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[Dave of Canada]

Knight Templar wrote...

I strive to be better than those I fight.

I see.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 02 septembre 2010 - 08:06 .

[Dave of Canada]

filaminstrel wrote...

I'd have liked to get an option to ask him if he would have shown mercy. Yes? He dies. No? He lives.

He was sent to kill Leliana, though.

[Arrtis]

Well he would have not shown leliana any mercy lol.

[Arrtis]

filaminstrel wrote...

Oh, I thought we were talking about those schmucks in the tavern in Lothering.

They were sent to kill you though....

[Dave of Canada]

filaminstrel wrote...

Oh, I thought we were talking about those schmucks in the tavern in Lothering.

Those guys too were sent to kill you, as were almost everybody who you can offer to spare after beating them in a fight.

[Arrtis]

You even can tell leliana who asks you to spare them that they were sent to butcher you....

[Fishy]

Arrtis wrote...

Knight Templar wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...


I never understand the logic for "good" here. Why let the guy who tried to kill you leave? Do you think he'd have the same mercy on you?

I strive to be better than those I fight.

What is better?
Letting someone live that would have otherwise have killed you?
Thats Alistair talk...

He did not kill me.I'm showing mercy because i'm stronger than him .
mentaly and physically.

Forgivemess it's so hard these day.Easier to say **** ... than okay i understand you.

Modifié par Suprez30, 02 septembre 2010 - 08:13 .

[Knight Templar_]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Knight Templar wrote...

I strive to be better than those I fight.

I see.

Unless we're talking about Arl Howe that's more or less true.

[Dave of Canada]

Knight Templar wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Knight Templar wrote...

I strive to be better than those I fight.

I see.

Unless we're talking about Arl Howe that's more or less true.

I think everybody who played Cousland follows that trope.

[Arrtis]

When did mercy make you strong?

If you CAN INDEED show mercy....then it becomes a choice...

I can see no reason for it unless you wanted to show off you can be merciful....

After all it is logical thinking that someone that is trying to kill you may try again and succeed.

I tried to recruit that bandit with mercy...he sort of said he would rather die.

[upsettingshorts]

During his civil war, Julius Caesar often granted mercy as a way of emasculating defeated enemies. Dragon Age didn't really have any options to do that.   But only truly powerful men can play God like that.

You can accept those soldiers' surrender in the tavern or not. This is more or less a strictly ethics vs. expediency decision.

I'd argue there's almost no obvious reason for not killing Zevran apart from metagaming, knowing that he's a recruitable, romancable companion. As an assassin who just failed to eliminate you, just finish him. But that's just me.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 02 septembre 2010 - 08:17 .

[Knight Templar_]

Arrtis wrote...

When did mercy make you strong?
If you CAN INDEED show mercy....then it becomes a choice...
I can see no reason for it unless you wanted to show off you can be merciful....
After all it is logical thinking that someone that is trying to kill you may try again and succeed.
I tried to recruit that bandit with mercy...he sort of said he would rather die.

It's easy to kill somebody who deserves it. We look we judge and we kill them, feel pretty good about it too. When we have every reason to kill somebody yet don't, that's real power.

[Dave of Canada]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I'd argue there's almost no obvious reason for not killing Zevran apart from metagaming, knowing that he's a recruitable, romancable companion. As an assassin who just failed to eliminate you, just finish him. But that's just me.

Sten and Zevran would be dead in a lot of my playthroughs if I didn't metagame those few decisions on most of my playthroughs.

[Arrtis]

Knight Templar wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

When did mercy make you strong?
If you CAN INDEED show mercy....then it becomes a choice...
I can see no reason for it unless you wanted to show off you can be merciful....
After all it is logical thinking that someone that is trying to kill you may try again and succeed.
I tried to recruit that bandit with mercy...he sort of said he would rather die.

It's easy to kill somebody who deserves it. We look we judge and we kill them, feel pretty good about it too. When we have every reason to kill somebody yet don't, that's real power.

THat makes 0 sense....
For some people its easy to judge and be merciful and have killing them be the hard part.....I suppose in this case killing them would make you strong?

[Dave of Canada]

Knight Templar wrote...

It's easy to kill somebody who deserves it. We look we judge and we kill them, feel pretty good about it too. When we have every reason to kill somebody yet don't, that's real power.

You can't have your honor and power when you're dead due to being too trusting.

[Pzykozis]

Dave of Canada wrote...
Killed Connor.
Sided with Templars.
Cured the Werewolves.
Bhelen as King.
Anvil saved.
Killed the Cultists, Ashes not defiled. Genetivi killed.
Loghain dead, Alistair on throne.
Dark Ritual.
Boon: Serving the crown.

Mages to heal connor; I didn't really like connor or Isolde, so whatever happened was of no real consequence to my mage, but there was a chance of redemption for jowan if I used him to go into the fade and save Connor and since Jowan was a mate albeit annoying, I tried to help him.

Sided with the mages, as a mage with libertarian leanings and having dabbled in blood magic and other illegal practices I figured it was about time I let the mages prove themselves even if they were afflicted / were blood mages themselves they can handle it themselves it certainly didn't seem like the Templars were doing a good job of policing them after all.

Killed the werewolves, I have a treaty compelling the Dalish and Zatherien is an epicly old and powerful mage who has knowledge of a civilisation a thousand years old perhaps he knows some strange magic that's really powerful, Plus the werewolves were overly aggressive the first time I met them so they had to die. Besides they weren't doing very well to show that their bestial nature was gone after ambushing and condemning the elves to the curse.

Bhelen as King, of course he's a strong leader Harrowmont is stuck in the old ways and too kind to steer a people through dark times.

Anvil destroyed, Branka was insane and annoyed me, so she died plus Caradin seemed like an alright guy too bad I couldn't keep the anvil regardless but meh If you can't recreate the technology it's probably not a good idea to utilise said technology as a basis for your advancement.

Cult dead, Ashes normal, Genitivi dead; Cult was insane, I might have sided with them but there was no real use in defiling the ashes which I could always come back to as a miracle cure for if I or any of mine needed such a thing. Genitivi dead to stop the spread of goodwill towards the Chantry, since my mage is a firm anti chantry guy.

Loghain alive, alistair on the throne, hardened alistair would make a good ruler, so there's no real question of that, but Loghain is alive simply because of Riordan, as a mage I don't really have much against Loghain other than the Ostagar thing, which was just a stupid plan anyway. Not cailin's fault but meh. Besides I still have some revenge on Loghain since he'll die sometime soon (because of the taint) it's just a long slow death filled with nightmares and torments, no easy way out for him.

Dark Ritual of course, my partner asks if you want to 'lay' with her and then I get to live? Why would I refuse.

Freed the Mages from the chantry in Ferelden, not sure if this will actually happen or whether there'll be an exalted march on Ferelden, but either way it weakens the Chantry's firm grasp on the world, plus it allows more freedom for the mages to practice perhaps less regulated magics.

Edit : Some of my reason's I say might come across as more calcuable evil, it's just too bad they're not really supported in the game. de-stabilisation of the chantry at every attempt is probably bad on the large scale for thedas, when viewed from a meta point of view, since the chantry hold the world together. Destroying the anvil and expecting the dwarves to survive just because they should survive or die out is similar but it'll benefit them in the long run.

I think the thing with Bioware / DA is that generally the options are mostly heroic, it's the players / character's intentions behind them that make them evil or good deeds. Having said that I wouldn't mind an actual choice that comes across as logical evil, unlike say stupid evil like siding with the werewolves and killing the elves.

Modifié par Pzykozis, 02 septembre 2010 - 08:28 .

[Knight Templar_]

Arrtis wrote...

Knight Templar wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

When did mercy make you strong?
If you CAN INDEED show mercy....then it becomes a choice...
I can see no reason for it unless you wanted to show off you can be merciful....
After all it is logical thinking that someone that is trying to kill you may try again and succeed.
I tried to recruit that bandit with mercy...he sort of said he would rather die.

It's easy to kill somebody who deserves it. We look we judge and we kill them, feel pretty good about it too. When we have every reason to kill somebody yet don't, that's real power.

THat makes 0 sense....
For some people its easy to judge and be merciful and have killing them be the hard part.....I suppose in this case killing them would make you strong?

Never watched Schindler's List did you?

[Fishy]

Arrtis wrote...

When did mercy make you strong?
If you CAN INDEED show mercy....then it becomes a choice...
I can see no reason for it unless you wanted to show off you can be merciful....
After all it is logical thinking that someone that is trying to kill you may try again and succeed.
I tried to recruit that bandit with mercy...he sort of said he would rather die.

No but killing a vilain CHANGE NOTHING.There's always someone to replace him .  But HE CAN CHANGE . Killing someone solve nothing , zero , niente,nada.It's not for *SHOW OFF* .

NICO Bellic after killing Darko

*I feel empty*

damn too much gta4 recently.

Modifié par Suprez30, 02 septembre 2010 - 08:32 .

[Dave of Canada]

Suprez30 wrote...

But HE CAN CHANGE

That's a pretty big "but".

[Arrtis]

For my first playthrough....

I saved the circle instead of annul.

Mages are pretty darn useful.More useful than warriors.

Cured the werewolves....

Why not?I need the dalish cured for my army.

Saved Connor

Because the third option was there.I saw no reason to kill anyone but the demon making zombies.

Went with harrowmount.

Orzammar does not need me to forcibly change things and bhelen sort of seemed power hungry...so that was bad as I did not know how far he would go.

Kept the Anvil...

Golems are quite useful and grants immortality to those who wish for it.

Saved redcliffe...

Need less zombies roaming around as if you leave them alone they only grow bigger and become a huge problem...

Sacred ashes defiled/dragon stayed alive/kill cultists...

Did not care at all about the ashes.Dragon is a dying breed and also I soloed that playthrough so I figured not worth the risk.Killed cultists because regardless of my reasonings they kept trying to kill me....I of course wanted power so I defiled the ashes....

Let the slaver in the Alienage go as he let me become more powerful.

Siege of denerim....said screw it to the generals in the town as killing the archdemon would end it.

Picked the DR as I sort of wanted to live....

Went to track down the women who had my godbaby.I rather raise such a baby to become another heir for the couslands.

[Fishy]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Suprez30 wrote...

But HE CAN CHANGE

That's a pretty big "but".

So what you kill him.What after?Rainbow?Joy?peace?food for the hungry?or someone that most likely will replace him?

[Merlin Dawnweaver]

Saved Connor - Can't pass up a chance to fight a 1 v 1 battle against a demon / learn blood magic
Sided with mages - Templars can go die in a fire
Lifted the curse - Didn't really care about either party
Bhelen as king - Harrowmont was senile.
Anvil Saved - Evil or not, We need giant mechas to win the war.
Cult betrayed, Ashes normal, Genitivi alive - My healbot will not have it any other way.
Siege of denerim - giant mecha beatdown. 
Loghain dies, Anora rules, Freed the circle - Hope Ferelden peasants enjoy their frog times. 

Modifié par Merlin Dawnweaver, 02 septembre 2010 - 08:39 .