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[Bryy_Miller]

 So, get this: in the epilogue for Drunk Alistair, it says that he was last seen at a bar in Starkhaven.
Starkhaven is right next to thr Minater River, on the outskirts of the Tevinter Imperium and Antiva. And within the Free Marches. 

If Alistair's rebellion is set for a year after Origins, that would put it squarely on Witch Hunt, and possibly make it the last DA event that occurs inside DA2's timeline. What if Hawke has a hand in helping (even unwittingly) this rebellion along? What if you get a few quests out of it? Quests reliant on what choices you make are not unheard of - they happened in Awakening.

Too bad the change of Drunk Alistair becoming a companion is a fool's errand. 

[Saibh]

I so totally want to see him. He needs to be miserable. In turn, this will make me miserable. But, like, fun, you know.

[Maverick827]

Drunk Alistair is cannon?

[ProudNegro]

I dont wanna see my Bromance like that

[Dave of Canada]

This would be interesting, seeing a drunken Alistair rambling about how my Warden is the biggest **** in all of Thedas and how he is the heir of Ferelden and all that.

[SDNcN]

Maverick827 wrote...

Drunk Alistair is cannon?

No, but you can import saves into DA:2.

[Kyenne]

Maverick827 wrote...

Drunk Alistair is cannon?

There's no canon, but like anything else, Drunk Alistair is a possibility if you import the right save.


I want to see drunk and miserable Alistair so much -- I don't even know why, since I'm a big Alistair fan. I still think potential for an Alistair cameo is limited, though, given how many different endings he can have.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

I wouldn't mind seeing Allistair-the-drunkard in DA2.

On a slightly related note:
If you have a Female warden who romanced him but did NOT make him king, and chose to make the sacrifice yourself (by leaving him at the gate). Don't he end up leaving the grey wardens for good and become some sort of wanderer.

Wouldn't mind seeing that version of Alistair too.

[Bryy_Miller]

Dave of Canada wrote...

This would be interesting, seeing a drunken Alistair rambling about how my Warden is the biggest **** in all of Thedas and how he is the heir of Ferelden and all that.

I completed my last speed run simply so I could get this save file. Now I have three extremely diverse characters to enter DA2 with.

[Maverick827]

SDNcN wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

Drunk Alistair is cannon?

No, but you can import saves into DA:2.

Yes, but just as Hawke cannot be Morrigan's son, Drunk Alistair cannot be an integral part to the plot.  Our decisions will matter, but not in an extensive way that would make any one of them excessively unprofitable.  I have never betrayed Alistair except once for the achievement; as a consumer, I would never see any sort of Dunk Alistair content, and to make such content so large and reaching is not a good business practice.

I actually expect our choices to be nothing more than passing references in dialog.  "Oh, did you hear about that Dalish massacre in Ferelden?  It was pretty brutal.  Anyway, back to the plot of this game..."

[Kyenne]

Lizardviking wrote...

I wouldn't mind seeing Allistair-the-drunkard in DA2.

On a slightly related note:
If you have a Female warden who romanced him but did NOT make him king, and chose to make the sacrifice yourself (by leaving him at the gate). Don't he end up leaving the grey wardens for good and become some sort of wanderer.

Wouldn't mind seeing that version of Alistair too.

I think that's what happens in all the Dead Warden + Queen Anora endings, where Alistair isn't executed or drunk, at least. I've never had a playthrough where we've both been alive at the end, I haven't romanced him and he wasn't made king (or exiled), though, so I don't know what he tells you he's going to do in that scenario.

[Sternchen]

No, i don´t want see my sweet Alistair so...

Want have the memories on my big love...;-)

[Bryy_Miller]

Maverick827 wrote...

SDNcN wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

Drunk Alistair is cannon?

No, but you can import saves into DA:2.

Yes, but just as Hawke cannot be Morrigan's son, Drunk Alistair cannot be an integral part to the plot.  Our decisions will matter, but not in an extensive way that would make any one of them excessively unprofitable.  I have never betrayed Alistair except once for the achievement; as a consumer, I would never see any sort of Dunk Alistair content, and to make such content so large and reaching is not a good business practice.

I actually expect our choices to be nothing more than passing references in dialog.  "Oh, did you hear about that Dalish massacre in Ferelden?  It was pretty brutal.  Anyway, back to the plot of this game..."

I'm actually on the fence about this. BioWare's been talking about how they want you to shape the world.

[Dave of Canada]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

This would be interesting, seeing a drunken Alistair rambling about how my Warden is the biggest **** in all of Thedas and how he is the heir of Ferelden and all that.

I completed my last speed run simply so I could get this save file. Now I have three extremely diverse characters to enter DA2 with.

Off-topic but..

All my save files have the following.

My very first playthrough:
Sided with Templars (Irving died due to me not knowing how to use the Lithany)
Isolde sacrificed for Connor.
Harrowmont as King.
Werewolves freed from the curse.
Leliana romance.
Anora / Alistair on the throne.
Dark Ritual.
Boon: Serving the crown.

My second more understanding of the game playthrough:
Sided with Mages.
Connor saved with mages.
Bhelen is king.
Werewolves freed from the curse.
Leliana romance.
Anora / Alistair on the throne.
Ultimate Sacrifice.

My third playthrough that deviated only at two points from the second one:
Anora on the throne.
Loghain was recruited.
Loghain sacrificed.
Boon: Serving the crown.

My fourth "pseudo-canon" playthrough:
Sided with Mages.
Connor saved with mages.
Bhelen is king.
Werewolves freed from the curse.
Morrigan romance.
Anora / Hardened Alistair on the throne.
Dark Ritual.
Boon: Teryn of Gwaren.

A deviation of the fourth "canon" playthrough:
Loghain was recruited.
Anora / Hardened Alistair on the throne.
Dark Ritual.
Boon: Teryn of Gwaren.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 01 septembre 2010 - 07:28 .

[Dave of Canada]

Maverick827 wrote...

Yes, but just as Hawke cannot be Morrigan's son, Drunk Alistair cannot be an integral part to the plot.  Our decisions will matter, but not in an extensive way that would make any one of them excessively unprofitable.  I have never betrayed Alistair except once for the achievement; as a consumer, I would never see any sort of Dunk Alistair content, and to make such content so large and reaching is not a good business practice.

But it's a cameo. Those who killed Wrex in ME1 never got to see him in ME2, doesn't mean the content didn't need to be created. Just having a cameo of a drunken Alistair wandering around Kirkwall and people telling him to go away and "shoo" with him delivering a line about how he was supposed to be king of Ferelden and such would probably  be enough.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Kyenne wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

I wouldn't mind seeing Allistair-the-drunkard in DA2.

On a slightly related note:
If you have a Female warden who romanced him but did NOT make him king, and chose to make the sacrifice yourself (by leaving him at the gate). Don't he end up leaving the grey wardens for good and become some sort of wanderer.

Wouldn't mind seeing that version of Alistair too.

I think that's what happens in all the Dead Warden + Queen Anora endings, where Alistair isn't executed or drunk, at least. I've never had a playthrough where we've both been alive at the end, I haven't romanced him and he wasn't made king (or exiled), though, so I don't know what he tells you he's going to do in that scenario.

Really? I haven't got those endings. But I always just assume that he still continues to serve as a grey warden in Ferelden. And that it's only in the version where the warden was his love that he finally feels like he have taken enough crap from life and leaves.

[Dave of Canada]

The three endings where Alistair doesn't become king or killed are here: (took from the wikia)



If The Warden sacrifices herself to kill the Archdemon, and Alistair is in love with her and is left at the gate in the final battle, he survives but feels great grief over her loss. He eventually leaves the Grey Wardens, and travels to Duncan's birthplace to honor him. Where he goes afterward is unknown.



Alistair leaves the Grey Wardens and is last seen hiring a ship to leave Denerim if Anora is made Queen, Loghain is allowed to live, and you convince Anora to spare Alistair's life. A short rebellion borrowing his name occurs a year later but no evidence is found linking it to him. A haggard drunk somewhat matching Alistair's description eventually surfaces at a tavern claiming to have once been a Grey Warden and a prince.



Alistair might choose to follow The Warden around on their next adventures, or help them rebuild the Grey Wardens.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

But that still doesn't explain if the warden dies, and him/her were just friends with Alistair.

[Big_Chief]

I really hope he does turn up. I was always a little sad that he left and became a miserable wretch just because I wanted to spare Loghain.

[Ortaya Alevli]

Cameo alright. Quests and everything bad. Chances of him ending up hanged or a king are just as high. Quests mean extra XP, rewards and gameplay, and this would mess up balance between three outcomes.

Besides, if you're gonna get rid of Alistair, why just leave it there? Might as well go all the way and let Anora have him executed. Bonus points if you get revenge by romancing him AND having him executed. Love it when he says "I thought I meant something for you, but it seems 'something' doesn't cut it." Well, that's what you get for dumping your love because she's just as barren as you for the same reasons. That's also what you get for dumping your love because she isn't no human noble.

I admit I have Alistair issues. Should have stayed the hell away from this thread.

[Bryy_Miller]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

Yes, but just as Hawke cannot be Morrigan's son, Drunk Alistair cannot be an integral part to the plot.  Our decisions will matter, but not in an extensive way that would make any one of them excessively unprofitable.  I have never betrayed Alistair except once for the achievement; as a consumer, I would never see any sort of Dunk Alistair content, and to make such content so large and reaching is not a good business practice.

But it's a cameo. Those who killed Wrex in ME1 never got to see him in ME2, doesn't mean the content didn't need to be created. Just having a cameo of a drunken Alistair wandering around Kirkwall and people telling him to go away and "shoo" with him delivering a line about how he was supposed to be king of Ferelden and such would probably  be enough. 

Wrex is the perfect example of decisions that change the game. Wrex was beautifully done.

Dave of Canada wrote...

My very first playthrough:
Sided with Templars (Irving died due to me not knowing how to use the Lithany)
Isolde sacrificed for Connor.
Harrowmont as King.
Werewolves freed from the curse.
Leliana romance.
Anora / Alistair on the throne.
Dark Ritual.
Boon: Serving the crown.

My second more understanding of the game playthrough:
Sided with Mages.
Connor saved with mages.
Bhelen is king.
Werewolves freed from the curse.
Leliana romance.
Anora / Alistair on the throne.
Ultimate Sacrifice.

My third playthrough that deviated only at two points from the second one:
Anora on the throne.
Loghain was recruited.
Loghain sacrificed.
Boon: Serving the crown.

My fourth "pseudo-canon" playthrough:
Sided with Mages.
Connor saved with mages.
Bhelen is king.
Werewolves freed from the curse.
Morrigan romance.
Anora / Hardened Alistair on the throne.
Dark Ritual.
Boon: Teryn of Gwaren.

A deviation of the fourth "canon" playthrough:
Loghain was recruited.
Anora / Hardened Alistair on the throne.
Dark Ritual.
Boon: Teryn of Gwaren.

Here's mine:

Same for everyone
Werewolves saved
Mages saved
Shianna and Layla are the elf leaders
Anvil destroyed
Urn Pilgrimage
Redcliffe saved
Cullen saved, goes crazy

Shadow
Queen w/ Alistair
Connor saved
Alistair romance
Harrowmount is king
Alistair mounted Morrigan
Loghain killed
Sten went back home

Starter
Alistair is king
Circle of Magi disbanded
Connor saved
Leiliana romance
Bhelen is king
Alistair mounted Morrigan
Loghain killed

Wozdkowksi
Anora is queen
Circle of Magi disbanded
Connor disappears
Bhelen is king
Morrigan romance
Baby's Daddy
Loghain joins the Wardens
DRUNK ALISTAIR LOL

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 01 septembre 2010 - 07:57 .

[Merced256]

ProudNegro wrote...

I dont wanna see my Bromance like that

but then we can help him recover and fistbump afterward

[Reaverwind]

Dave of Canada wrote...

My very first playthrough:
Sided with Templars (Irving died due to me not knowing how to use the Lithany)
Isolde sacrificed for Connor.
Harrowmont as King.
Werewolves freed from the curse.
Leliana romance.
Anora / Alistair on the throne.
Dark Ritual.
Boon: Serving the crown.

Interesting. Mine was (Dalish origin):

Sided with Templars (due to rare bug resulting in no Litany)
Killed Connor
Bhelen as king
Werewolves wiped out
Alistair romance
Anora on throne
Alistair sacrifices self
No boon

[Bryy_Miller]

Reaverwind wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

My very first playthrough:
Sided with Templars (Irving died due to me not knowing how to use the Lithany)
Isolde sacrificed for Connor.
Harrowmont as King.
Werewolves freed from the curse.
Leliana romance.
Anora / Alistair on the throne.
Dark Ritual.
Boon: Serving the crown.

Interesting. Mine was (Dalish origin):

Sided with Templars (due to rare bug resulting in no Litany)
Killed Connor
Bhelen as king
Werewolves wiped out
Alistair romance
Anora on throne
Alistair sacrifices self
No boon

I hear there's an orphanage that needs burning. Sounds right up your alley. :happy:

[MKDAWUSS]

If we get to see drunk Alistair, will we also see non-drunk non-king Alistair as well?