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lair of the shadowbroker plot? (spoilers)


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The IM e-mail might be different depending on what you did with the base. He might not like you, but I'm guessing IM doesn't like the Shadow Broker either.

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Tim knows that Shepard will help Liara take down the Shadow Broker. Tim doesn't like the Shadowbroker.So Tim sends Shepard Data on how to find the Shadowbroker. Shepard will turn the Shadow Broker into a fine snortable Powder and TIM has one enemy less to worry about.

I Figure TIM somehow managed to get some Bugs into the Shadowbrokers Homebase, with which TIM will be able to see the current state of the Normandy, just as an added Bonus.



So i can't see why Cerberus wouldn't provide Shadowbroker intel to Shepard.

If TIM stays true to his Goals, he would provide Ressources and Information for shepard in ME3 to help fight the Reapers, even if Shepard may use just that to exterminate Cerberus.

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You do know that the ultimate goal of Cerberus is galactic dominance, right? By using ANY MEANS NECESSARY. And only Cerberus will define what "necessary" is. This includes iron-gripping all known galactic races, including all human. Picture a total dictator using Reaper tech to dominate all sensient life.

Of course, Shep will have none of this bullcrap.

Modifié par cihimi, 02 septembre 2010 - 09:34 .


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will liara become part of the team or once the DLC is over is it all go back to her being on illium? I want for part of my team. i hope she will become a team member

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Lvl20DM wrote...

The IM e-mail might be different depending on what you did with the base. He might not like you, but I'm guessing IM doesn't like the Shadow Broker either.

There will be no email from Cerberus. Gaemspot talked about the first two levels and how the DLC starts, Liara gives you the email to come to her home.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

... Gaemspot talked about the first two levels and how the DLC starts, Liara gives you the email to come to her home.


Link, please?

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Thompson family wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

... Gaemspot talked about the first two levels and how the DLC starts, Liara gives you the email to come to her home.


Link, please?


www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect2lairoftheshadowbroker/news.html

Modifié par kraidy1117, 04 septembre 2010 - 07:00 .


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Thanks. I couldn't understand why it didn't show up on my Gamespot updates. Then I realized it's because the update was only posted for the Xbox 360 version

Also, while the preview says it contains "minor" spoilers, I consider some of the spoilers to be quite serious. Readers, be warned..

Modifié par Thompson family, 04 septembre 2010 - 07:08 .


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Thompson family wrote...

Thanks. I couldn't understand why it didn't show up on my Gamespot updates. Then I realized it's because the update was only posted for the Xbox 360 version

Also, while the preview says it contains "minor" spoilers, I consider some of the spoilers to be quite serious. Readers, be warned..

Ya, but it at least comfirms that the Cerberus is not involved :wizard:

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kraidy1117 wrote...
Ya, but it at least comfirms that the Cerberus is not involved :wizard:


Which is strange, since according the trailer, they are involved.

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didymos1120 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
Ya, but it at least comfirms that the Cerberus is not involved :wizard:


Which is strange, since according the trailer, they are involved.

You know what I thought. This could be the diffrence. If you do the DLC before the usicide mission, you get the data from Cerberus, however if you do it after the suicide mission, Liara finds alot of this info on her own and she emails you. This would pleese alot of people.

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Sounds reasonable, especially with the sound snippets for doing the Illium terminal scanning missions after LotSB, but I wonder how they have gone about it, without causing tons of extra work for themselves... Maybe the Cerberus info is just an optional way to the unfortunate informant: give it to her (..to trigger her email, upon return to the Normandy), or wait and she'll find out about him on her own, following endgame-- that way the rest should need little, if any, modification...



Here's hoping there's a way to talk oneself out of fighting Vasir, by the way - even Saren was redeemable... :7

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If the Shadow Broker is a commodity that Cerberus could do with out, I don’t see why TIM wouldn’t help you out, he wouldn't do it out of the goodness of his heart though

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Julie Shepard wrote...

If the Shadow Broker is a commodity that Cerberus could do with out, I don’t see why TIM wouldn’t help you out, he wouldn't do it out of the goodness of his heart though

As an organization that relies on secrecy, I would imagine that Cerberus would view anyone whose job is selling secrets as dangerous. We know for a fact that the Shadow Broker has sold information about Cerberus, that's where Admiral Kahoku got his information in ME1, and we know the Shadow Broker tried to get more information directly from Commander Shepard. On top of that, the Shadow Broker worked (in?)directly against Cerberus when trying to recover Shepard's body, so... yeah. I'm pretty sure Cerberus wants the Shadow Broker out of the picture for good.

I doubt the Illusive Man would think twice about giving information about the Shadow Broker to Commander Shepard, regardless of the end of ME2. If nothing else, it gives the Illusive Man another way to remind Shepard that he/she still needs Cerberus (regardless of anyone's personal feelings about Cerberus, that's how I think TIM would view it).

Modifié par Kasen13, 04 septembre 2010 - 11:47 .


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- LotSB is "story bridging DLC".
- LotSB is NOT set after the suicide mission.

I've been saying this for months and no one believed me. It was clear that most people here couldn't comprehend how both concepts could be simultaneously true. My question is: why haven't any heads exploded yet?

To answer the OP, just like every other piece of concurrent content, it will make less sense if you do it after the SM. Post-SM does not work as a story setting.

Modifié par SmokePants, 04 septembre 2010 - 11:45 .


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Looks like Shepard will have the opportunity to off another SpecTRe. I can see the headlines now...(dreamy harp music)......Commander Shepard, the SpecTRe the kills........SpecTRes.

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SmokePants wrote...

- LotSB is "story bridging DLC".
- LotSB is NOT set after the suicide mission.

I've been saying this for months and no one believed me. It was clear that most people here couldn't comprehend how both concepts could be simultaneously true. My question is: why haven't any heads exploded yet?

To answer the OP, just like every other piece of concurrent content, it will make less sense if you do it after the SM. Post-SM does not work as a story setting.


Directly contradicted in this post by Chris Priestly social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/129/index/4638855%26lf%3D8#4642069 here.

"Like many of our missions, you can do the Shadowbroker DLC before or
after the suicide mission. However, because we understood that most
players would be coming to this after the suicide mission, [b]we weighted
the dialog much more heavily toward the assumption that the player had
already completed it."


EDIT: Clarification

Modifié par A.N.A.N, 04 septembre 2010 - 11:15 .


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SmokePants wrote...

- LotSB is "story bridging DLC".
- LotSB is NOT set after the suicide mission.

I've been saying this for months and no one believed me. It was clear that most people here couldn't comprehend how both concepts could be simultaneously true. My question is: why haven't any heads exploded yet?

To answer the OP, just like every other piece of concurrent content, it will make less sense if you do it after the SM. Post-SM does not work as a story setting.


While it can be played preSM, the writers said it was more oriented to play after SM.
If played preSM let´s hope for a decent excuse to keep Liara away this time.

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A.N.A.N wrote...
Directly contradicted by Casey Hudson social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/129/index/4638855%26lf%3D8#4642069 here.


Whatever gave you the idea that Casey Hudson said that?  For one, the author of the post is Chris Priestly. For two, it  says the writers were asked and gives no names.

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Prince of Kemet wrote...
Looks like Shepard will have the opportunity to off another SpecTRe. I can see the headlines now...(dreamy harp music)......Commander Shepard, the SpecTRe the kills........SpecTRes.


I really think one rogue spectre has been a great story... I hope the asari spectre is not also rogue...

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JohnnyBeGood2 wrote...

Prince of Kemet wrote...
Looks like Shepard will have the opportunity to off another SpecTRe. I can see the headlines now...(dreamy harp music)......Commander Shepard, the SpecTRe the kills........SpecTRes.


I really think one rogue spectre has been a great story... I hope the asari spectre is not also rogue...



I stayed out in the Terminus system as per the Councils request, if they start sending pissant spectres and they get in the way then its too bad if they get sent back to council space in a body bag.

Modifié par m14567, 04 septembre 2010 - 04:12 .


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m14567 wrote...

JohnnyBeGood2 wrote...

Prince of Kemet wrote...
Looks like Shepard will have the opportunity to off another SpecTRe. I can see the headlines now...(dreamy harp music)......Commander Shepard, the SpecTRe the kills........SpecTRes.


I really think one rogue spectre has been a great story... I hope the asari spectre is not also rogue...



I stayed out in the Terminus system as per the Councils request, if they start sending pissant spectres and they get in the way then its too bad if they get sent back to council space in a body bag.

Illium has similar status to Noveria I think, so it follows some Citadel rules.

SB may have something on the Specter or on the council. And maybe we don´t kill the other Specter. Though if she is going for the kill I hope I can return the favor.

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Nerevar-as wrote...

m14567 wrote...

JohnnyBeGood2 wrote...

Prince of Kemet wrote...
Looks like Shepard will have the opportunity to off another SpecTRe. I can see the headlines now...(dreamy harp music)......Commander Shepard, the SpecTRe the kills........SpecTRes.


I really think one rogue spectre has been a great story... I hope the asari spectre is not also rogue...



I stayed out in the Terminus system as per the Councils request, if they start sending pissant spectres and they get in the way then its too bad if they get sent back to council space in a body bag.

Illium has similar status to Noveria I think, so it follows some Citadel rules.

SB may have something on the Specter or on the council. And maybe we don´t kill the other Specter. Though if she is going for the kill I hope I can return the favor.


Ok, my bad, I thought Illium was in the terminus system :whistle:

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here is second thought. Shadow broker is a big competitor to Illusive man as information broker. since he acquired, and revive to the life fortunately, he wants Shepard to know how he was recovered, who shadow broker is. it is very important to be left for Shepard real identity, and looking forward to ME 3. there is still a question whether Liara will join the team or not. but after shadow broker, she has no more reason to remain in Illium to help who. I guess that she will have to be with Shepard. it's a right decision for her.

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archurban wrote...

here is second thought. Shadow broker is a big competitor to Illusive man as information broker.


TIM isn't an info broker the way the SB is, but in Redemption TIM actually does say that in "some ways"  the SB is his "opposite number in the information-gathering business[.]"  Still TIM doesn't typically sell info, so their competition isn't on that level.