it doesn't matter what happends to allistair if u done awakening he gets executed U can look at my 2nd Raiko storyline
DAMNIT, ALISTAIR!!!
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#27
Posté 02 septembre 2010 - 03:12
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Hmmm? I don't know what you did, but that didn't use to happen to me.
#28
Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 12:46
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DWSmiley wrote...
I do sympathize Quill but I suspect that after a good rest you'll be more of a mind that it's not a fail on BW's part to have npc's with their own agenda and the determination to stick with it. And Alistair is not the only love interest who makes a dramatic, plot-changing decision near the end, as I discovered on my first playthrough.
Her name doesn't happen to start with an "M," does it?
But, yes, to the others in this thread — thanks for participating, BTW — I've had some rest now and am heading back to work from supper break. Afterward, I'll finish this playthrough with a proper US for my character, then do some experimenting with other save files WRT to endings and whatnot.
My official, canon ending for most (if not all) of my characters is the DR. I don't want to play an Orelsian warden in DAA, nor do I wish to "resurrect" my supposedly dead warden. So, DR it is. Practical as always.
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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 01:27
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Did you really think Alistair would let you die if he could stop it? He is who he is.
He is who he is.
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#31
Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 01:35
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What? No, he doesn't. This is completely false.Rikudou Sennin wrote...
it doesn't matter what happends to allistair if u done awakening he gets executed U can look at my 2nd Raiko storyline
#32
Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 01:59
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First of all, I think the op getting mad is incredibly cute.
Second, and I thought Alistair dying for you would be considered as the epitome of the romance. Can't a guy get himself killed for a woman anymore these days? I mean, we are getting more useless with each passing day, give us a break.
Second, and I thought Alistair dying for you would be considered as the epitome of the romance. Can't a guy get himself killed for a woman anymore these days? I mean, we are getting more useless with each passing day, give us a break.
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#33
Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 02:01
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errant_knight wrote...
Did you really think Alistair would let you die if he could stop it?
EXCEEEEPT...well you know the drill.
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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 02:22
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KnightofPhoenix wrote...
First of all, I think the op getting mad is incredibly cute.
Second, and I thought Alistair dying for you would be considered as the epitome of the romance. Can't a guy get himself killed for a woman anymore these days? I mean, we are getting more useless with each passing day, give us a break.
Yeah, you guys are completely useless now.
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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 06:50
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The worst part of this ending for me wasn't the fact that I couldn't stop him, it was the party with Smug Anora on the throne practically giggling in my PC's face about being queen. The reaction (rather NON reaction of the people who were your companions the entire game) to Alistair's death and the one throwaway line Wynne has. Everyone calls the PC the "Hero of Ferelden" but it was Alistair who killed the archdemon but no one gave a damn. Freaking love of my PC's life dies for her and the damn country and no one gave a hoot. BAH I should have let the Archdemon eat them all!
I was so pissed off I wanted to throw my PC through the window. Not sure that's what Bioware intended my reaction to be but that was it.
That, IMO, is where Bioware epic failed.
I was so pissed off I wanted to throw my PC through the window. Not sure that's what Bioware intended my reaction to be but that was it.
That, IMO, is where Bioware epic failed.
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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 07:31
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KnightofPhoenix wrote...
First of all, I think the op getting mad is incredibly cute.
Second, and I thought Alistair dying for you would be considered as the epitome of the romance. Can't a guy get himself killed for a woman anymore these days? I mean, we are getting more useless with each passing day, give us a break.
But...but...it means you can't get the US achievement! Alistair STEALS it!
#38
Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 07:44
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Everyone:
Well, I finished the campaign with my newest character and got the US ending I wanted. I've played DA through several times now but damned if I still didn't *tear up* with the US ending and the epilogues that followed.
You know a game is good when it brings out that sort of emotional reaction. So, I once again salute Bioware for an overall good product, in spite of some itty bitty spots that could use polishing.
Quill74Pen
Well, I finished the campaign with my newest character and got the US ending I wanted. I've played DA through several times now but damned if I still didn't *tear up* with the US ending and the epilogues that followed.
You know a game is good when it brings out that sort of emotional reaction. So, I once again salute Bioware for an overall good product, in spite of some itty bitty spots that could use polishing.
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#39
Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 02:00
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Agreed. If proper acknowledgment of Alistar's sacrifice got zapped because of EA's push to get the product out the door, well...but it was a very callous scene.sylvanaerie wrote...
The worst part of this ending for me wasn't the fact that I couldn't stop him, it was the party with Smug Anora on the throne practically giggling in my PC's face about being queen. The reaction (rather NON reaction of the people who were your companions the entire game) to Alistair's death and the one throwaway line Wynne has. Everyone calls the PC the "Hero of Ferelden" but it was Alistair who killed the archdemon but no one gave a damn. Freaking love of my PC's life dies for her and the damn country and no one gave a hoot. BAH I should have let the Archdemon eat them all!
I was so pissed off I wanted to throw my PC through the window. Not sure that's what Bioware intended my reaction to be but that was it.
That, IMO, is where Bioware epic failed.
@Quill - huzzah! I've only done two US out of far too many playthroughs. The final battle is so somber knowing that win or lose, there is no tomorrow. And the first time, Leli was my lover and that's got to be the darkest of endings.
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Posté 04 septembre 2010 - 04:59
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I don't get it, why not allow the honor to Alistair. I did not try to stop Alistair, I just asked, if it's something what he wants to do. As elder Warden it's his right to sacriface his life to save us all.
How ever, I do agree that many choises where too forcefull, there could have been other choises too what player liked to do.
How ever, I do agree that many choises where too forcefull, there could have been other choises too what player liked to do.
#41
Posté 04 septembre 2010 - 05:06
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Your US becomes US of A (Ultimate Sacrifice of Alistair).Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...
But...but...it means you can't get the US achievement! Alistair STEALS it!
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Posté 04 septembre 2010 - 05:08
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KnightofPhoenix wrote...
errant_knight wrote...
Did you really think Alistair would let you die if he could stop it?
EXCEEEEPT...well you know the drill.
Indeed. We will never have even marginal agreement on Alistair, That's a given, isn't it, KoP? On the other hand, there's something to be said for knowing each other's arguments so well, they don't even have to be mentioned anymore. I expect you know my rebutal equally well. Consider it said.
#43
Posté 04 septembre 2010 - 05:10
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DWSmiley wrote...
Agreed. If proper acknowledgment of Alistar's sacrifice got zapped because of EA's push to get the product out the door, well...but it was a very callous scene.sylvanaerie wrote...
The worst part of this ending for me wasn't the fact that I couldn't stop him, it was the party with Smug Anora on the throne practically giggling in my PC's face about being queen. The reaction (rather NON reaction of the people who were your companions the entire game) to Alistair's death and the one throwaway line Wynne has. Everyone calls the PC the "Hero of Ferelden" but it was Alistair who killed the archdemon but no one gave a damn. Freaking love of my PC's life dies for her and the damn country and no one gave a hoot. BAH I should have let the Archdemon eat them all!
I was so pissed off I wanted to throw my PC through the window. Not sure that's what Bioware intended my reaction to be but that was it.
That, IMO, is where Bioware epic failed.
@Quill - huzzah! I've only done two US out of far too many playthroughs. The final battle is so somber knowing that win or lose, there is no tomorrow. And the first time, Leli was my lover and that's got to be the darkest of endings.
Agreed. That was just appalling. I could see it from Anora, even from the nobility in general, but not from the companions and Eamon. And not without the option for the PC to have a meltdown about it.
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Posté 04 septembre 2010 - 05:14
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You really thought that Alistair is allowing the woman he loves more than anything to die why he present and can do actually something about it? Heh, good one xD
As Errant knight said he is how he is and this is a point where you can't argue about with him. It's the second time were Alistair tells you flat out no and I can understand why people get irritated about losing control where they are teh mighty grey Wardenz otherwise.... but I love that. It makes Alistair as a character more human, really. He won't let you die because he couldn't live with the fact that there was something he could have done about it. If you leave him at the gates, he has no other choice than this, but being present with you at the AD? Forget it.
Also I love Gaider's evil writing.
As Errant knight said he is how he is and this is a point where you can't argue about with him. It's the second time were Alistair tells you flat out no and I can understand why people get irritated about losing control where they are teh mighty grey Wardenz otherwise.... but I love that. It makes Alistair as a character more human, really. He won't let you die because he couldn't live with the fact that there was something he could have done about it. If you leave him at the gates, he has no other choice than this, but being present with you at the AD? Forget it.
Also I love Gaider's evil writing.
Modifié par Merilsell, 04 septembre 2010 - 05:18 .
#45
Posté 04 septembre 2010 - 06:08
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Well, there is that mod where you can knock him out... that should've been an option in the game.
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Posté 04 septembre 2010 - 06:12
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With Gaider as lead writer? Not gonna happen. Ever.Zjarcal wrote...
Well, there is that mod where you can knock him out... that should've been an option in the game.
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Posté 04 septembre 2010 - 06:30
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Every time I hear Bastard I remeber:
Argyle you magnificent bastard! YOU did it!
Argyle you magnificent bastard! YOU did it!
#49
Posté 04 septembre 2010 - 09:30
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just leave him at the gate or take Morrigan up on her offer.
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Posté 04 septembre 2010 - 09:43
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CalJones wrote...
Even if he dumped you after Landsmeet, he won't let you do it. There are two options. As others have said, leave him at the gate. Or, if you can find it, there's a mod that lets you punch him out so he can't take the final blow if you do take him to fight the AD.
Name of mod?
sylvanaerie wrote...
The worst part of this ending for me wasn't the fact that I couldn't stop him, it was the party with Smug Anora on the throne practically giggling in my PC's face about being queen. The reaction (rather NON reaction of the people who were your companions the entire game) to Alistair's death and the one throwaway line Wynne has. Everyone calls the PC the "Hero of Ferelden" but it was Alistair who killed the archdemon but no one gave a damn. Freaking love of my PC's life dies for her and the damn country and no one gave a hoot. BAH I should have let the Archdemon eat them all!
This is where my dislike of Wynne fanned into full-blown hatred. But I agree that Bioware dropped the ball there.
Modifié par Reaverwind, 04 septembre 2010 - 09:47 .
