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[Faz432]

To add the choice of having an Elf or Dwarf Hawke?

Is it not just changing the points of reference in the dialogue?

Modifié par Faz432, 02 septembre 2010 - 08:14 .

[Knight Templar_]

You'd need to record all the new dialog for one.

[Behindyounow]

Elves and Dwarves are American. Humans are British. You'd need new VAs.

[thatguy212]

it would change hawke's family, and since bethany is a mage she can't be a dwarf, and since elves are treated like second class citizens it would be unlikely that hawke would be able to get a position of power (champion of kirkwall)

[Arrtis]

Nah have all the same voice for all races.
You can say they lived in lothering their entire lives and adopted their accent.

Modifié par Arrtis, 02 septembre 2010 - 08:16 .

[Merced256]

Because you saw lots of dwarves in lothering.. oh and elves other than one singular family! Oh and nevermind that your family would probably have to change in race as well to suit your story. Unless of course you want to go all NWN2, but wait that wouldn't work because this time you actually have a family.

[Anarya]

It adds a lot of extra VO work and therefore would cost a lot of extra money. Especially if you wanted each race to have different voice actors.

[Anarya]

Arrtis wrote...

Nah have all the same voice for all races.
You can say they lived in lothering their entire lives and adopted their accent.

Well if they had the same voices it might not be too hard. However, what if Hawke being human is somehow important to the story? It seems like there's been hints dropped to that effect. But we'll see.

[AntiChri5]

Choices and story based games arent the best of friends.



There is a balance to found, this time there are far less opening choices. The later choices remain to be seen.

[Arrtis]

Anarya wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

Nah have all the same voice for all races.
You can say they lived in lothering their entire lives and adopted their accent.

Well if they had the same voices it might not be too hard. However, what if Hawke being human is somehow important to the story? It seems like there's been hints dropped to that effect. But we'll see.

That is probably it.
They would have to change everything in a really poor way.
And even then we would expect people to notice we were a dwarf/elf/human also.

[Faz432]

Ok maybe what I said isn't as obvious to other people.

When I say 'Is it not just changing the points of reference in the dialogue?'

I mean instead of 'Hawke the human and his/her family who fled the blight from lothering'

it becomes 'Hawke the Elf and his/her family who fled the blight from Wending woods/the anlienage'

or

'Hawke the Surface Dwarf and his/her family who fled the blight from *________*'

and as for Bethany being a mage and that conflicting with being a Dwarf is it that difficult to change her class?

Also as for the 'champion of kirkwall' being a lowly Elf, wouldn't that make it even more spectacular?

Modifié par Faz432, 02 septembre 2010 - 08:26 .

[upsettingshorts]

I imagine if it was simple they'd probably do it. The fact that they not only aren't but announced it so early leads me to believe that Hawke's humanity is either integral to the story, or having multiracial characters would be a burden to the development schedule.

[Daerog]

Merced256 wrote...

Because you saw lots of dwarves in lothering.. oh and elves other than one singular family! Oh and nevermind that your family would probably have to change in race as well to suit your story. Unless of course you want to go all NWN2, but wait that wouldn't work because this time you actually have a family.

Well, there are dwarves in Kirkwall and most of Hawke's family seems to be there. We didn't see all of Lothering. There are plenty of elves. However, Family I also see as the main reason. Maybe there is something else, but as there is a family thing involved with the plot, changing the species around may not work, especially if some family members hold certain titles or w/e.

[Greenface21]

I have a feeling Mages and the Chantry will play an important role in the DA2. Changing Bethany's class might water down the story.

[Merced256]

Faz432 wrote...

Ok maybe what I said isn't as obvious to other people.

When I say 'Is it not just changing the points of reference in the dialogue?'

I mean instead of 'Hawke the human and his/her family who fled the blight from lothering'

it becomes 'Hawke the Elf and his/her family who fled the blight from Wending woods/the anlienage'

or

'Hawke the Surface Dwarf and his/her family who fled the blight from *________*'

and as for Bethany being a mage and that conflicting with being a Dwarf is it that difficult to change her class?

Even if they did it like that then they would still have to explain flemeth's involvement. And considering blights don't really directly effect dwarves in terms of threat to life, why would dwarves flee their ancestral home that has stood against the dark spawn for xxxx years?

[B3taMaxxx]

Behindyounow wrote...

Elves and Dwarves are American. Humans are British. You'd need new VAs.

 I don't think, rather know, that this is the case. Human Fereldans  have British accents.

 Regardless, BioWare is doing their "third person narrative" in this game. In and of that, is the only reason.

[0rz0]

Well, I saw players looking like broodmothers already, shouldn't be too hard to make a mod to look like a dwarf or elf.

[biomag]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I imagine if it was simple they'd probably do it. The fact that they not only aren't but announced it so early leads me to believe that Hawke's humanity is either integral to the story, or having multiracial characters would be a burden to the development schedule.

True words, but as it seems they are pretty hard to understand... especially knowing that Bioware just wants to harm themselves by making fans angry... Bioware's agenda:

1. Make a great game!
2. Get a large number of fans!
3. Announce sequel!
4. Destroy all hopes and dreams of the fans by making the game horrible!
5. Laugh like a villian and pet your white cat while sitting in a chair and enjoy your triumph over the fans!!!

... man, what a hell of a plan!

[Daerog]

Faz432 wrote...

and as for Bethany being a mage and that conflicting with being a Dwarf is it that difficult to change her class?

If she is a full companion, that would cause some issues as you would have to create more possible backgrounds for a npc. Her being a mage probably plays an important role that is lost as a dwarf. It's like changing the species of the Origins companions, that would really change things up. Wynne and Morrigan couldn't heal if they were dwarves, or if only one was a dwarf, you are stuck with a single healer.
Possible? Sure. Worth it? I don't know, certainly take more time and money.

[Knight Templar_]

Faz432 wrote...

Ok maybe what I said isn't as obvious to other people.

When I say 'Is it not just changing the points of reference in the dialogue?'

I mean instead of 'Hawke the human and his/her family who fled the blight from lothering'

it becomes 'Hawke the Elf and his/her family who fled the blight from Wending woods/the anlienage'

or

'Hawke the Surface Dwarf and his/her family who fled the blight from *________*'

and as for Bethany being a mage and that conflicting with being a Dwarf is it that difficult to change her class?

Also as for the 'champion of kirkwall' being a lowly Elf, wouldn't that make it even more spectacular?

Its not that simple. Aside from the voice acting story would need to be remade. You'd need different characters for each race because some of them are family.

It's either a lot of effort of changes with so little meaning they are as important as hair colour.

[B3taMaxxx]

Merced256 wrote...

Even if they did it like that then they would still have to explain flemeth's involvement. And considering blights don't really directly effect dwarves in terms of threat to life, why would dwarves flee their ancestral home that has stood against the dark spawn for xxxx years?

 Dwarves have far less because of on-coming blights than most. I though it was clear that the Dwarves were teetering on the brink of annihilation.

[Daerog]

biomag wrote...

True words, but as it seems they are pretty hard to understand... especially knowing that Bioware just wants to harm themselves by making fans angry... Bioware's agenda:

1. Make a great game!
2. Get a large number of fans!
3. Announce sequel!
4. Destroy all hopes and dreams of the fans by making the game horrible!
5. Laugh like a villian and pet your white cat while sitting in a chair and enjoy your triumph over the fans!!!

... man, what a hell of a plan!

BioWare! You have a spy in your network!

[biomag]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

biomag wrote...

True words, but as it seems they are pretty hard to understand... especially knowing that Bioware just wants to harm themselves by making fans angry... Bioware's agenda:

1. Make a great game!
2. Get a large number of fans!
3. Announce sequel!
4. Destroy all hopes and dreams of the fans by making the game horrible!
5. Laugh like a villian and pet your white cat while sitting in a chair and enjoy your triumph over the fans!!!

... man, what a hell of a plan!

BioWare! You have a spy in your network!

Ah, watch out! Now that you unmasked me, I will have to kill you!

[Faz432]

One of the reasons I'm bringing this up is because I personally found the replayabilty in DOA was in the fact I could play with different Races, what's the replayabilty going to be like in DA2?

I can play as a male human Hawke and be good or bad

I can play as a female human Hawke and be good or bad

That's it..

Modifié par Faz432, 02 septembre 2010 - 08:33 .

[biomag]

Faz432 wrote...

One of the reasons I'm bringing this up is because I personally found the replayabilty in DOA was in the fact I could play with different Races, what's the replayabilty going to be like in DA2?

I can play as a male human Hawke and be good or bad

I can play as a female human Hawke and be good or bad

That's it..

I see... you played the game... great.

You should try out Alpha Protocol... no replay value, as you can be just a human male... still it has more than, what 6 endings?...and a whole load of alternative paths to take to get there... but yes, basically its just 1 playthrough being male and afterwards its all the same...