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#176
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Dave of Canada wrote...

Your character's mother too, Aveline has a pretty bad angle in the picture but if you saw her ingame she apparently has the same and Fem Hawke (from what we've seen on the stream today) also has it. The only female character with smaller breasts (from what we've seen) is Flemeth and she has her own custom model.


Unless there are more screen shots of the mother, the one that I saw was at a pretty bad angle to really tell. But if anyone should have large breast it's a mother anyway. As well I've seen nothing but blurred pictures of fem hawke.

Anyway, cloths that Bethany is in does not mean the character model looks that way. Just the cloths. You can stick those cloths on any character and they'll have breasts just like that. With that said, every female in the game could very well look like that. But maybe they don't. You can't tell from just that set of clothing.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Fan service needs to die a bloody and painful death


We'll kill it with fire.
Can we kill the diapers too?

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...
Fan service needs to die a bloody and painful death

Hear, hear!

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yukidama wrote...

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How about a compromise?


I'm not sure why people think that package is the male equivalent to boob size. I don't know any woman personally who looks for absurdly large bulges in a man. :blink:


Fine. Better?
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:o

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Crippledcarny wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Your character's mother too, Aveline has a pretty bad angle in the picture but if you saw her ingame she apparently has the same and Fem Hawke (from what we've seen on the stream today) also has it. The only female character with smaller breasts (from what we've seen) is Flemeth and she has her own custom model.


Unless there are more screen shots of the mother, the one that I saw was at a pretty bad angle to really tell. But if anyone should have large breast it's a mother anyway. As well I've seen nothing but blurred pictures of fem hawke.


But if Beth has big boobs and Momma has big boobs and that random chick you just met has big boobs, it stands to reason that's the standard character model for fems, right?

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Saibh wrote...

Miranda has a reasonable figure--I mean, idealized and woah day-um that catsuit--but her body is evenly proportioned.

As every Mass Effect and Chuck fan knows, Miranda was voiced and modeled after Yvonne Strahovski, a practice BioWare should adopt more often (modeling characters after real people).

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Lord_Valandil wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Fan service needs to die a bloody and painful death


We'll kill it with fire.
Can we kill the diapers too?


Not bloody enough

Preferable suffocate with diapers, put in an Iron Maiden and then put gasoline around it and light it on fire.  Then Nuke it, its the only way to be sure.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Fan service needs to die a bloody and painful death


I volunteer to deliver the finishing blow.

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Lord_Valandil wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Fan service needs to die a bloody and painful death


We'll kill it with fire.
Can we kill the diapers too?


We have a Gaider confirmation of diapers' death by fire. I will assume this to mean also sexy lingerie birth by virgin.

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Maverick827 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Miranda has a reasonable figure--I mean, idealized and woah day-um that catsuit--but her body is evenly proportioned.

As every Mass Effect and Chuck fan knows, Miranda was voiced and modeled after Yvonne Strahovski, a practice BioWare should adopt more often (modeling characters after real people).


I'm against that practice personally. It tends to create too much uncanny valley, especially when you've watched television / movies with the modeled person in question.

Edit: Such was the case with Yvonne due to watching a few episodes of Chuck. :P

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 04 septembre 2010 - 05:47 .


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Maverick827 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Miranda has a reasonable figure--I mean, idealized and woah day-um that catsuit--but her body is evenly proportioned.

As every Mass Effect and Chuck fan knows, Miranda was voiced and modeled after Yvonne Strahovski, a practice BioWare should adopt more often (modeling characters after real people).


I knew that was her face and voice. I always blink twice at pictures I see her in, because it's just so weird. Has anyone Shopped her and Vanderloo together?

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Dave of Canada wrote...

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So you're basically saying, its OK for a fantasy to depict Men as large and as shredded as a champion bodybuilder despite the fact that in medival times, there wasn't proper nutrition nor the necessary drugs to stay and getTHAT shredded and at the same time big along.


But how is this "shredded"?

Concept Art:
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Ingame:
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Yes, look at concept art that does not display muscularity and then subsequently post a screenshot of him wearing an armor(No wonder competitive bodybuilders DONT wear clothes during a competition).


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Firstly, the bodybuilder on the right(yes, i DO know who he is) sports 18-19 inch arms, secondly look at the "arm to head" ratio and compare that to hawkes, yes, like it or not, hawke DOES have massive arms.(The size is there, but the measurements are approximates)

Very releastic to have 18-19 inch arms in a medival setting where proper nutrition for bodybuilding doesnt exist eh? Along with having a very symmetrical physique that shows very good muscle seperation.


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Yes, its releastic for men like hawke to sport 18 inch arms and subsuquently display great symmetry and muscle seperation where proper bodybuilding nutrition doesn't exist in such times.

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It's a stupid and juvenile trend that does not help with game sales




Indeed it is. Stupid and juvenile. The help with sales part was purely hypothetical.



Maybe you've been running the porn mod so long that you've forgotten this.




Oh, which mod is that? I'd like to try, thanks. I've been following the discussion, don't worry.



Guys, you can have your fanservice. Miranda has a reasonable figure--I mean, idealized and woah day-um that catsuit--but her body is evenly proportioned. Morrigan wears a scarf and two eyepatches over each nipple. You can have your fanservice, and it need not be at the expense of the female character model. We can have our average figure, or somewhat better than average figure, and you can have your fan service.




Problem is, this is all a moot point as long as companies favor playmate bodies for some reason (I still think it has to do with fan feedback, but again, it's hypothetical).

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yukidama wrote...

Anarya wrote...

yukidama wrote...

How about a compromise?


I'm not sure why people think that package is the male equivalent to boob size. I don't know any woman personally who looks for absurdly large bulges in a man. :blink:


Fine. Better?
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O.O

Pink-chan Approves +75

#190
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Saibh wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Fan service needs to die a bloody and painful death


We'll kill it with fire.
Can we kill the diapers too?


We have a Gaider confirmation of diapers' death by fire.


I'm a happy man now, and I shall sleep peacefully tonight.
Gaider, you're my hero. Thanks Saibh.

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SDNcN wrote...

Aristorum wrote...

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But why can't we be strong, capable, AND have large breasts?


Because then women become Mary Sues. And Mary Sues are not compelling or engaging characters. Both physical and mental flaws lead to a more (dare I say it) emotionally engaging. How can a player connect to a virtually perfect character? I want my Hawke to be a dbag with a big nose. I want my femHawke to be buff and capable of ripping off an ogre's head. I don't want some model-esque femmy princess walking in and somehow felling an army of darkspawn with no visible muscles and two jugs just flailing off her chest.


So because a female character has large breasts and isn't incompetant, she must be a must be someone's mary sue? Thats pretty presumptuous.

Having big breasts doesn't preclude someone from being strong or competant. If you want to argue that it would be a hinderance in combat or would be unrealistic in a medival setting, fine. But there are a number of ways Dragon Age (or any other IP) deviates from reality and that would be another thread in of itself.

That said I understand why people want smaller sizes for female characters, but there is no reason to assume larger cup sizes = lesser character.

I'm saying larger breasts aren't practical or plausible for a warrior, and their presense can suggest that this character might be a Mary Sue.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Miranda has a reasonable figure--I mean, idealized and woah day-um that catsuit--but her body is evenly proportioned.

As every Mass Effect and Chuck fan knows, Miranda was voiced and modeled after Yvonne Strahovski, a practice BioWare should adopt more often (modeling characters after real people).


I'm against that practice personally. It tends to create too much uncanny valley, especially when you've watched television / movies with the modeled person in question.

Edit: Such was the case with Yvonne due to watching a few episodes of Chuck. :P


Meh, I thought Andy Serkis did fine and looked fine in Heavenly Sword.  Its just that the Miranda model looks like ****

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MariSkep wrote...

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DAMN you are so smart. All i said was a boobs size is related to a girls genetics, that doesn't mean all girls are related if they have large rack.


More reading comprehension failure.

More troll failure.

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Maverick827 wrote...
As every Mass Effect and Chuck fan knows, Miranda was voiced and modeled after Yvonne Strahovski

Only her face was, their bodies are completely different.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Fan service needs to die a bloody and painful death


We'll kill it with fire.
Can we kill the diapers too?


Not bloody enough

Preferable suffocate with diapers, put in an Iron Maiden and then put gasoline around it and light it on fire.  Then Nuke it, its the only way to be sure.


And bring a priest. Don't forget a priest.
Exorcism may be necessary.

#196
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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Fan service needs to die a bloody and painful death


Yes, it only gets in the way of a good story, sometimes turning people off of the story altogether.

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SithLordExarKun wrote...

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I mean this in the least inflammatory way possible, but those pictures are terrible.  I can barely see anything reliable due to the poor quality and mismatched positions.

Modifié par Maverick827, 04 septembre 2010 - 05:50 .


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Ortaya Alevli wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Women do exist in real life. In real life, those proportions are very, very rare. (I've never met a woman with those proportions naturally. Big boobs, sure. Small waist, sure. That big and that small? Never, but there's always a first.) I can compare those figures with real life and say, hey, that's not right! Your willing suspension of disbelief isn't hurt--but you're a guy. For a lot of girls, they are more attuned to that sort of issue and are affected by it. We compare it in real life and find it unrealistic. Not a fantasy, unrealistic.


It *is* a fantasy. It's just not a women's fantasy. But I guess that's in line with your take on the issue anyway.

Gamers prefer their characters to look good. For the most part. Now, if gigantic breasts helped with sales and fanbase so far (as in DOA), it's not really a surprise BioWare would follow the same route.

Or maybe them guys in BioWare just wanted to create models as they wished. I'd respect that.

And if they presented us with A cups instead, I'd be like "screw respect, wtf is up with flat chests." But that's beside the point.


Now why on earth do people think that Bioware needs to put in large breasts in order to make good game sales? Why not average sized breasts proportionate to the body? I highly doubt many people are going to complain that a C cup is too small.

Women do play this game, too. Many of us dislike the Pamela Anderson standard for every female character. In fact, many men do, too.

Modifié par CrookedAsylum, 04 septembre 2010 - 05:50 .


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SithLordExarKun wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...
DAMN you are so smart. All i said was a boobs size is related to a girls genetics, that doesn't mean all girls are related if they have large rack.


More reading comprehension failure.

More troll failure.


You lost the thread. You shouldn't pull out 'troll' unless you've got one in your claws, ripe for the killing. It's like calling him Hitler.

"You know who else didn't like big boobs? HITLER!"

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Dave of Canada wrote...



Just because you think it's trivial doesn't make it so,

Just because you think it's not a trivial doesn't make it so,

Dave of Canada wrote...
it wasn't "trivial" when a thread managed to reach 75 pages before being locked of people overall being against it. You wouldn't be troubled by people against these gigantic breasts unless you wanted them, what harm would you get if they got shrunk down? Would you lose eye-candy? Would it make you sad? :(

There's a difference between wanting them, and being ok with having them. I happen to be the latter genius.

What harm would you get if they didn't got shrunk down? Would you lose eye-candy? Would it make you sad? :(


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Every woman in Thedas has a "large rack", you said it's genetic. 1 + 1 together =...



Yep, that includes Morrigan, Flemeth, Lelianna and every women in DAO. Smart.