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[DWSmiley]

Ken555 wrote...

So of course Origins will have richer side -quests, but I have to agree with you that the Blight Orphans did not help at all.

No argument there, that's the silliest side quest.  Only a complete air-head of a Warden would not immediately realize they're being played.  And I didn't like that the apostate sidequest goes from finding them to unavoidably killing them.  There should have been a dialogue option, like when you track down the group in Origins who are on their way to report a blood mage to the Chantry.

[13Dannyboy13]

Overall awakenings felt like a rushed product, buggy and poorly tested, the 1.04 patch fixed some issues, but there are still some annoying bugs. The difficulty is a joke, even on nightmare I think I died once and that was at the very end because I used the wrong strategy with the boss.

The characters just don't seem as deep as in origins, and the new dialogue system is annoying at times, a better idea would've been to have a mix of the new system and origins. At least having some dialogue from them could've added some depth to the new characters.

Overall it was okay, definitely overpriced, but just seemed lacking compared to origins in many ways, the depth just wasn't there.

[Esbatty]

I dug it, added another 12-15 hours to my DAO playthrough. I started a second DAO playthough and missed some of the cool spells/abilities, armors, weapons, and treasure... OH THE TREASURE. Awakening kinda spoiled me when I could actually afford awesome equipment for my partners.



Awakening's decisions reminded me of some of the ones you had to make in the original Mass Effect, while reflecting some of the spookiness of the Ozammar/Anvil of the Void overall feel.

[night0205]

Dragon Age Origins is a complete game... and Awakening is an expansion of that game... so yes the quality is not as good...

[13Dannyboy13]

night0205 wrote...

Dragon Age Origins is a complete game... and Awakening is an expansion of that game... so yes the quality is not as good...

It's more the bugs and lack of testing that take away from it, you can tell it was rushed out the door as fast as possible to maximize profits. The fact that it's an expansion shouldn't make any difference in quality, if anything it should be better since it's shorter and smaller than origins and they should've had more time to polish it and get the bugs out.

[jasiones]

I started playing awakening LOVING it..then as i got more and more into the game i started liking it less and less...



kinda like that scene in resevoir dogs where he starts off with a HUGE tip for the waitress but takes some back here and there as his meal progressed LOL

[BadJustice]

I agree with you.

But don't get me wrong, Awakening was an awesome expansion.

However compared to the epicness of Origins...ehhhh I don't think so.

The companions are boring, and there aint much depth into them (Anders was really close though).

The Joining ritual was repeated WAAYYY too much and doesn't feel as special and unique as in the first game.

But one thing that really killed me was there was just too much random-lengthy fightings that doesnt feel rewarding

[night0205]

Awakening is buggy/glitchy I give you that, and it is not as epic/deep/detailed as origins, but it's still far better then most whole games that are released today, and again, it's a expansion.

[Ken555]

night0205 wrote...

Awakening is buggy/glitchy I give you that, and it is not as epic/deep/detailed as origins, but it's still far better then most whole games that are released today, and again, it's a expansion.

True, but what most people would agree with is that it had the potential to be better. It was an expansion better than a lot of other games, but it could have been better .

[Hulk Hsieh]

The obvious bugs like the lost equipment in the mine and the "trade must flow" quest are a quite obvious indication of it lower quality.

[Dean_the_Young]

As opposed to the obvious bugs like Jowan's chantry-board mission, outright missing dialogue chains from major companions, missing pieces of equipment in armor sets, or even an entirely missin ending scenario in the X-Box version?

[Mr.Tacito]

Yeah the Blackblade Armor would of been perfect for my Rogue, but of course the boots and gloves are unobtainable! Also Velanna's side-quest wouldn't trigger for me...

[DWSmiley]

There's a mod for the Blackblade armor but if you get it where it is supposed to drop it's so late in the game it hardly matters.

[termokanden]

I think people are expecting too much from Awakening when it's just an expansion. Compared to the other DLC, it seems you get a lot more for your money. Certainly also when you compare it to DLC for other games.



The problem with Dragon Age in general is the bugs. It's not acceptable that there are so many of them. After all this time, my game still crashed 3 times in Lothering last night (and no there's nothing wrong with my computer). There are still memory leaks and skills that don't quite work. It's not good enough, and it doesn't live up to the standard of other Bioware games (I'm not claiming they are bug-free btw).



One last point. It has already been said in this thread, but it's sad that Awakening doesn't update Origins with the new specializations and skills/talents. It doesn't matter that some of them are only available at level 20, because you do in fact reach level 20 and beyond in Origins. To me it's kind of lazy to update the system but not allow those updates in the main game.

[Yrkoon]

termokanden wrote...

I think people are expecting too much from Awakening when it's just an expansion. Compared to the other DLC, it seems you get a lot more for your money. Certainly also when you compare it to DLC for other games.

Perhaps.  Although I will say that the unusually high  release-date price for this  add-on didn't help temper my expectations.      I don't care about other companies and other games.  When  I see Bioware's name on a product, and that product costs $40,  I expect something really good.  Because that's been their history for 10+ years without fail... until   Awakening.

And I disagree with the bang for your buck argument.  I only paid about $7 for the  Lilianna's Song DLC and was much more satisfied with it.  Unlike Awakening,  Lilianna's Song  acquitted its pricetag


Overall I'd say, Awakenings was rushed,  unbalanced... and there was something... odd.... about the pacing of it.  The story itself was superb, however, but  one strong point in a sea of weakpoints does not make a game good.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 06 septembre 2010 - 12:44 .

[TMZuk]

s0meguy6665 wrote...

So I played awakening, thinking i was going to have an experience of similar high quality to DAO. But i was really disappointed. The dialogue is crappy, oghren is reduced to (bad, cliche) comedic relief and the storyline is very shallow. i couldn't play more than a few hours, i was pretty disillusioned when i went from DAO to awakenings. but i don't see this sentiment expressed by many other people. Please show me some sign this isn't what satisfies bioware fans and gamers in general these days.

I complete agree. Awakenings was a huge let-down. How it could be rated "best expansion" by some gamingmagazine, I forget which, goes to prove how much in the pockets of the producers these magazines are. I felt robbed.

[Funkjoker]

night0205 wrote...
... and again, it's a expansion.

So what? There are expansions to other games that are >>> Awakening in terms of length, story, romance etc., pretty much everything Awakening is lacking. Even for such a small game they managed to bring so many bugs in, which clearly shows how rushed DA:A is.

I'm also really disappointed about Awakening. I made a post about this regarding the keep (management) in Awakening. social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/127/index/2530907

[Mogo Dan]

I agree.  I must admit I have not played the entire expansion. But right from the first hour or two I didn't find myself as drawn in as I was with Origins. So far the quests don't seem to be to compelling either and I think it's a bit funny how you find yourself performing a Joining every few minutes.

Not to say it's a bad game, it's got all the original DAO components there but I think it would have been much better off if the game story as well as all the changes to skills, spells, stats, were all integrated with the original game rather than a stand alone.

[RexAnthony]

termokanden wrote...

I think people are expecting too much from Awakening when it's just an expansion. Compared to the other DLC, it seems you get a lot more for your money. Certainly also when you compare it to DLC for other games.

Hordes of the Underdark, Mask of Betrayer are also expansions and they
are actually good, feel like you are begining a new journey.

termokanden wrote...

The problem with Dragon Age in general is the bugs. It's not acceptable
that there are so many of them. After all this time, my game still
crashed 3 times in Lothering last night (and no there's nothing wrong
with my computer). There are still memory leaks and skills that don't
quite work. It's not good enough, and it doesn't live up to the standard
of other Bioware games (I'm not claiming they are bug-free btw).

One
last point. It has already been said in this thread, but it's sad that
Awakening doesn't update Origins with the new specializations and
skills/talents. It doesn't matter that some of them are only available
at level 20, because you do in fact reach level 20 and beyond in
Origins. To me it's kind of lazy to update the system but not allow
those updates in the main game.

I totally agree with you !

[termokanden]

Spuudle wrote...

I agree with you about expecting too much. However, I understand why people have/and do, when this particular one is priced so highly.  Also, although I have just got a new PC for my gaming this week, I am to date an xbox360 player. In all this time I have never had a game crash on me, until DA:O 5 times, and Awakening 3 times. I initially panicked, fearing RROD. It was the game and not the machine though.......unusual

Regarding the price, I may be too used to expensive DLC with absolutely no content. So for me Awakening is far above average with regards to what you actually get for your money. Then again, I don't really care much about the price. Time investment > money investment. I bet it is for most people that actually have the time to play such a game.

As for the bugs. Had to give up playing my mage since my spells seem to crash the game often enough that it has become very annoying. Have the crashes actually become MORE frequent?

[termokanden]

Perhaps the most infamous is Modern Warfare 2 with its expensive map packs containing just a few new maps each and a couple of maps from the previous game.

But it's not limited to MW2. There's plenty of expensive DLC with almost no content out there, sadly.

Again, I don't care so much about the price myself. I'd pay for a DLC to fix the bugs so I feel less stupid for investing so much time in this game.

If you just want to talk about DAO DLC, sure. Warden's Keep is cheap but it's very quickly over. Golems of Amgarrak was quite poor if you asked me. Return to Ostagar was too short. The darkspawn DLC was horrible - same areas as before, BUGS, boring playing a vanguard. You don't get a whole lot for your money here!

I should mention that I very much like Shale and Leliana's Song.

Modifié par termokanden, 06 septembre 2010 - 02:03 .