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[jlb524]

Yes, true. I was never a big fan of Merrill (from what little I know of her) but will give hers a try with my second LadyHawke. Who knows, I might be pleasantly surprised.

[Bluto Blutarskyx]

i think bioware is prejudice against polyamorous people since there is no f-f-f romance option.


bioware's prejudice against certain sexual orientations is unforgiveable and a clear reason why they should be kneecapped to serve as an example.

[jlb524]

Bluto Blutarskyx wrote...
i think bioware is prejudice against polyamorous people since there is no f-f-f romance option.

There might be, as far as we know.

[Knight of Dane]

Bluto Blutarskyx wrote...

i think bioware is prejudice against polyamorous people since there is no f-f-f romance option.


bioware's prejudice against certain sexual orientations is unforgiveable and a clear reason why they should be kneecapped to serve as an example.

How do you know that? 

There has only been confirmed that there are these five romanceables, but there should be more npc's outside the party to play with, a type like Isabella version Origins might be found among them.

[Wynne]

Ailith430 wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

OH GOOD SUGGESTION, EVERYONE WHO HAS A PROBLEM WITH THE GAME SHOULD JUST GET OVER IT.

Yeah, bascially. Constructive critisism and nerd raging are two very different things. The game is done. So now you can either stomp around and troll each and every romance thread like some giant man child or you can deal with it and enjoy the game when it comes out.

*awed expression* That was quite well said indeed.

MorningBird wrote...

OMG I forgot this place was here. :<

I already posted this in the Merrill thread, but here, have a Lady!Hawke and a Merrill.



I want this to happen. :<

That is lovely, MB.  I think I'll definitely romance Merrill as a female; I think somehow it would feel too conventional to romance her as a male.

LiquidGrape wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

So, which one will you all go for first?

Isabela

And why?

She's a pirate.

This. This on toast.

*the highest of fives*

I return your highest of fives!  (Love that show SO much.) 

I was originally thinking this would be so simple--that my red-haired, brown eyed archer rogue (gonna base her off of Lynsey Bartilson a little bit, with a somewhat tougher look) would be with Isabela. But now that Merrill's in, I'm not 100% sure. It's so hard to resist the lure of the badass piratess wench, but if I liked Merrill's personality enough...

Eee, I will actually have a CHOICE this time! My Juhani gal, my Jade Empire main PC, and Ryla Shepard each only had a single option. The fact that my archer will have the opportunity to take her pick based on which suits her better... it really entices me to make those kinds of in-between characters, you know? The meaty sort that you really have to think about what they're going to want. I'm looking forward to my DA2 playthroughs almost too much, now... it makes me worry that my hype level is getting too high. But I still think it's going to be pretty awesome.

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Anders was also straight in
Awakenings unless you wanna make the cop out arguement of "he was in
the closet" even though thedas is accepting of homosexuality and so is
the chantry so he had no reason to hide it.

Just because I know this will come up again even if you've accepted things as they are by now: 

Anders flirts with Oghren, who mocks him in suggestive ways. He sounds dirty when he talks to Nathaniel about being naked. Would you have preferred that he grabbed your male Warden and gave him a full-on kiss, would that be what you need to believe that a character is bi, (or perhaps that Bioware wouldn't think it's a good idea to have him do so?) or can you accept that maybe in a small month's window of time other things were just more important than Anders proclaiming loudly until everyone hears him, "I do NOT like only women, BUT ALSO MEN!!!"

Nathaniel: "You don't always wear robes, do you?"
Anders: "Not when I'm naked, I don't."

Listen to the tone of voice in which he says that. And when Oghren teases him about wearing a skirt (a sign that his gaydar is going off, or possibly even that he's attracted to Anders and doesn't know how to deal with it) Anders responds: 

Anders: "You know how strict things are in the Circle, right? Of course you do, well--robes make quick trysts in the corner easy.... no laces or buttons, you just... well, you're done before the templars catch on."

And then there's Oghren's making fun of Anders. I don't recall him ever making fun of a male Warden mage, but when it comes to Anders: 

Oghren: "Ohh, no, don't take me back to the tower! I'm far, far too delicate! Ohh nooo, big templar man? What are you going to do with that sword? *raunchy laugh*" 

Anders' "ew" can be explained thusly: It was a templar and a sword he was talking about, not a mage's harmlessly blunt staff. I don't think I need to spell that one out further.

And "Anders" in Dutch and German means "different." Just because the fact that he's different than what you thought was subtle enough that you didn't notice it--possibly because they wanted to keep Awakening fairly asexual in tone--doesn't mean it wasn't there under your nose all along.

Neither Anders nor Sigrun nor Nathaniel nor Velanna talks about former lovers--does that make them all virgins? No? Well, then it doesn't make them all straight either. And if you're going to say that flirting with each other makes them one sexuality, then I'm going to have to call EVERY MALE IN AWAKENING IS ATTRACTED TO MEN.

Oghren: The whole quiet and stoic thing must get you a lot of action, huh?

Nathaniel: I take it you're an admirer, Oghren?

Oghren: "What? NO! No, well... not unless... no!"

Apparently, they were all bi in Awakening as well.

If not, then maybe, just maybe, it was just left ambiguous, since Awakening is such a small sliver of time and I doubt Bioware likes beating the player over the head with a character's personal traits. One trick of the writing trade; "show, don't tell." Bludgeoning the player with a fact, like stating outright that Wade and Herren were a couple, would have been lame.

That kind of Captain Obvious, Have I Mentioned I Am Homosexual/Heterosexual/Bisexual Today BS is so unnecessary. I for one am glad they didn't do it that way.

I don't think that Nathaniel or Oghren are necessarily bi, but sexuality is still not a simple matter. That Anders is bi is no stretch to me--of course, I had the feeling he was from the moment I first met him in game. Make of that what you will.

Modifié par Wynne, 04 mars 2011 - 11:43 .

[Knight of Dane]

Wynne wrote...

*Lots of blah-blah*

Hey Wynne, wanna marry me?

Modifié par Knight of Dane, 05 mars 2011 - 01:06 .

[Ammonite]

Wynne wrote...
Eee, I will actually have a CHOICE this time! 

I'm having a hard time processing that, myself! It's so unbelievably good!
Me, I'll go for Isabela. She has this element of adventure to her that I like, like she's seen a lot of things, been many places, and had a lot of camaraderie with those she sailed with. Plus, she seems very comfortable with her sexuality (not referring to orientation), which is a trait I personally find very attractive in women.

[Mike_Hawke]

I hope Isabella and Merril are interested in one another so I can romance them both and end up with both like in jade empire.

[IndelibleJester]

Wynne wrote...

That kind of Captain Obvious, Have I Mentioned I Am Homosexual/Heterosexual/Bisexual Today BS is so unnecessary. I for one am glad they didn't do it that way.

I agree with this.

And your others, too.
But this deserved to be reposted. No need to advertise sexuality to someone you're not going to have sex with: Anders need not inform the Warden he is bi. His remarks about women are most likely an amusement.

Also, I'm not sure who I like more. It's such a hard decision... they are both so lovely <3

Modifié par IndelibleJester, 05 mars 2011 - 10:10 .

[RPGamer13]

According to the guide: once you get a place with one of the characters then any sugfestive flirting with other characters will have an adverse effect on your relationship.

I am going for Isabela myself, ever since Origins I had wished she was a party member and now she really is!

But that thing in the selected guide pages, makes me more interested in Merrill than I was at first. Also, I wonder how her and Fenris being in the party at the same time will be handled.

[Mike_Hawke]

Straight people constantly advertize their sexuality. Gay people often advertize their sexuality because they're an invisable minority. Why wouldn't bisexual people do the same?

[IndelibleJester]

Mike_Hawke wrote...

Straight people constantly advertize their sexuality. Gay people often advertize their sexuality because they're an invisable minority. Why wouldn't bisexual people do the same?

We were talking about sexuality advertisement in general, not just bisexuals.

[Mike_Hawke]

IndelibleJester wrote...

Mike_Hawke wrote...

Straight people constantly advertize their sexuality. Gay people often advertize their sexuality because they're an invisable minority. Why wouldn't bisexual people do the same?

We were talking about sexuality advertisement in general, not just bisexuals.

Okay. I think it's healthy for people to advertize their sexuality. Simply that when gay and bisexual people do it, they're too harshly judged.

[IndelibleJester]

Mike_Hawke wrote...

IndelibleJester wrote...

Mike_Hawke wrote...

Straight people constantly advertize their sexuality. Gay people often advertize their sexuality because they're an invisable minority. Why wouldn't bisexual people do the same?

We were talking about sexuality advertisement in general, not just bisexuals.

Okay. I think it's healthy for people to advertize their sexuality. Simply that when gay and bisexual people do it, they're too harshly judged.

That's a personal preference, definitely. I don't particularly enjoy it when others advertise their sexuality. I don't particularly do it myself, either.

[Twofold Black]

Mike_Hawke wrote...

Straight people constantly advertize their sexuality. Gay people often advertize their sexuality because they're an invisable minority. Why wouldn't bisexual people do the same?

No one of any orientation should be required to advertise their sexuality, and many people do not.

[AlexandraK]

And I want Merill

[Ammonite]

Rose20 wrote...

And I want Merill

Your avatar: I love it! Deviantart, right? I believe I saw it there once.
Also, on Merrill: Care to elaborate?

[jlb524]

Romance choice...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT DO I DO!!

Not used to this feeling...

Anyway, as mentioned, my canon Hawke will be all over Isabela, but I will give the Merrill romance a shot after that, unless I find her character horrible for some reason.

[TMA LIVE]

jlb524 wrote...

Romance choice...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT DO I DO!!

Not used to this feeling...

Anyway, as mentioned, my canon Hawke will be all over Isabela, but I will give the Merrill romance a shot after that, unless I find her character horrible for some reason.

Unless you get split after playing the game for the first time. It happens. Sometimes, after spending hours with both characters, you don't know what to do, unless you follow a plan.

[jlb524]

I kind of am following a plan, but we shall see what happens in a few days, I suppose.

[alaska the 1st]

Rose20 wrote...

And I want Merill

You might get your wish 

[mione]

I'm romancing Merrill first =) I've seen her in action and she is adorable~

I'm so happy everyone is bi now XD I can finally rpg the way I want to and not through fanfics.

[Erani]

I'm romancing Izzy first. She's got so much fire....and Dem Hips 
Then I want to romance Fenris as MHawke but right after that Merrill/Lady Hawke. 

[Hekate]

I really hope those F/F Merrill pics are actually real. I wanna romance Merrill as Lady Hawke sooo bad.

Sadly I had the same want for Tali and look how that turned out.. Then again there were never F/F romance Tali pics popping up so.