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[SithLordExarKun]

Riona45 wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...
i should role out the red carpet for you your majesty.

I don't know, he seems like a "just the First Citizen" type to me.

Nah, i think hes royalty. Gotta give respect to a king man, i don't want to have my head cut off.

[Onyx Jaguar]

InvisiShepard wrote...

I actually would like the 3 different classes being given different body types so that only Female Mages have boobs that big (Let's pretend she's vain) while the others are a bit more... mature looking and not out of Playboy/Baywatch

But who would be more vain?  Rogue or Mage?

There is an ongoing debate as I would say Mage, while a Rogue would be more slender and possibly physically attractive.

[Saibh]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...


A 75-page thread seems to disagree with this statement, let's also not forgot how it's been brought up 4-5 times by now.

So that makes it absolute fact? If 10 000 people said that Barack Obama is a white man, it therefore screams the truth?

That's a false fact. This is an opinion Dave is pointing out many people have wide and varying and strong opinions about. Also, a group of ten thousand in a country of tens of millions makes no difference. 75 pages in one day on these forums is something.

Just because a bunch of people on these forums(who happens to be a small percentage of people compared to the rest of the buyers of DAO(and DA2) made a 75 page long thread(mostly posted by the same people), doesn't make it a huge issue.

It should mean something. Even the no-overhead/no-toolset thread didn't get that much, that quick. Regardless, it's important on the forums, evidently, and they do read our thoughts.

Modifié par Saibh, 04 septembre 2010 - 06:20 .

[Riona45]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...



There is an ongoing debate as I would say Mage, while a Rogue would be more slender and possibly physically attractive.

There is?

[CrookedAsylum]

Ineffable Igor wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...


But they swing heavy objects around and are more likely to have to stay in shape

And mages always seem to be waving huge staves around in this setting.

A wizard's staff has a knob on the end
A knob on the end
A knob on the end...

Oh dear...

[Onyx Jaguar]

Unless its happening in the future. That is possible

[Aristorum]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

InvisiShepard wrote...

I actually would like the 3 different classes being given different body types so that only Female Mages have boobs that big (Let's pretend she's vain) while the others are a bit more... mature looking and not out of Playboy/Baywatch

But who would be more vain?  Rogue or Mage?

There is an ongoing debate as I would say Mage, while a Rogue would be more slender and possibly physically attractive.

Well why does my mage have to be vain? Maybe my mage is an andrastian and therefore ashamed of her magical prowess, leading her too look small, bony, and possibly hunched.

This is the reason why I wouldn't be so totally against sliders for body size. I know it'd never work, but it's still nice to dream.

[hexaligned]

Saibh wrote...

You know what? If Garrett's muscle mass is such a problem, it can be changed, too.

I will point out that it is not nearly as idealized as Bethany's character model, or as impractical, but there you go.

Besides that, as previously noted, the reason why men tend to be made like that is because other men would like to see their avatars as this buff, powerful, masculine figures (not every man, but enough so that this standard persists), and would also like to see the women as sensual, busty eyecandy. They are not the same thing. Men not complaining that their character figures are idealized is not the same as women complaining about theirs.

It's pretty idealized actually.  Speaking from personal expierience from before I got my nice cushy civilian job:  Wearing armor 24/7 while lugging around weapons and engaing in combat burn a hell of a lot of calories.  More than you can ever replace without tons of downtime.  You end up looking like corded wood.  Think more Bruce Lee than Arnold.  Thats with modern rations that give 4-5k calories with 0 effort a day too.  If you are scavanging/hunting as you go you wouldn't even be able to maintain that amount of muscle mass.  Not that reality matters in a video game.

Modifié par relhart, 04 septembre 2010 - 06:55 .

[Lord_Valandil]

I'm off to sleep. i bet that tomorrow this will have reached 30+ pages.

See you later guys and gals. Beware of the Nug Bombs.

[Riona45]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

Ineffable Igor wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...


But they swing heavy objects around and are more likely to have to stay in shape

And mages always seem to be waving huge staves around in this setting.

A wizard's staff has a knob on the end
A knob on the end
A knob on the end...

Oh dear...

Heh.

[Saibh]

relhart wrote...

Saibh wrote...

You know what? If Garrett's muscle mass is such a problem, it can be changed, too.

I will point out that it is not nearly as idealized as Bethany's character model, or as impractical, but there you go.

Besides that, as previously noted, the reason why men tend to be made like that is because other men would like to see their avatars as this buff, powerful, masculine figures (not every man, but enough so that this standard persists), and would also like to see the women as sensual, busty eyecandy. They are not the same thing. Men not complaining that their character figures are idealized is not the same as women complaining about theirs.

It's pretty idealized actually.  Speaking from personal expierience from before I got my nice cushy civilian job:  Wearimg armor 24/7 while lugging around weapons and engaing in combat burn a hell of a lot of calories.  More than you can ever replace without tons of downtime.  You end up looking like corded wood.  Think more Bruce Lee than Arnold.  Thats with modern rations that give 4-5k calories with 0 effort a day too.  If you are scavanging/hunting as you go you wouldn't even be able to maintain that amount of muscle mass.  Not that reality matters in a video game.

I'm sure you're right, but still less idealized then Bethany's figure, especially in the setting given.

[Lord_Valandil]

filaminstrel wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

I think that the game is told enterily from Varric's POV.
Ten years have passed, and Cassandra wants to know what happened with Hawke.

But it would be kind of weird for it to end with Cassandra simply saying, "nice story, kthxbye" *roll credits*. There's probably some sort of followup regarding Cassandra, after the story is told. And I'm doubting the gameplay or models are going to change for that final portion, although I don't know how extensive that final portion will be either, assuming it exists.

I bet DA2 will end with a cliffhanger.
Now I'm really going, good night everyone.

[Bootsykk]

gotthammer wrote...

yukidama wrote...
I totally forgot that the bodies of athletes are not ideal! Look at this monster-



IDK. It just amuses me that people are acting like we're saying NO BOOBS FLAT AS A BOARD ONLY PLZ. All I want is some muscles and *smaller* boobs.

Yeah, I second this. 

Maybe it's because I actually have this type of body in real life that I think this, but muscle tone and smaller chests look good. You also have to be aware that this girl is a track runner. Track, no matter what event, is a high impact sport. You have to wear a really tight sports bra to not feel like someone shot you in the chest.

[SithLordExarKun]

Saibh wrote...
That's a false fact. This is an opinion Dave is pointing out many people have wide and varying and strong opinions about. Also, a group of 10,000 in a country of tens of millions makes no difference. 75 pages in one day is something.

It being trivial or not is an opinion, not fact  despite what you people think that it being a large matter is.

And really, 75 pages being repeatedly posted by the same people makes little difference regardless of what you choose to believe in. Oh, and Your say so doesn't make it so.

Saibh wrote...
It should mean something.

Yes, it simply means a very small issue that (some)people are blowing out of proportions.

Saibh wrote...
Even the no-overhead/no-toolset thread didn't get that much, that quick. Regardless, it's important on the forums, evidently, and they do read our thoughts.

Yes, just like how they have been reading the ME2 dissappointment thread(which is nearly 400 pages long and been out for nearly eight months and couldn't give a damn abut the complaints because the majortiy of people elsewhere enjoyed the game for what it is.

[InvisiShepard]

A justification could be Varric's exaggerations.



Varric: Oh you should have seen her Cassandra. Hourglass figure, beautiful red hair and a MOUNTAINOUS bosom with which she would crush her foes



For Male Hawk it would be the hidden longsword.... in his pants...



Then when the game returns to present day we see a more realistic and better proportioned models/physique's for Hawke. Cassandra laughs to herself thinking about the ridiculous image Varric put in her head

[Saibh]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Saibh wrote...
That's a false fact. This is an opinion Dave is pointing out many people have wide and varying and strong opinions about. Also, a group of 10,000 in a country of tens of millions makes no difference. 75 pages in one day is something.

It being trivial or not is an opinion, not fact  despite what you people think that it being a large matter is.

And really, 75 pages being repeatedly posted by the same people makes little difference regardless of what you choose to believe in. Oh, and Your say so doesn't make it so.

Saibh wrote...
It should mean something.

Yes, it simply means a very small issue that (some)people are blowing out of proportions.

Saibh wrote...
Even the no-overhead/no-toolset thread didn't get that much, that quick. Regardless, it's important on the forums, evidently, and they do read our thoughts.

Yes, just like how they have been reading the ME2 dissappointment thread(which is nearly 400 pages long and been out for nearly eight months and couldn't give a damn abut the complaints because the majortiy of people elsewhere enjoyed the game for what it is.

And you say other people don't like to listen to those that disagree.

If it's such a small issue, why are you devoting so much time to defending it?

[Dave of Canada]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

So that makes it absolute fact? If 10 000 people said that Barack Obama is a white man, it therefore screams the truth?

Horrible analogy. Even if 10 000 people yelled out that Obama was white, it would never make it true. If 10 000 people complained about the breast size, Bioware CAN change it.

Just because a bunch of people on these forums(who happens to be a small
percentage of people compared to the rest of the buyers of DAO(and DA2)
made a 75 page long thread(mostly posted by the same people), doesn't
make it a huge issue.

Where  did i depict hostility to the idea of them shrinking down?

You essentially came into this thread with pure sarcasm and laughing at everybody who disagreed with you, including calling people trolls and such.

All i did was point out and laugh at peoples ridiculous assertions that its unrealistic for a girl to have big boobs but its ok for a fantasy world to show dragons blowing flames out of their assess and annoying dwarves that dont shut up.(you get the idea).

We've had our discussion of realism earlier.

But hey, nice strawman argument, i should role out the red carpet for you your majesty.

That'd be nice, you'd save me some money.

Dave of Canada wrote...

No, you said Thedas, Thedas = DAO and DA2. Do you get my point?

But we're talking about Dragon Age 2 where we see women from Ferelden (who have the oversized breasts), the Free Marshes and probably Tevinter and such considering how the Free Marshes are this giant central area in the world of Thedas. Meaning that every woman in Thedas will have these giant breasts because they won't make multiple models for one character type, including Leliana / Morrigan and such if they reappear and don't have a custom rig.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 04 septembre 2010 - 06:26 .

[InvisiShepard]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Saibh wrote...
That's a false fact. This is an opinion Dave is pointing out many people have wide and varying and strong opinions about. Also, a group of 10,000 in a country of tens of millions makes no difference. 75 pages in one day is something.

It being trivial or not is an opinion, not fact  despite what you people think that it being a large matter is.

And really, 75 pages being repeatedly posted by the same people makes little difference regardless of what you choose to believe in. Oh, and Your say so doesn't make it so.

Saibh wrote...
It should mean something.

Yes, it simply means a very small issue that (some)people are blowing out of proportions.

Saibh wrote...
Even the no-overhead/no-toolset thread didn't get that much, that quick. Regardless, it's important on the forums, evidently, and they do read our thoughts.

Yes, just like how they have been reading the ME2 dissappointment thread(which is nearly 400 pages long and been out for nearly eight months and couldn't give a damn abut the complaints because the majortiy of people elsewhere enjoyed the game for what it is.

To be perfectly fair, some of the devs have admitted the shortcomings of Mass Effect 2 and there have been the usual comments of how ME3 will be much better and stuff. 

[Mallissin]

BOOOOOOOOOOOBS!



Sorry I'm late. What are we talking about?

[Crippledcarny]

Mallissin wrote...

BOOOOOOOOOOOBS!

Sorry I'm late. What are we talking about?

String Theory I believe.

[Ortaya Alevli]

Mallissin wrote...

BOOOOOOOOOOOBS!

Sorry I'm late. What are we talking about?

About boobs.

[InvisiShepard]

Gives a whole new meaning to I Support FemHawke

She really needs it.