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It's funny up to a point then it's, "Hey let's keep doing it because the games sell better. We'll just Lampshade it to make the loyal fans happy"


And we're supposed to be moved to anger because 15 year olds who otherwise wouldn't have bought the game did? 

As long as I'm in on the joke with Bioware, I'm able to laugh at it.  Just like Miranda's skin tight Boobsuit with heels.

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I repeat

Is it really unreasonable to you fan girls to ask for some women in the game to have D-cups? While the majority stays with C-cups or B--cups (especially Femhawke) ?


They're all going to have the same model. And it's closer to EE then it is to DD.

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Saibh also you're paranoia about Femhawke is insane, we haven't seen any high res shots of her and the little we've seen she seems to look normal.

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What screenshot can we see of Lady Hawke that's good enough to know how big her boobs are? The only ones I've seen have been those screen captures of the live video streaming from PAX, where you couldn't even make out really what she looked like, much less details about her figure.



Link?

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 i'll just assume women in thedas have that kind of physiology and remember to myself that this is not earth:devil:

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Sorry for double posting, but do you have proof MS?

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Russalka wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

that's just biological differences in gender. Males are equipped to impreginate Females. in terms of reproduction: Everything Males do is to win the attention of females for mating purposes, to prove that they would create successful offspring, and a female's role is to appeal as a candidate for reproduction by appearing as most physically and emotionally attractive as possible to prove that they can give birth to successful offspring

its just how nature works

in a different alternate universe from ours, where females impeginate males, I'm sure you would get your wish


I wouldn't compare cultural developments to biology.
One can, but with proper knowledge of semiotics or memetics.


right cultural developments. I could go pages and pages about this but TLDR:

Males are born physically stronger (upper body only) and with a larger brain cavity . Men go hunt and bring back food

Females are born equipped to give birth meaning they may be somewhat physically weaker due to disproportionate body mass, and have smaller brain cavities but more compressed brain matter. Women cook the meatz and pick berries.

over thousands of years of cultural development has been based off this fact.

Modifié par Mecha Tengu, 04 septembre 2010 - 05:18 .


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1. The "objectification" of men show them as strong, powerful and filled with sexual prowess. They go around and kill people with their middle finger raised in the sky and are essentially Gary Sues. The female version is that they have big breasts, love to have sex and are just objects for the powerful, manly men to come in and save. There's a difference between both.


You are my favorite person on the Internet today.


that's just biological differences in gender. Males are equipped to impreginate Females. in terms of reproduction: Everything Males do is to win the attention of females for mating purposes, to prove that they would create successful offspring, and a female's role is to appeal as a candidate for reproduction by appearing as most physically and emotionally attractive as possible to prove that they can give birth to successful offspring

its just how nature works

in a different alternate universe from ours, where females impeginate males, I'm sure you would get your wish


You have a very poor understanding of nature if you think the sexes really boil down to just that. That's not science you're quoting. It sounds much closer to ideology.


It's the abused layman's notion of evolutionary psychology, used in forums the Internet over to "prove" that someone doesn't have to think seriously about gender issues, because it's all biology.   It's about as related to science as social Darwinism is to Darwinism.

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They can give the civilians F cups for all I care but if it's a warrior and especially the freaking main character, I demand some dignified and respectable design. More so in Dragon Age since it's supposed to be a deep, story based and complicated RPG and not God Of War/Heavenly Sword



Even if FemHawke could only be a Mage I would request a wider waist and wider hips

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NKKKK wrote...

Saibh also you're paranoia about Femhawke is insane, we haven't seen any high res shots of her and the little we've seen she seems to look normal.


She seems to look exactly like Bethany, Aveline and your character's mother.

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MariSkep wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Corker wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

1. The "objectification" of men show them as strong, powerful and filled with sexual prowess. They go around and kill people with their middle finger raised in the sky and are essentially Gary Sues. The female version is that they have big breasts, love to have sex and are just objects for the powerful, manly men to come in and save. There's a difference between both.


You are my favorite person on the Internet today.


that's just biological differences in gender. Males are equipped to impreginate Females. in terms of reproduction: Everything Males do is to win the attention of females for mating purposes, to prove that they would create successful offspring, and a female's role is to appeal as a candidate for reproduction by appearing as most physically and emotionally attractive as possible to prove that they can give birth to successful offspring

its just how nature works

in a different alternate universe from ours, where females impeginate males, I'm sure you would get your wish


You have a very poor understanding of nature if you think the sexes really boil down to just that. That's not science you're quoting. It sounds much closer to ideology.



okay teach me how it rolls according to you

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Don't try to bring expertise or precise knowledge to internet forums. It backfires every time after the opposition inevitably drags you down to their level after their aggressive ignorance weakens your ability to restrain your frustration.



And before you know it, you're posting sarcastic cat pictures.



Best to quit before that happens.

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Corker wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Corker wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

1. The "objectification" of men show them as strong, powerful and filled with sexual prowess. They go around and kill people with their middle finger raised in the sky and are essentially Gary Sues. The female version is that they have big breasts, love to have sex and are just objects for the powerful, manly men to come in and save. There's a difference between both.


You are my favorite person on the Internet today.


that's just biological differences in gender. Males are equipped to impreginate Females. in terms of reproduction: Everything Males do is to win the attention of females for mating purposes, to prove that they would create successful offspring, and a female's role is to appeal as a candidate for reproduction by appearing as most physically and emotionally attractive as possible to prove that they can give birth to successful offspring

its just how nature works

in a different alternate universe from ours, where females impeginate males, I'm sure you would get your wish


You have a very poor understanding of nature if you think the sexes really boil down to just that. That's not science you're quoting. It sounds much closer to ideology.


It's the abused layman's notion of evolutionary psychology, used in forums the Internet over to "prove" that someone doesn't have to think seriously about gender issues, because it's all biology.   It's about as related to science as social Darwinism is to Darwinism.


yes yes, because women create sperm and men give birth

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Dave of Canada wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

Saibh also you're paranoia about Femhawke is insane, we haven't seen any high res shots of her and the little we've seen she seems to look normal.


She seems to look exactly like Bethany, Aveline and your character's mother.


So every female in the game has the same Model?

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NKKKK wrote...

Saibh also you're paranoia about Femhawke is insane, we haven't seen any high res shots of her and the little we've seen she seems to look normal.


You know, I had respect for you up until you called me insane. We have seen the mom, and we have seen Bethany in HQ, and both share the same model. It's difficult to tell with Aveline, but it appears to be her, too.

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It's not a great shot--I readily admit that--but why shouldn't I say anything? I have ample reason to believe that that figure is the same for all women--or most women without a unique character model--and I want to make my feelings known on the subject.

Besides that, I did see Hawke throughout the day, but this is the only one I bothered to cap. Most of the time I tried to get shots that her face was visible.

Modifié par Saibh, 04 septembre 2010 - 05:21 .


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Don't try to bring expertise or precise knowledge to internet forums. It backfires every time after the opposition inevitably drags you down to their level after their aggressive ignorance weakens your ability to restrain your frustration.

And before you know it, you're posting sarcastic cat pictures.


Best to quit before that happens.



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yes yes, because women create sperm and men give birth


There are matriarchial societies in our own history and comparable behaviour in the animal kingdom.

Modifié par Russalka, 04 septembre 2010 - 05:22 .


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If all the male models are same and all female models are same then it just reeks of laziness especially considering they would all be built like the Hawke's. The PC's should have unique body models

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Sorry for double posting, but do you have proof MS?


From the people who've demoed the game, I've heard Bethany, her mother and the female companion all have the same chests. This leads me to believe that's the standard body model for fems. Plus we already know Bioware likes to keep one model per gender and species.

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I just had a thought: what if the large boob female models are only in Varric's exaggerated version of events, and when the story goes back to the way things really happened, the boobage is toned down??? That would actually be amazing.

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Really and you insult people who don't mind he breasts because of a blurry screen-shot. And they seem like C-cups to me.

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I just had a thought: what if the large boob female models are only in Varric's exaggerated version of events, and when the story goes back to the way things really happened, the boobage is toned down??? That would actually be amazing.


Already proven wrong. Bethany wears tattered robe in the most infamous screenshot. And mother and Avelline don't even appear at first.

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From the people who've demoed the game, I've heard Bethany, her mother and the female companion all have the same chests. This leads me to believe that's the standard body model for fems. Plus we already know Bioware likes to keep one model per gender and species.





So cry objectification because of what some people said, a screenshot, and Bioware's laziness?




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Russalka wrote...

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yes yes, because women create sperm and men give birth


There are matriarchial societies in both our own history and comparable behaviour in the animal kingdom.


notable exceptions of societies that I know of:

ants, bees, wasps, termites, spiders (males exist to be eaten), amazoness, and some other old mayan cultures where women are equals

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TeenZombie wrote...

I just had a thought: what if the large boob female models are only in Varric's exaggerated version of events, and when the story goes back to the way things really happened, the boobage is toned down??? That would actually be amazing.


That would actually be awesome.