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Count Viceroy wrote...
Dave of Canada wrote...
Dragon Age has built up to be a realistic RPG, they even gave rotten teeth to add more to that detail.
They've just gone on and made a huge deal about them switching visual style to give it more impact, no doubt the redesign of the women is part of that.
relhart wrote...
Aristorum wrote...
Because then women become Mary Sues. And Mary Sues are not compelling or engaging characters. Both physical and mental flaws lead to a more (dare I say it) emotionally engaging. How can a player connect to a virtually perfect character? I want my Hawke to be a dbag with a big nose. I want my femHawke to be buff and capable of ripping off an ogre's head. I don't want some model-esque femmy princess walking in and somehow felling an army of darkspawn with no visible muscles and two jugs just flailing off her chest.Deathispink wrote...
But why can't we be strong, capable, AND have large breasts?
Jeebus Zombie Christ, big ****** does not a Mary Sue make. In fact they are a flaw when it comes to physical combat.
Saibh wrote...
Your willing suspension of disbelief isn't hurt--but you're a guy.
And DAO was not a fantasy game? Or does making the female model an EE instead of a D make it more of a fantasy game than DAO was?Count Viceroy wrote...
Personally I don't care for the big breasts at all, in fact I think it looks silly, but it comes with the territory of a fantasy game and I'm fine with that. I'll just mod in something to my liking later.
Modifié par Addai67, 04 septembre 2010 - 05:14 .
relhart wrote...
Jeebus Zombie Christ, big ****** does not a Mary Sue make. In fact they are a flaw when it comes to physical combat.
Saibh wrote...
Deathispink wrote...
But why can't we be strong, capable, AND have large breasts?
First of all, I'm fine with the model existing, but it's a very rare and very idealized model that doesn't belong on every single woman. I would prefer a medium, if you would.
Second of all, there's large, and then there's that. That's not D-Cup large, that's like, EE cup large. Or more. Ivy-freaking-Valentine large.
Third of all, large breasts on a thicker frame that wasn't built to support them cause back problems, as well as makes it difficult to be active. Running with C-Cups can hurt without proper support. That looks painful.
Fourth of all, really, you've never seen that hourglass on any other female fighter in video game history? This is not a rare thing--just the opposite.
No you didn't.Dave of Canada wrote...
SithLordExarKun wrote...
So you're basically saying a girl with a nicely shaped rack is unrealistic in a fantasy game?
*I covered your elf example above*
In a medival world where silicone and growth hormones didn't exist in meat products, having EE sized breasts would almost be physically impossible with that waist line.
Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 04 septembre 2010 - 05:16 .
I meant more along the lines of "large breasts are an attractive and sexy trait that somewhat diminish Hawke as a character in the regards that Hawke is less flawed." And I won't even try to imagine warrior Hawke trying to swing a two handed sword with those knockers in the way. It's not a flaw. It's just silly.relhart wrote...
Aristorum wrote...
Because then women become Mary Sues. And Mary Sues are not compelling or engaging characters. Both physical and mental flaws lead to a more (dare I say it) emotionally engaging. How can a player connect to a virtually perfect character? I want my Hawke to be a dbag with a big nose. I want my femHawke to be buff and capable of ripping off an ogre's head. I don't want some model-esque femmy princess walking in and somehow felling an army of darkspawn with no visible muscles and two jugs just flailing off her chest.Deathispink wrote...
But why can't we be strong, capable, AND have large breasts?
Jeebus Zombie Christ, big ****** does not a Mary Sue make. In fact they are a flaw when it comes to physical combat.
Count Viceroy wrote...
It's called artistic liberty, honestly it's not hard to grasp. If Bioware wanted to make an ultra realistic game where everything was like its real life equivalent they'd done it. Woman in fantasy game does not woman in real like make.
Are you trying to say that DAO and DA2 male models look like Arnold Schwarzenegger?SithLordExarKun wrote...
No you didn't.Dave of Canada wrote...
SithLordExarKun wrote...
So you're basically saying a girl with a nicely shaped rack is unrealistic in a fantasy game?
*I covered your elf example above*
In a medival world where silicone and growth hormones didn't exist in meat products, having EE sized breasts would almost be physically impossible with that waist line.
In a medival world wheresilicone and growth hormonesproper nutrition and steroids didn't existin, having
meat productsEE sized breasts18 to 20 inch arms and as big and ripped as arnold schwarzenegger would almost be physically
impossiblewith that waist line.
And by the way, Lady Hawke doesn't have EE cups and its a fantasy game, theres a suspension of belief regarding a ladies rack, its a trivial matter for gods sake. And as far as boobs go, its genetic.
Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 04 septembre 2010 - 05:18 .
Guest_Puddi III_*
Flicker was in Awakenings, and it remains to be the most satisfying ability in the game.filaminstrel wrote...
Well they do seem to be moving away from realism in DA2, what with the whole, rogue Nightcrawler poof attack, warrior lightspeed charge and acrobat swordsmanship, enemy bodies gibbing and leaving stumps behind upon death... people seem to like these changes, though.
Addai67 wrote...
Please, if you say "artistic vision" or the like one more time, I'm going to bust some facial muscles from all the smirking and chortling. Dumbing down and bro'ing out is not "embracing a different standard of beauty" or whatever the hell the marketing jargon was.
Modifié par Count Viceroy, 04 septembre 2010 - 05:20 .
SithLordExarKun wrote...
In a medival world wheresilicone and growth hormonesproper nutrition and steroids didn't existin, having
meat productsEE sized breasts18 to 20 inch arms and as big and ripped as Arnold Schwarzenegger would almost be physically impossiblewith that waist line.
And by the way, Lady Hawke doesn't have EE cups and its a fantasy game
theres a suspension of disbelief regarding a ladies rack, its a trivial matter for gods sake.
And as far as boobs go, its genetic. Its not as if human males suddeunly have a penis that comes out of his anus.
Dave of Canada wrote...
So everybody in Thedas is related? DAMN.
Guest_Puddi III_*
Yeah but they seem to be changing the system in DA2 to give people that kind of satisfaction in every attack. Flicker wasn't really realistic either, but your character in Awakening was also what might be considered "epic level" in D&D terms. I dunno what levels we're working with in DA2.Maverick827 wrote...
Flicker was in Awakenings, and it remains to be the most satisfying ability in the game.filaminstrel wrote...
Well they do seem to be moving away from realism in DA2, what with the whole, rogue Nightcrawler poof attack, warrior lightspeed charge and acrobat swordsmanship, enemy bodies gibbing and leaving stumps behind upon death... people seem to like these changes, though.
Modifié par filaminstrel, 04 septembre 2010 - 05:23 .
Count Viceroy wrote...
It's called artistic liberty, honestly it's not hard to grasp. If Bioware wanted to make an ultra realistic game where everything was like its real life equivalent they'd done it. Woman in fantasy game does not woman in real like make.
That was the point, zooming overhead just now.relhart wrote...
Aristorum wrote...
Because then women become Mary Sues. And Mary Sues are not compelling or engaging characters. Both physical and mental flaws lead to a more (dare I say it) emotionally engaging. How can a player connect to a virtually perfect character? I want my Hawke to be a dbag with a big nose. I want my femHawke to be buff and capable of ripping off an ogre's head. I don't want some model-esque femmy princess walking in and somehow felling an army of darkspawn with no visible muscles and two jugs just flailing off her chest.Deathispink wrote...
But why can't we be strong, capable, AND have large breasts?
Jeebus Zombie Christ, big ****** does not a Mary Sue make. In fact they are a flaw when it comes to physical combat.
Aristorum wrote...
And I won't even try to imagine warrior Hawke trying to swing a two handed sword with those knockers in the way. It's not a flaw. It's just silly.
) who was, umm, 'well-endowed' if she had 'problems' when she was practicing (she was a fencer. Epee, I think). If memory serves, she did seem to indicate that she didn't have any problems. Maybe the plastic chest protector thingy female fencers wore help? *shrugs*
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