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[InvisiShepard]

I think we should wait for HD gameplay footage of FemHawke before giving our final opinion

A funny thing they could do and maybe they did is that when the game starts, Varric is exaggerating your physical features and you look like Conan/Red Sonja but after Cassandra calls him out, you return to more modest proportions



The Female Qunari concept art should have been modified into FemHawke. That was perfect

[Chris Readman]

You may not have talked about "boob envy" (I was conveniently summing up all the negativity there), but you were guilty of the other thing

Modifié par Chris Readman, 04 septembre 2010 - 12:52 .

[Arttis]

Chris Readman wrote...

You may not have talked about "boob envy" (I was conveniently summing up all the negativity there), but you were guilty of the other thing

Many people men and women get put off the internet for many things.
Even those you call trolls and try telling them off can put them off the internet.
I would also ask for proof.

[Cutlasskiwi]

Chris Readman wrote...
My point is that your behavior is one contributing factors to putting female gamers off the internet.

Just dismissing their complaints as "boob envy" is just demeaning. Turn the chessboard around, it wouldn't be comfortable if you were told that men can only be identified by their privates, would you? Or would you like to play a game in which you're forced to play as a character with a big flopping donkey... you get my point. 

This! You sir are my new hero. Well said.

[Theagg]

Arttis wrote...

Theagg wrote...

Also his point seems to be that unrealistically BIG breasts are required to identify the character as female, rather than simply average sized breasts. ( and hasn't made any case why that should be so )

He kind of misses the point that the argument isn't that there should be no breasts at all.

You must not be reading all my other posts....
Well I am not gonna give the same response a 3rd time so.....try taking away all the judgements you have made and think.

So when you stated that having oversized boobs was the easiest way for the character to be identified as female, what exactly was it I was not reading then ?

[Arttis]

Yellow Words wrote...

Chris Readman wrote...
My point is that your behavior is one contributing factors to putting female gamers off the internet.

Just dismissing their complaints as "boob envy" is just demeaning. Turn the chessboard around, it wouldn't be comfortable if you were told that men can only be identified by their privates, would you? Or would you like to play a game in which you're forced to play as a character with a big flopping donkey... you get my point. 

This! You sir are my new hero. Well said.

Also I have stated in another thread that i would not mind a bulge slider.
Men mostyl do not get offended or insulted by a huge private part.
From what I can tell they get more offended by men always having a ton of abs.
Yet you do not see a ton of threads on it.That can be because of many things.

[Russalka]

Yellow Words wrote...

Chris Readman wrote...
My point is that your behavior is one contributing factors to putting female gamers off the internet.

Just dismissing their complaints as "boob envy" is just demeaning. Turn the chessboard around, it wouldn't be comfortable if you were told that men can only be identified by their privates, would you? Or would you like to play a game in which you're forced to play as a character with a big flopping donkey... you get my point. 

This! You sir are my new hero. Well said.

Seconded. Nice thing to come back from lunch to. Even though I tried ignoring this thread.

I excel in being baited by trolls.

[Faz432]

What's realistic or average for one person might be exaggerated or over the top for another, 'average boob size' changes every couple of years so what's average now isn't what will be 'average' in the future or what has been in the past. Also that 'average' will change depending where in the world you are. Personally I don't think a D or DD cup size is unrealistic.

Just because what your experience of something doesn't fall in line with someone else's doesn't make them wrong or you right just different, you shouldn't try and force your ideas and will upon them, like the people who are complaining in this thread are doing.

Modifié par Faz432, 04 septembre 2010 - 01:01 .

[Chris Readman]

Arttis wrote...

Chris Readman wrote...

You may not have talked about "boob envy" (I was conveniently summing up all the negativity there), but you were guilty of the other thing

Many people men and women get put off the internet for many things.
Even those you call trolls and try telling them off can put them off the internet.
I would also ask for proof.

Then I ask you for proof that you didn't put off any women by your posts. It's easier for me isn't it? All I have to do is pick one of the females who has been posting here and say "look, you've put one off", while you have to scour the whole of the internet in order to prove that you didn't.

Also, you're bringing in trolls into this argument? Seriously? Now those we WANT off the internet, except maybe the funny ones (which most aren't).

[Arttis]

Theagg wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Theagg wrote...

Also his point seems to be that unrealistically BIG breasts are required to identify the character as female, rather than simply average sized breasts. ( and hasn't made any case why that should be so )

He kind of misses the point that the argument isn't that there should be no breasts at all.

You must not be reading all my other posts....
Well I am not gonna give the same response a 3rd time so.....try taking away all the judgements you have made and think.

So when you stated that having oversized boobs was the easiest way for the character to be identified as female, what exactly was it I was not reading then ?

What your telling other peopel is that were saying its REQUIRED.
Again not gonna repeat myself.read my other posts for full answers.

[Collider]

I tend to think that most female gamers will permit a few exceptions in realism or design in order for the PC to have recognizably feminine features. To the extent that they have their boobs spilling out of the armor and dress while fighting darkspawn? Not quite so much, though.

[Arttis]

Chris Readman wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Chris Readman wrote...

You may not have talked about "boob envy" (I was conveniently summing up all the negativity there), but you were guilty of the other thing

Many people men and women get put off the internet for many things.
Even those you call trolls and try telling them off can put them off the internet.
I would also ask for proof.

Then I ask you for proof that you didn't put off any women by your posts. It's easier for me isn't it? All I have to do is pick one of the females who has been posting here and say "look, you've put one off", while you have to scour the whole of the internet in order to prove that you didn't.

Also, you're bringing in trolls into this argument? Seriously? Now those we WANT off the internet, except maybe the funny ones (which most aren't).

WHo are you to judge trolls?
And that would not be proof.
Because I would just pick someone you to believe is a troll and say look!
Or I could just claim to eb a troll and leave....by your logic anyway.

[Arttis]

Collider wrote...

I tend to think that most female gamers will permit a few exceptions in realism or design in order for the PC to have recognizably feminine features. To the extent that they have their boobs spilling out of the armor and dress while fighting darkspawn? Not quite so much, though.

And.....where are these breasts spilling out?

[Cutlasskiwi]

Russalka wrote...

Seconded. Nice thing to come back from lunch to. Even though I tried ignoring this thread.

I excel in being baited by trolls.

Me too. I want to look away but I just can't.

[Arttis]

Its called boredom.

[Russalka]

More like masochism in proving to oneself how stupid people are.
Even oneselves.

Modifié par Russalka, 04 septembre 2010 - 01:06 .

[Chris Readman]

Arttis wrote...

WHo are you to judge trolls?
And that would not be proof.
Because I would just pick someone you to believe is a troll and say look!
Or I could just claim to eb a troll and leave....by your logic anyway.

Wait... what? We're talking about you having a more difficult time to prove that you don't put women off the internet, than I do proving that you do put women off the internet. Whether I put trolls off or not is not really relevant, is it now?

[Collider]

I like to think that the devs sometimes read these kinds of threads for entertainment.

[Theagg]

Arttis wrote...

Theagg wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Theagg wrote...

Also his point seems to be that unrealistically BIG breasts are required to identify the character as female, rather than simply average sized breasts. ( and hasn't made any case why that should be so )

He kind of misses the point that the argument isn't that there should be no breasts at all.

You must not be reading all my other posts....
Well I am not gonna give the same response a 3rd time so.....try taking away all the judgements you have made and think.

So when you stated that having oversized boobs was the easiest way for the character to be identified as female, what exactly was it I was not reading then ?

What your telling other peopel is that were saying its REQUIRED.
Again not gonna repeat myself.read my other posts for full answers.

No, I'm asking you to clarify why you feel that the way to identify a woman from a man is for them to have huge breasts ?

Your claim that female players require it to be so ( so they can identify with the character ) has not been proven by the majority of comments on here. Do you really think female players are that vapid ?

Is it possibly the case that you are reducing women to merely their breasts. ( and that the larger the breast, the more female they are ) Seems like it, since of the numerous pictures of women in armor posted, for most you have replied..." no breasts, could be a man "

Kind of...sexist of you really.

Modifié par Theagg, 04 septembre 2010 - 01:08 .

[Arttis]

Chris Readman wrote...

Arttis wrote...

WHo are you to judge trolls?
And that would not be proof.
Because I would just pick someone you to believe is a troll and say look!
Or I could just claim to eb a troll and leave....by your logic anyway.

Wait... what? We're talking about you having a more difficult time to prove that you don't put women off the internet, than I do proving that you do put women off the internet. Whether I put trolls off or not is not really relevant, is it now?

Considering the OP and the title of teh thread its not really relevant regardless.

[Russalka]

Arttis wrote...

Considering the OP and the title of teh thread its not really relevant regardless.

Another easy way out, instead of proving one's point.

[Arttis]

Theagg wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Theagg wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Theagg wrote...

Also his point seems to be that unrealistically BIG breasts are required to identify the character as female, rather than simply average sized breasts. ( and hasn't made any case why that should be so )

He kind of misses the point that the argument isn't that there should be no breasts at all.

You must not be reading all my other posts....
Well I am not gonna give the same response a 3rd time so.....try taking away all the judgements you have made and think.

So when you stated that having oversized boobs was the easiest way for the character to be identified as female, what exactly was it I was not reading then ?

What your telling other peopel is that were saying its REQUIRED.
Again not gonna repeat myself.read my other posts for full answers.

No, I'm asking you to clarify why you feel that the way to identify a woman from a man is for them to have huge breasts ?

Your claim that female players require it to be so ( so they can identify with the character ) has not been proven by the majority of comments on here. Do you really think female players are that vapid ?

Is it possibly the case that you are reducing women to merely their breasts. ( and that the larger the breast, the more female they are ) Seems like it, since of the numerous pictures of women in armor posted, for most you have replied..." no breasts, could be a man "

Kind od...sexist of you really.

Simple bigger = easier to see.
With many different types of clothing and armor.
Bigger will stand out more.
While medium or average *realisticly* may not stand out at all in some armors/clothing.

[Collider]

Protip: Arttis is a troll. If you take him seriously you're just doing what he wants you to do.

[Theagg]

Collider wrote...

Protip: Arttis is a troll. If you take him seriously you're just doing what he wants you to do.

Indeed, I think he has been given enough to eat for today.

[ProudNegro]

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