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[Meltemph]

Bioware seems to always attract the drama queens.... Their old forums were just as filled with cry's of fear/betrayal/loss/ect, it is quite disturbing tbqh.

[Dave of Canada]

Meltemph wrote...

Bioware seems to always attract the drama queens.... Their old forums were just as filled with cry's of fear/betrayal/loss/ect, it is quite disturbing tbqh.

I said I was fearful of it, I wasn't yelling that the sky was falling. Am I not allowed to have fears now? >.>

[Anarya]

Meltemph wrote...

Bioware seems to always attract the drama queens.... Their old forums were just as filled with cry's of fear/betrayal/loss/ect, it is quite disturbing tbqh.

This is in no way limited to Bioware. It's every game developer's forums I've ever seen. Actually it's not as bad here as the places I've frequented before.

[Hollingdale]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Hollingdale wrote...

It was an extremely bad middle that had nothing to do with the main story.  The actual main story was linear anyway.

Using the treaties to recruit allies to fight the Blight while dealing with Loghain's interventions has nothing to do with the main story? >.>

Of course it has ''to do'' with the story, but how does the main story progress when you collect theese treaties? The truth is it doesn't. It stopped at Lothering and picked up again once you had all the treaties.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

Bioware seems to always attract the drama queens.... Their old forums were just as filled with cry's of fear/betrayal/loss/ect, it is quite disturbing tbqh.

I said I was fearful of it, I wasn't yelling that the sky was falling. Am I not allowed to have fears now? >.>

Fear makes you weak!

EMBRACE THE DARK SIDE

[Onyx Jaguar]

Anarya wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

Bioware seems to always attract the drama queens.... Their old forums were just as filled with cry's of fear/betrayal/loss/ect, it is quite disturbing tbqh.

This is in no way limited to Bioware. It's every game developer's forums I've ever seen. Actually it's not as bad here as the places I've frequented before.

The Nintendo forums back int he day were better.  At least those guys seemed to like the games

[Meltemph]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

Bioware seems to always attract the drama queens.... Their old forums were just as filled with cry's of fear/betrayal/loss/ect, it is quite disturbing tbqh.

I said I was fearful of it, I wasn't yelling that the sky was falling. Am I not allowed to have fears now? >.>

To be honest, I really wasn't specifying to you, I mean the overall tone of the forums in general.  

This is in no way limited to Bioware. It's every game developer's forums I've ever seen. Actually it's not as bad here as the places I've frequented before. 

About the only forums where I see more, up-in-arms or fearful topics, is either Starwars, Lord of the Rings, or MMO forums.  These forums are tied for the D&D forums imo, and I've been a lurker on a lot of forums for a lot of years.  Sure this is imo, but I don't really ever see more "over reaction" and drama" then only handful of other places.

[Hollingdale]

Well CRPG's are a bit of a dying genre so Bioware fans do have a reason to mourn, it's not like they can just go and pick up some other developers game and get a similar experience.

[Quinnzel]

Ser Linear McPlotline and me dont get on well anymore. I ended up doing an important sidequest once before some major plot details were revealed and he got all pissy. There was a fight, beards were pulled, Ale wasn't quaffed in proper fashion...very messy indeed.

[Hollingdale]

Youre just mad because Ser Linear McPlotline whooped your sorry ass, learn accept defeat and QQ less ; )

[Meltemph]

Well CRPG's are a bit of a dying genre so Bioware fans do have a reason to mourn, it's not like they can just go and pick up some other developers game and get a similar experience.

All hobbies evolve, it is not like CRPG's are dying, only changing. Game companies more and more are mixing genre's together and it is only going to happen more and more. W/O any progress/change/evolution in games they become old stale and predictable, specially considering how hard it is to do something different.

I can understand not liking certain changes, but the fear, resentfulness, and absolute refusal to change with the times, does indeed get old, imo. It is great that so many people want their view of the game to remain the same, but people need to remember there are a lot more people who like a more fresh approach to things.

The idea that the fundamental designs of the game must hinge on  the said individual, to me, is just ridiculousness.

Modifié par Meltemph, 02 septembre 2010 - 01:15 .

[addiction21]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

Bioware seems to always attract the drama queens.... Their old forums were just as filled with cry's of fear/betrayal/loss/ect, it is quite disturbing tbqh.

I said I was fearful of it, I wasn't yelling that the sky was falling. Am I not allowed to have fears now? >.>

You can have fears only if you provide me with some waffles.

There are fears and concerns and then there are the sky is falling, BioWare raped my dog and killed my mother. You are the former.

P.S.
I think that was the devs "nice way" of saying we cant elaborate now. I have caught flakk for this before but BioWare is one of the few  gamemakers out there that have earned my faith but I am that wait and see type of person when it comes to that. They have always provided me with a great gaming experiance. Sure there are those things I dont like and I could harp on them till the end of time but it is the overall package.

What I imagine would be done. Lets use your example of the town in danger. If it is a sidequest and you push the central quest chain to the next "era" then it wont be there. Cheesy and the easy way to do it. It could also turn out that if you have that quest and you fail to run to the rescue when you move the main campaign to a further point of time it might be a ruined town and you get some hate for that, or even some different quests that would not have been accesible if you saved it as soon as you could.

[Anathemic]

Hollingdale wrote...

Well CRPG's are a bit of a dying genre so Bioware fans do have a reason to mourn, it's not like they can just go and pick up some other developers game and get a similar experience.

Well the Witcher looks promising (I would say Witcher 2 even more so than DA2, just imo)

[Hollingdale]

Yeah, it's understandable to mourn, but pointless to cry.

[Dr. wonderful]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

Bioware seems to always attract the drama queens.... Their old forums were just as filled with cry's of fear/betrayal/loss/ect, it is quite disturbing tbqh.

I said I was fearful of it, I wasn't yelling that the sky was falling. Am I not allowed to have fears now? >.>

Fear makes you weak!

EMBRACE THE DARK SIDE

Fear lead to anger, anger lead to hate, hate lead to sorrow, sorrow lead to Emo music..Emo music lead to...

What was the topic again?

[Sable Rhapsody]

Hollingdale wrote...

You miss my point, chapters come in a chronological order hence the story can progress in a logical fashion whereas in the case of the 4 archs, because they may be done in any order, the story they contain must make sense regardless of which order it is done in and because of this their only connection to the main story is some kind of item which you need to obtain. The rest of their story typically consists of pleasing the local sovereign or populace by doing mundane frustrating tasks for them knowing full and well that the world faces impending doom and you are wasting your time doing mundane tasks.

Ah, ok.  Gotcha.  I still wouldn't say they're "mundane tasks"; they are essential to obtain.  But you're right in that the Star Maps, treaties, Jedi Masters, etc. amount to glorified McGuffin quests.  There's nothing inherently WRONG with that, but it is a) very recognizable and a bit overdone.

Of course, the chaptered sort of style lends itself to a rather more linear game progression, which is sure to upset some folks.  Feh.

[Meltemph]

It is very puzzling how many people on this site in particular, are perfectly fine with the fundamental changes Witcher is doing(the supposed fans anywho), yet DA2, the mention of any changes is blasphemy and must be killed with fire.

[Lord_Valandil]

Meltemph wrote...

It is very puzzling how many people on this site in particular, are perfectly fine with the fundamental changes Witcher is doing(the supposed fans anywho), yet DA2, the mention of any changes is blasphemy and must be killed with fire.

I find it quite amusing. If there were boobs in DA2, there would be less complaints.

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 02 septembre 2010 - 01:21 .

[Meltemph]

I find it quite amusing. If there were boobs in DA2, there would be less complaints.

Ha! You are probably more right, then I would think.

[Dave of Canada]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

It is very puzzling how many people on this site in particular, are perfectly fine with the fundamental changes Witcher is doing(the supposed fans anywho), yet DA2, the mention of any changes is blasphemy and must be killed with fire.

I find it quite amusing. If there were boobs in DA2, there would be less complaints.

*points at the boob threads*

No.

[Dr. wonderful]

Meltemph wrote...

It is very puzzling how many people on this site in particular, are perfectly fine with the fundamental changes Witcher is doing(the supposed fans anywho), yet DA2, the mention of any changes is blasphemy and must be killed with fire.

I like to call it "Do what I say, not as I do."

[Lord_Valandil]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

It is very puzzling how many people on this site in particular, are perfectly fine with the fundamental changes Witcher is doing(the supposed fans anywho), yet DA2, the mention of any changes is blasphemy and must be killed with fire.

I find it quite amusing. If there were boobs in DA2, there would be less complaints.

*points at the boob threads*

No.

Sigh, you're right.
I guess people will always find different ways to complain.

[Meltemph]

 

*points at the boob threads*
No.

I dunno, if they were naked, probably would be less complaints?

Modifié par Meltemph, 02 septembre 2010 - 01:30 .

[Lord_Valandil]

Meltemph wrote...

 

*points at the boob threads*
No.

I dunno, if they were naked, probably would be less compalints. 

*Nods*
Almost forgot about that.