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[Russalka]

Arttis wrote...

It really does.

Okay, we get it, you can't tell the sex without huge breasts.

[Theagg]

ZaroktheImmortal wrote...

Arttis wrote...

How about in this picture?

Make up...
Again using actors really make it bias.
Really not the best example...

How does it make it bias? Because you know who they are? You should be able to determine whether you can tell if they look female from looking at it whether you know who they are or not. And besides actors how many people are going to be wearing armour? Maybe some people at medieval fairs or something, but it's not like just anyone is going to be wearing armour.

Miranda Otto, the actress on dispaly in these pictures definitely has boobs....thats all that needs to be said.

Modifié par Theagg, 04 septembre 2010 - 11:38 .

[Arttis]

Russalka wrote...

Arttis wrote...

It really does.

Okay, we get it, you can't tell the sex without huge breasts.

You cannot tell the sex with just a face....
I have seen quite a few women with faces you would normally associate with a man.

[Lord Gremlin]

Arttis wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

Yana Montana wrote...



How about this?

Totally ooks like a dude. Your point?

It really does.

Lol, you're mad? It's a woman. If you have doubts you probably have really, really big problems.

[upsettingshorts]

As a guy I don't think I could ever get my neck that small without a diet bordering on malnutrition. I mean, I'm looking for secondary sex characteristics on that pic - and they're there: thin neck, narrow jawline, pouty lips - but none are so feminine as to be unheard of if they were attributes possessed by a male.

So in short I'd say she looks like a woman.  But if someone told me, "Actually it's a dude" I wouldnt be shocked.  It'd be a feminine dude, but those do exist.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 04 septembre 2010 - 11:40 .

[Russalka]

@Arttis
But that won't be a problem in DA2, will it? Whatever the breast size.

Modifié par Russalka, 04 septembre 2010 - 11:40 .

[LiquidGrape]

Arttis wrote...

minus the blonde hair and give me a year or two to grow my hair I could look like that.

Too bad. Willful denial is such a turn-off.

Allow me to completely destroy this silly notion of boobage being required to identify a persons sex.

[ZaroktheImmortal]

Arttis wrote...

Russalka wrote...

Arttis wrote...

It really does.

Okay, we get it, you can't tell the sex without huge breasts.

You cannot tell the sex with just a face....
I have seen quite a few women with faces you would normally associate with a man.

And I know plenty of women that you'd never associate with a man's face.

[upsettingshorts]

LiquidGrape wrote...
Allow me to completely destroy this silly notion of boobage being required to identify a persons sex.

It is by no means required, but it is one of the most obvious secondary sex characteristics.  Probably second only to facial hair on men.

[Sphynx118]

Russalka wrote...

Arttis wrote...

It really does.

Okay, we get it, you can't tell the sex without huge breasts.

If you guys would stop posting pics of fugly women who looks like guys then perhaps we could tell the difference :S

[Arttis]

LiquidGrape wrote...

Arttis wrote...

minus the blonde hair and give me a year or two to grow my hair I could look like that.

Too bad. Willful denial is such a turn-off.

Allow me to completely destroy this silly notion of boobage being required to identify a persons sex.

take away make up and that could pass for a man.
Some men do have feminine faces you know....I myself have been mistaken for a woman before....its quite embarrasing.....so i stick to a near shaved head.To help fools who think they can jusge a person's sex from their face and hair!

[InvisiShepard]

Damn! Are all these pictures of women in armor making anyone else feel... funny?

[LiquidGrape]

Oh, so now it's boobage and long hair which are the prerequisites in order to pass as a woman?
Very well.

[ZaroktheImmortal]

Arttis wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

Arttis wrote...

minus the blonde hair and give me a year or two to grow my hair I could look like that.

Too bad. Willful denial is such a turn-off.

Allow me to completely destroy this silly notion of boobage being required to identify a persons sex.

take away make up and that could pass for a man.
Some men do have feminine faces you know....I myself have been mistaken for a woman before....its quite embarrasing.....so i stick to a near shaved head.To help fools who think they can jusge a person's sex from their face and hair!

So you are suggesting that without makeup women look like men?

Modifié par ZaroktheImmortal, 04 septembre 2010 - 11:44 .

[Sphynx118]

LiquidGrape wrote...

Arttis wrote...

minus the blonde hair and give me a year or two to grow my hair I could look like that.

Too bad. Willful denial is such a turn-off.

Allow me to completely destroy this silly notion of boobage being required to identify a persons sex.

This is definetly a woman. Thanks for posting a pic of a normal looking woman instead of those ladyboys ive been seeing so far

[Russalka]

Sphynx118 wrote...

If you guys would stop posting pics of fugly women who looks like guys then perhaps we could tell the difference :S

First about boob envy, then about fugly women.
How old are you?

[upsettingshorts]

I'm sick of just referring to it, so here's a comprehensive list according to Wikipedia:

In humans, secondary sex characteristics include:

* Male
o Growth of body hair, including underarm, abdominal, chest, and pubic hair. Loss of scalp hair androgenic alopecia can also occur
o Greater mass of thigh muscles in front of the femur, rather than behind it as is typical in mature females
o Growth of facial hair
o Enlargement of larynx [Adam's apple] and deepening of voice[3]
o Increased stature; adult males are taller than adult females, on average
o Heavier skull and bone structure
o Increased muscle mass and strength
o Broadening of shoulders and chest; shoulders wider than hips[4]
o Increased secretions of oil and sweat glands, often causing acne and body odor [3]
o Coarsening or rigidity of skin texture, due to less subcutaneous fat
o Higher waist to hip ratio than prepubescent or adult females or prepubescent males, on average

* Female
o Enlargement of breasts and erection of nipples.[4]
o Growth of body hair, most prominently underarm and pubic hair
o Greater development of thigh muscles in back (behind the femur) than in front of it
o Widening of hips[5]; lower waist to hip ratio than adult males, on average
o Increased secretions of oil and sweat glands, often causing acne and body odor [3]
o Upper arms approximately 2 cm longer, on average, for a given height[6]
o Changed distribution in weight and fat; more subcutaneous fat and fat deposits mainly around the buttocks, thighs and hips

There you go. Plenty of ways to identify someone's sex without looking down their pants or up their skirt.

I for one am annoyed at all the needless peripheral arguments. The arguments are really this:

1) Do we want to see sexualized armor and clothing or realistic armor and clothing? Is there a middle ground?
2) In terms of sexual attractiveness, when do artists cross the line from believably attractive to cartoonish stereotypes?

All this stuff about trying to identify various women in unisex clothing is just drawing us away from those issues.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 04 septembre 2010 - 11:47 .

[Theagg]

Arttis wrote...

Theagg wrote...

And for those less bright folk who have attempted to justify the status quo when it comes to hefty mammaries, by equating it to males in game being portrayed as bulging beefcake, here's the thing. Its just not a justifiable comparison.

Exaggerated muscle tone reflects supreme strength. The trait of the warrior in games like this. ( righlty or wrongly, the muscle on display still equates to the intent, ie 'this character is strong' ).

What exactly do exaggerated breasts reflect ?

Are ridicuosly large breasts reflective of strength for the female warrior, of spell power for the female mage..?

I doubt it.

but my rogue and mage are as buff as my warrior.

Which, of course, is stupid. Could you imagine Arnie as a nimble, quick footed thief

( the scene between him and Danny Devito in 'Twins' talking about how limiting all that muscle bulk must be is a gem. )

[Arttis]

ZaroktheImmortal wrote...

Arttis wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

Arttis wrote...

minus the blonde hair and give me a year or two to grow my hair I could look like that.

Too bad. Willful denial is such a turn-off.

Allow me to completely destroy this silly notion of boobage being required to identify a persons sex.

take away make up and that could pass for a man.
Some men do have feminine faces you know....I myself have been mistaken for a woman before....its quite embarrasing.....so i stick to a near shaved head.To help fools who think they can jusge a person's sex from their face and hair!

So you are suggesting that without makeup women look like men?

A good many would.

[Sphynx118]

Russalka wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

If you guys would stop posting pics of fugly women who looks like guys then perhaps we could tell the difference :S

First about boob envy, then about fugly women.
How old are you?

Lol u mad?

[Faz432]

Well done to the OP for being a woman who is comfortable with her own body and isn't threatened by game characters.



I've seen the screen shots of Bethany and her mother and I don't think their boob size is really unbelievable or exaggerated, they look about a D or DD to me.







Boob envy, it's been around for years

[LiquidGrape]

Russalka wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

If you guys would stop posting pics of fugly women who looks like guys then perhaps we could tell the difference :S

First about boob envy, then about fugly women.
How old are you?

I would ask that too, but I was afraid it might spark a tantrum.

[Russalka]

So you are suggesting that without makeup women look like men?
A good many would.

Was it an issue in DA:O? No? Then it won't be one in DA2.
Can forget about this now.

Modifié par Russalka, 04 septembre 2010 - 11:46 .

[Ziggy]

Wow, did this thread really become about how to tell a man from a woman if she doesn't have big breasts?

I think I'll leave now.

[Russalka]

Sphynx118 wrote...

Russalka wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

If you guys would stop posting pics of fugly women who looks like guys then perhaps we could tell the difference :S

First about boob envy, then about fugly women.
How old are you?

Lol u mad?

I rest my case. Thank you very much.