Stompi wrote...
Flemeth is certainly very good at manipulating people and has problably more knowledge and power than any other Origins character. She is definiately very selfish and willing to use people to achieve her goals. I think the simple term "evil" is not enough to define her. There is more to her character and I'm really looking foward to learn more about her.
Stompi wrote...
Flemeth is certainly very good at manipulating people and has problably more knowledge and power than any other Origins character. She is definiately very selfish and willing to use people to achieve her goals. I think the simple term "evil" is not enough to define her. There is more to her character and I'm really looking foward to learn more about her.
Hmm she was closenightcobra8928 wrote...
maybe she's a highdragon that shapeshifts into a human
Count Viceroy wrote...
Pretty much this, from what we've seen, we can describe her as selfish, nothing more.
Ayanko wrote...
"Why do you think Flemeth appeared as a frail old woman? And not in a more powerful form?.....she has her Reasons."~David Gaider.
She's up to something.
Vandicus wrote...
Count Viceroy wrote...
Pretty much this, from what we've seen, we can describe her as selfish, nothing more.
Really? Murder of random innocent civilians doesn't strike you as evil, just selfish? So a man who buys a semi-automatic and opens up on a crowd of random people in front of a supermarket is not evil, just selfish?
In the Stolen Throne, Flemeth's house has a gruesome collection of corpses of innocent non-templar men. Dannon is the only one that is named, but the bodies were from a camp of people persecuted by the Orlesians. Dannon was killed for irritating Flemeth with his impoliteness while he was fleeing the Orlesians.
Vandicus wrote...
Count Viceroy wrote...
Pretty much this, from what we've seen, we can describe her as selfish, nothing more.
Really? Murder of random innocent civilians doesn't strike you as evil, just selfish? So a man who buys a semi-automatic and opens up on a crowd of random people in front of a supermarket is not evil, just selfish?
In the Stolen Throne, Flemeth's house has a gruesome collection of corpses of innocent non-templar men. Dannon is the only one that is named, but the bodies were from a camp of people persecuted by the Orlesians. Dannon was killed for irritating Flemeth with his impoliteness while he was fleeing the Orlesians.
Modifié par Count Viceroy, 04 septembre 2010 - 09:42 .
nightcobra8928 wrote...
Vandicus wrote...
Count Viceroy wrote...
Pretty much this, from what we've seen, we can describe her as selfish, nothing more.
Really? Murder of random innocent civilians doesn't strike you as evil, just selfish? So a man who buys a semi-automatic and opens up on a crowd of random people in front of a supermarket is not evil, just selfish?
In the Stolen Throne, Flemeth's house has a gruesome collection of corpses of innocent non-templar men. Dannon is the only one that is named, but the bodies were from a camp of people persecuted by the Orlesians. Dannon was killed for irritating Flemeth with his impoliteness while he was fleeing the Orlesians.
maybe she needed something from those corpses, out of necessity rather than just for the sake of it.
Modifié par Vandicus, 04 septembre 2010 - 09:46 .
Count Viceroy wrote...
Vandicus wrote...
Count Viceroy wrote...
Pretty much this, from what we've seen, we can describe her as selfish, nothing more.
Really? Murder of random innocent civilians doesn't strike you as evil, just selfish? So a man who buys a semi-automatic and opens up on a crowd of random people in front of a supermarket is not evil, just selfish?
In the Stolen Throne, Flemeth's house has a gruesome collection of corpses of innocent non-templar men. Dannon is the only one that is named, but the bodies were from a camp of people persecuted by the Orlesians. Dannon was killed for irritating Flemeth with his impoliteness while he was fleeing the Orlesians.
It all depends on hown you define selfish, forr all we know, these people came too close, knew too much, killing them is a matter of self preservation, ie selfishness, not evil.
Vandicus wrote...
Yes, perhaps the World Trade Center terrorists were given a message by God that there were two nuclear devices built into the center of the towers, that were going to be used to wipe out all mankind.
Sure.
Vandicus wrote...
The Fereldan refugees were just passing through(more like running) with the Orlesians hot on their heels. Flemeth felt they weren't properly deferential, so she killed them all.
Count Viceroy wrote...
Vandicus wrote...
Yes, perhaps the World Trade Center terrorists were given a message by God that there were two nuclear devices built into the center of the towers, that were going to be used to wipe out all mankind.
Sure.
Wow, you'd have to look pretty hard to finda more flawed argument than this.
Count Viceroy wrote...
Vandicus wrote...
The Fereldan refugees were just passing through(more like running) with the Orlesians hot on their heels. Flemeth felt they weren't properly deferential, so she killed them all.
No, they were leading the oresians straight to flemeth. I'd killed them too.
Vandicus wrote...
The other guy's arguement was that there was some unknown legitimate reason to kill random civilians. The WTC bombing was killing of random civilians. Why not speculate wildly on that if you're going speculate on other random killing sprees?
Vandicus wrote...
Count Viceroy wrote...
Vandicus wrote...
Yes, perhaps the World Trade Center terrorists were given a message by God that there were two nuclear devices built into the center of the towers, that were going to be used to wipe out all mankind.
Sure.
Wow, you'd have to look pretty hard to finda more flawed argument than this.
The other guy's arguement was that there was some unknown legitimate reason to kill random civilians. The WTC bombing was killing of random civilians. Why not speculate wildly on that if you're going speculate on other random killing sprees?
Count Viceroy wrote...
Vandicus wrote...
The other guy's arguement was that there was some unknown legitimate reason to kill random civilians. The WTC bombing was killing of random civilians. Why not speculate wildly on that if you're going speculate on other random killing sprees?
I'd say there is legitmate reasons for killing 'civilians' in this context, I don't see however how the comprassion to 9/11 is relevant in any sense. One is a terrorist attack where as the other is a simple matter of self preservation.
nightcobra8928 wrote...
Vandicus wrote...
Count Viceroy wrote...
Vandicus wrote...
Yes, perhaps the World Trade Center terrorists were given a message by God that there were two nuclear devices built into the center of the towers, that were going to be used to wipe out all mankind.
Sure.
Wow, you'd have to look pretty hard to finda more flawed argument than this.
The other guy's arguement was that there was some unknown legitimate reason to kill random civilians. The WTC bombing was killing of random civilians. Why not speculate wildly on that if you're going speculate on other random killing sprees?
the things is, we don't have enough info to know anything about her motives.
so speculating is pratically all you can do at this point.
Modifié par Count Viceroy, 04 septembre 2010 - 09:57 .
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Just to be clear: There are NEVER any legitimate reasons to kill civilians. None. Zip. Nada.
Modifié par Count Viceroy, 04 septembre 2010 - 10:01 .
Count Viceroy wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Just to be clear: There are NEVER any legitimate reasons to kill civilians. None. Zip. Nada.
Everything is relative, who and what falls under the category of civilians is a matter of perspective.
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