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[XX55XX]

The character support threads in this forum are especially telling:

If a character doesn't have a romance or the suggestion of one, discussion about them falls by the wayside, even if people really like that character. Best examples are Mordin and Wrex. Everyone loves them, but no one seems to want to talk about them.

Are romances part of a character's appeal? Or perhaps it's just because romances give us more to discuss?

[XX55XX]

Whoops. Posted in the wrong forum. I hope a mod moves it.

[Edit: Done! - Pacifien]

Modifié par Pacifien, 04 septembre 2010 - 02:38 .

[AntiChri5]

This might as well be the right forum.



Anyway, people get more attached to those they boink.

[theelementslayer]

Personally I dont know why but I think AntiChri is right, sadly. However my fav character is still Samara, but thats because I almost boinked her . In all seriousness though they probably feel more attached because sex does that, even if it is virtual.

[XX55XX]

AntiChri5 wrote...

This might as well be the right forum.

Anyway, people get more attached to those they boink.

True... but I felt pretty attached to Mordin, for example. His sordid past gives the fan community plenty to talk about.

[XX55XX]

theelementslayer wrote...

Personally I dont know why but I think AntiChri is right, sadly. However my fav character is still Samara, but thats because I almost boinked her . In all seriousness though they probably feel more attached because sex does that, even if it is virtual.

Exactly. Samara is the best example of this. She dresses in such a manner that, had it not been the "Code" that she adheres to, she probably would have had little problem engaging in any sort of romance, even though she officially doesn't have one.

[theelementslayer]

XX55XX wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

Personally I dont know why but I think AntiChri is right, sadly. However my fav character is still Samara, but thats because I almost boinked her . In all seriousness though they probably feel more attached because sex does that, even if it is virtual.

Exactly. Samara is the best example of this. She dresses in such a manner that, had it not been the "Code" that she adheres to, she probably would have had little problem engaging in any sort of romance, even though she officially doesn't have one.

Well the reason for Samara is my shep acts exactly like her. She is ruthless and will never let justice leave. Though I will sacrifice 100 to save a million. I respected Samara though, and she just felt the most personal of them all, she was bound by her code and she stuck to it. Back to your point it might also have to do with the actual thing that people want the sex. They dont talk to the non romance characters. Probably at least 70% of the guys tried to romance Miri and talked to her ALOT. Samara probably not so much if you understand my point. This means they wouldnt get to actually know them. Its exactly like the Jack haters. because of her beginning personality they dont talk to her at all and actually understand her.

[Aedan_Cousland]

*Shrugs*

My favorite squadmate so far has been Garrus. Sure, they made him romanceable in ME2 but since my Shepard is a straight male, that wasn't part of his 'cool' factor. On a side note I'm not sure why anyone would want to romance Garrus. He's an awesome character, but he's Turian! He's got avian features and a metal exoskeleton. I think the people who romanced Garrus would also 'romance' a Varren. I guess for those players there is no mystery on how scale itch got aboard.

[Pacifien]

I wish I knew why the threads for the romantic interests far exceed those of other characters. I suspect it started when those who wanted a particular romantic interest decided a massive show of support would get their voices heard. Then, once that started, people just kinda stuck all their discussion about the character and everything peripherally related to one thread.

For instance, a discussion about Garrus's decision with Sidonis or how the Turian military works will likely be found in the Garrus thread. But a discussion about the genophage or the Salarian STG will have their own threads versus being thrown in with the Mordin thread. Same with Legion's loyalty mission or discussion about the Geth, that seems to get discussed outside of Legion's character thread.

Plus, keeping a thread going for any length of time takes a certain dedication that apparently only the romance characters tend evoke. I started a Grunt thread, 'cause he's awesome, but I don't feel compelled to come up with conversation topics about him to keep his thread going. I mean, I've come up with a couple topics, but others have to bring their contributions to it as well. They just don't.

Modifié par Pacifien, 04 septembre 2010 - 03:12 .

[OniGanon]

Maybe it's because the only way to get a decent amount of conversation out of anyone in the crew is to romance them.

[Pacifien]

OniGanon wrote...
Maybe it's because the only way to get a decent amount of conversation out of anyone in the crew is to romance them.

Really? Because all garrus told me was that he just had to get those calibrations done.

I use Mordin as the standard by which the amount of dialogue should start with the squadmates. I think he has more unique conversation points as well as a rotating collection of "go away" responses than anyone else on the ship. But, you know, since he declines Shepard's advances ever so subtly, no one wants to talk about him.

[Big Yam]

Mordin and Grunt have too much respect to fill their threads with spam, non-game conversation, and trash posts.

[numotsbane]

Because there is only ever open shows of support for causes or beliefs that are disputed.

you never see people in a thread chatting about how awesome the sun is and how they hope its going to come up over the horizon next moring.

As long as people exist who don't like a character, the people who do will feel a need to shout them down. well thats my theory anyway. though it doesn't explain Garrus thread, cause who doesn't like garrus?

[Water Dumple]

For some reason, it seems like there's much more to talk about for the LIs, even though the non-romanceable characters get more general dialogue regardless of Shepard's gender. Mordin, Grunt, Wrex, and the Legion remain some of my favorite characters, but the general community doesn't seem to promote as much discussion/art/topic material about them.

Modifié par Water Dumple, 04 septembre 2010 - 06:03 .

[NuclearBuddha]

People feel more invested in the character that (in their personal version of the story) complements their character.

[ToGVita]

The choice of LI is one of the few decisions in ME that is not flagged as paragon/renegade. There's no temptation to strategise or metagame, so people - mostly - do what they would do or what they imagine their Shep would do. And so the choice becomes an important characteristic of the playthrough.



I suspect most of the concern about having the LIs playing major roles in ME3 is because (for many of us) they are an important part of Shepard's story. If Bioware was designing a new game in the same universe NOT including Shepard, I suspect people would be more likely to support characters like Mordin and Wrex.

[OBakaSama]

Looking around on the forums does suggest that fans talk about the LIs more than the other members of the crew. I have my favourite LIs, but I usually don't participate in their thread; I tend to go to the other characters' threads.



Pacifien is right on the topic association though. Certain issues could dissociated from the character and discussed independently. (Plus given forum rules, those issues may end up deviating from the character thread...)

[RGFrog]

hmm... to me, Mordin and Zaeed seemed to have far more interesting pasts than any of the other characters. Samara and Kasumi bring up a close second. Zaeed's revenge arc and how he survived/thrived as a merc; Mordin's STG work and packing a life into a short time span; Kasumi's ninja theifing; and Samara's just been around forever... they all seem they'd have good back stories to explore.

The others, to me, not so much. Jack's past, well you pretty much deal with that. Miranda's... it's probably full of perfect and boring. Garrus, he and Tali are both known already and neither have much that interests me. Grunt has no past; Legion is a computer. Thane might have some good stories about how he crawled through ducts to get to his targets, but that would get old fast.

LI's are great. I crushed on Miri. But, for me, an LI is not enough to warrant discussing ad nauseum so i've never joined the massive support threads.

I'd be more interested in back stories/dlc/missions that filled out the above four.

[Khuutra]

Wrex is the best character there is. THat is all I have to say.

[Cypher0020]

I have to agree with this.... like I'm a huge Ash fan,but since I play femshep= no romance.....and ususally char threads are 100+ pages of luuuuuuv..... I feel at odd's sometimes



I think that trust is more important than who you end up banging at the end of the day IMHO