OK, maybe that doean't make sense yet, but let me explain. Bioware kept her un-recuitable so she won't have the ability to die and have relevance in ME3. Well, since you can do this mission pre or post suicide, that kinds of tells you right there that she won't be recruitable. For Ex. Someone could complete LotSB and recuit Liara before the suicide mission, then do the suicide mission and give her something stupid like be the tech specialist and die. That would defeat the purpose of Liara not being recruitable before LotSB. Please don't yell at me.....

[Aradace]

@AilCross - That's the heaviest piece of evidence AGAINST the "Liara Crowd" (for lack of a less constructive term) but still....They will deny it to the bitter end that it is circumstantial at best and that BW could miraculously change it at the last minute because the "Fans" wanted it so.....This close to release....yea....not...gonna...happen

[UndercoverDoctor]

Aradace wrote...

Demigod wrote...

. Bioware drew it to start with I'm sure they can resize it and add in another if they so wished.

But they wont....Bottom line

How exactly do you know they won't?

[JeanLuc761]

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Demigod wrote...

. Bioware drew it to start with I'm sure they can resize it and add in another if they so wished.

But they wont....Bottom line

How exactly do you know they won't?

He doesn't, but that's not really the point here.  Almost all of the evidence given by the trailers/screenshots points to Liara indeed being a squadmate in this DLC, but it says nothing about the rest of the game.

It's a far greater leap to assume Bioware would re-design the entire game to accomodate an extra squadmate than it is to assume she'll only be a squadmate for this DLC.

It's called "The Dirty Dozen" for a reason, people, and we already have 2 extremely potent biotics.

[Aradace]

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Demigod wrote...

. Bioware drew it to start with I'm sure they can resize it and add in another if they so wished.

But they wont....Bottom line

How exactly do you know they won't?

This close to release....nah....not gonna happen.  Because the mission be played BEFORE the SM or AFTER the SM....Meaning if Liara was going to be recruitable, she'd be on the "chopping block" to get killed in the SM.  Not to mention BW has already mentioned something like this in one of their articles on the DLC already because they want to keep her "relevant" in ME3.  That is them saying, without outright saying, "Sorry guys, you dont get to have Liara in ME2, better luck in ME3."

Modifié par Aradace, 03 septembre 2010 - 01:55 .

[NYG1991]

^ good point. They did say they wanted ME1 LI s to survive to be in part 3. It would still be cool to have liara as the biotic shield though.

[thepaladin1]

If it were to be after the suicide mission then I'd be more inclined to believe she would be recruitable since this is a bridging DLC but it can be done BEFORE the suicide mission. Since this is a bridging DLC maybe you can recruit her after the suicide mission but I peg those chances at 0%.

[theelementslayer]

Aradace wrote...

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Demigod wrote...

. Bioware drew it to start with I'm sure they can resize it and add in another if they so wished.

But they wont....Bottom line

How exactly do you know they won't?

This close to release....nah....not gonna happen.  Because the mission be played BEFORE the SM or AFTER the SM....Meaning if Liara was going to be recruitable, she'd be on the "chopping block" to get killed in the SM.  Not to mention BW has already mentioned something like this in one of their articles on the DLC already because they want to keep her "relevant" in ME3.  That is them saying, without outright saying, "Sorry guys, you dont get to have Liara in ME2, better luck in ME3."

Ah yes but Chirs said the devs told him that a post SM play will give you a more satisfying story. Plus we still have to think about that one thing that they said they wouldnt release about the Liara DLC to avoid spoilers. Something that will make us really happy?

[AilCross1912]

I do believe however that she will be in our squad during the DLC, being all angry biotic kung-fu master and such.......

[AilCross1912]

theelementslayer wrote...

Aradace wrote...

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Demigod wrote...

. Bioware drew it to start with I'm sure they can resize it and add in another if they so wished.

But they wont....Bottom line

How exactly do you know they won't?

This close to release....nah....not gonna happen.  Because the mission be played BEFORE the SM or AFTER the SM....Meaning if Liara was going to be recruitable, she'd be on the "chopping block" to get killed in the SM.  Not to mention BW has already mentioned something like this in one of their articles on the DLC already because they want to keep her "relevant" in ME3.  That is them saying, without outright saying, "Sorry guys, you dont get to have Liara in ME2, better luck in ME3."

Ah yes but Chirs said the devs told him that a post SM play will give you a more satisfying story. Plus we still have to think about that one thing that they said they wouldnt release about the Liara DLC to avoid spoilers. Something that will make us really happy?

I think that's the reveal of who the shadow broker is( seems like people have forgoten) and the new biotic buff that may or may not be in LotSB. But hey if Liara were to join the team, I'd be totally OK with it.............. it's just highly unlikely to me.

[NYG1991]

The only way I can see liara as a squad mate is if they do a post sm expansion where you import an me2 shep or something

[m deezy]

so is liara on your team now? or just for one mission?

[JaegerBane]

JeanLuc761 wrote...
It's called "The Dirty Dozen" for a reason, people, and we already have 2 extremely potent biotics.

Jack? Extremly potent? In cutscenes, maybe...

[Aradace]

theelementslayer wrote...

Aradace wrote...

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Demigod wrote...

. Bioware drew it to start with I'm sure they can resize it and add in another if they so wished.

But they wont....Bottom line

How exactly do you know they won't?

This close to release....nah....not gonna happen.  Because the mission be played BEFORE the SM or AFTER the SM....Meaning if Liara was going to be recruitable, she'd be on the "chopping block" to get killed in the SM.  Not to mention BW has already mentioned something like this in one of their articles on the DLC already because they want to keep her "relevant" in ME3.  That is them saying, without outright saying, "Sorry guys, you dont get to have Liara in ME2, better luck in ME3."

Ah yes but Chirs said the devs told him that a post SM play will give you a more satisfying story. Plus we still have to think about that one thing that they said they wouldnt release about the Liara DLC to avoid spoilers. Something that will make us really happy?

If you're talking about the "continuation of the relationship" part....You have to realize that they said "Relationship" and not "Romance" that may not SEEM to be relevant but it is.