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[RavenousBear]

I did it once and it felt like I lost the game. What made it worse was my character was a CE and instead of a ceremony in Denerim (the place the character grew up which would make the sacrifice more dramatic I guess), it was taken place in Redclife. Seriously, what is so special about Redcliffe anyway besides being Arl Eamon's domain?



I deleted that character immediately after the epilogue. That ending itself was rather dull in my opinion and felt like the world just moved on like my character never existed.

[Sarah1281]

Lumikki wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

 If you choose to make your US meaningless by ignoring it in Awakening that's hardly the same as saying the PC can't die.

Maybe, but killing PC and PC's life having zero affect to world in Awekening, is same as PC never even exist. If the choises would be there and you just play new PC. Then old PC's life did matter.

But the only acknowledgement you get anyway is Alistiar/Anora greeting you (and if they're married Alistair does it) and Harrowmont or Bhelen being referred to by name instead of just 'the King'.

[Monica21]

I did it once for the achievement and to see the ending, but I thought it was overrated. I don't like it when my character dies at the end, although that might just be residual trauma from NWN2.

[Corker]

I've done each ending once; DR is my least favorite.  I trust Morrigan, but I don't trust Ancient (Pride?) Demon Abomination Flemeth.  Whose plan it is.  Yeahno.

I flip-flop between my WC ending and my US ending being my canon.  Even if the cost of the US was two lives to stop the Archdemon and end the Blight (mine and, less literally, LI Zevran's), it's still pretty cheap compared to the many who fell before that point, and who would have fallen after.

[TJPags]

Only reason I can see to do it is for the achievement.



I mean, you're job is to end the blight - the DR lets you do that, AND live. I'm practical - can't see letting myself -or even Alistair, though I don't usually like him - die when there's an alternative.

[Giggles_Manically]

I did it on my first run and was awed by how I felt, mainly since it felt like a kick in the gut.

Depending on my PC its either DR (Least fave) or Loghain Redeemer.



Fun, but I dont like losing a PC I worked on for so many hours.

[Zjarcal]

Loghain Redeemer is so good that it almost makes me consider turning down the DR. But in the end my character reasons that even if Loghain is willing to make the sacrifice, she can't be certain that he'll make it all the way to the end.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 02 septembre 2010 - 02:35 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Well I dont trust people that much and the thought of turning an OG to someone who says dont follow me, and I dont trust you isint my idea of safe.



Besides Simon T just rocks in the end.

[Zjarcal]

The way my characters (and myself I guess) think, even if the OGB turns out to be a bad thing, at least they'll be alive to deal with it.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 02 septembre 2010 - 02:40 .

[Elizabeth]

I sacrificed Alistair and I was heartbroken I didn't like it and even though I don't trust Morrigan I would rather do the ritual than to be sad, your friend Bethany

[mousestalker]

My very first playthrough I rejected the DR and went to the top with Alistair. When I didn't find an option to let me take the final blow I was heart broken. The game got to me that much. The next play through I spared Loghain and took the final blow myself. Loghain's reaction was priceless.

[wickedgoodreed]

Corker wrote...
I've done each ending once; DR is my least favorite. I trust Morrigan, but I don't trust Ancient (Pride?) Demon Abomination Flemeth. Whose plan it is. Yeahno.

One of the bigger questions I had about the dark ritual was why Morrigan continued with Flemeth's plan after she already convinced the Warden that her mother had to die. You trust her enough that you kill her own mother to protect her, and then she asks you to carry out her mother's original plan regarding the old god baby without really giving a satisfying explanation as to what the ultimate plan actually is or why she suddenly trusts her mother's ritual...We're talking about the same mother you just had me "kill" right? The mother that you told me you were "such a fool" for trusting? This is a big reason why most of the time I have trouble going along with the DR. Maybe the Witch Hunt DLC will clear this up for me, but I feel like I'm missing something. Until then, WC it is!

Modifié par wickedgoodreed, 02 septembre 2010 - 03:22 .

[TJPags]

wickedgoodreed wrote...

Corker wrote...
I've done each ending once; DR is my least favorite. I trust Morrigan, but I don't trust Ancient (Pride?) Demon Abomination Flemeth. Whose plan it is. Yeahno.

One of the bigger questions I had about the dark ritual was why Morrigan continued with Flemeth's plan after she already convinced the Warden that her mother had to die. You trust her enough that you kill her own mother to protect her, and then she asks you to carry out her mother's original plan regarding the old god baby without really giving a satisfying explanation as to what the ultimate plan actually is or why she suddenly trusts her mother's ritual...We're talking about the same mother you just had me "kill" right? The mother that you told me you were "such a fool" for trusting? This is a big reason why most of the time I have trouble going along with the DR. Maybe the Witch Hunt DLC will clear this up for me, but I feel like I'm missing something. Until then, WC it is!

Well, she does indicate that she has her own reasons for doing it, rather than her mothers.  It's that the ritual works, that's what she trusts.  She implies that Flemeth had less than pleasant plans and reasons . . .and also says hers are to simply bring an old god back into the world.

Works for me.

[Zjarcal]

wickedgoodreed wrote...

Corker wrote...
I've done each ending once; DR is my least favorite. I trust Morrigan, but I don't trust Ancient (Pride?) Demon Abomination Flemeth. Whose plan it is. Yeahno.

One of the bigger questions I had about the dark ritual was why Morrigan continued with Flemeth's plan after she already convinced the Warden that her mother had to die. You trust her enough that you kill her own mother to protect her, and then she asks you to carry out her mother's original plan regarding the old god baby without really giving a satisfying explanation as to what the ultimate plan actually is or why she suddenly trusts her mother's ritual...We're talking about the same mother you just had me "kill" right? The mother that you told me you were "such a fool" for trusting? This is a big reason why most of the time I have trouble going along with the DR. Maybe the Witch Hunt DLC will clear this up for me, but I feel like I'm missing something. Until then, WC it is!

I think it's simple enough. If the OGB is a great source of power, why not go ahead with the ritual and keep it herself?

Besides, as we all know, Flemeth isn't really dead. So Morrigan might as well take the OGB herself before Flemeth somehow gets ahold of it.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 02 septembre 2010 - 03:26 .

[Giggles_Manically]

I dont do the DR for many reasons but the main one is:

If someone says I dont trust you, and then you need to trust me in the same breath, than I cant.

Trust goes two ways, and I wont do something on blind faith.

[Monica21]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I dont do the DR for many reasons but the main one is:
If someone says I dont trust you, and then you need to trust me in the same breath, than I cant.
Trust goes two ways, and I wont do something on blind faith.

When does Morrigan say she doesn't trust you?

The first time I agreed to do it I remembered her conversation with me after killing Flemeth. She basically apologizes in advance for what she knows she's going to end up asking of you. I think that she does something she thinks she has to do, and honestly regrets it and misses your friendship. (Can't speak for the male romance because I haven't played a male character.)

[Zjarcal]

Ok, for the record, when does Morrigan say the words, "I don't trust you"?



I remember her telling me, "I do not wish to tell you" when being asked for more info. Is that what you're referring to?

[Giggles_Manically]

More so she says I wont tell you/Dont ever follow me, I take as I dont trust you.

[Zjarcal]

Perhaps.



Or maybe it's, "for your own good, it's better that you not know why I am doing this".



Anyone can interpret it however they want of course.

[Monica21]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

More so she says I wont tell you/Dont ever follow me, I take as I dont trust you.

Interesting. I've always seen as something she needs to keep to herself because, let's face it, she's not really one to open up, she's always been a bit apart from the world, and your interaction with her is very unusual. I take it as something more like, this is something I need to do by myself.

[wickedgoodreed]

Zjarcal wrote...

I think it's simple enough. If the OGB is a great source of power, why not go ahead with the ritual and keep it herself?



Besides, as we all know, Flemeth isn't really dead. So Morrigan might as well take the OGB herself before Flemeth somehow gets ahold of it.

Well, she obviously needs a warden in order to get the OGB, so Flemeth can't really get ahold of it anymore if you take her out of commission (temporarily) and go on to destroy the archdemon. Even if I trust Morrigan, at that point I really don't see any justification for handing her the power of a god whether her reasons are somehow different from Flemeth's or not. Especially since she doesn't seem to trust you enough to be open about it. Besides, from the cryptic conversation you can have with Flemeth before you "kill" her, there's a strong possibility that giving it to Morrigan was part of Flemeth's plans all along or that at the very least that she has contingencies for that. In giving it to Morrigan you create more of a risk that Flemeth would be able to take it from her later on than in not doing so. So ultimately, I'm still left wondering why Morrigan thinks it's a good idea to go along with her mother's original plan.

[jpdipity]

My female Dalish elf in love with Alistair did not trust Morrigan. Morrigan and her secretive nature simply fueled my Dalish elf's distrust. She put Alistair on the throne and then sacrificed herself. I was quite pleased with the parallels that storyline made between Maric and Alistair. It was one of my favorite endings. I doubt I will do another playthrough with the US ending. I don't really see a reason why any of my other characters would choose that route.



All my other playthroughs have/will take advantage of the DR. Loghain will never survive the landsmeet in any of my games and Anora will never rule alone. My male noble who rules with Anora is in love with Morrigan; so, he opted for the DR - he couldn't resist - his tent twas cold.

[CalJones]

Caak7i wrote...

I did it once and it felt like I lost the game. What made it worse was my character was a CE and instead of a ceremony in Denerim (the place the character grew up which would make the sacrifice more dramatic I guess), it was taken place in Redclife. Seriously, what is so special about Redcliffe anyway besides being Arl Eamon's domain?

I deleted that character immediately after the epilogue. That ending itself was rather dull in my opinion and felt like the world just moved on like my character never existed.

I was more annoyed that my Warden's body got carted off to Weisshaupt. She just died saving her homeland - she wanted to be laid to rest (cremated, whatever) there, not thousands of miles away. Ugh.

So yes, only done it once. The Loghain redeemer ending is still my favourite, for its emotional impact (yes yes I know not everyone is a fan) so that's the one I most often go with.

[ashwind]

LOL - Wish I could tell Morrigan that I was actually thinking of asking Aliaster/Loghain to do the killing blow until I spoke to her. After talking to her, I am looking forward to die

When romancing Morrigan, she tells me:
I do not seek to control you, if our path are the same then so be it. It not, so be it.

I thought: Kewl!

Then when she offer the DR,

Warden: Will I see you again?
Morrigan: No.
Warden: Will I see the child?
Morrigan: No.
Warden: Will you tell me more?
Morrigan: I do not wish to tell you. So will you do it?
Warden: Umm.. No.
Morrigan went berserk: Then you are a fool! You will throw your life away blah blah !#$^$%&$%%^$%$
Warden: :O:O wha..? But... you said you will not control me or force me !??
Morrigan: I am a female and I am entitled to hypocrisy! 
Warden: :O:O 

Modifié par ashwind, 02 septembre 2010 - 10:00 .