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[Vandicus]

Tokion wrote...

Actually we know extremely little about Flemeth from what we were given in DAO. I always thought she was super powerful being who lived for thousands of years, but given that how easy it was to kill her in DAO, I always thought that too was part of her scheme.

She plays a somewhat significant role in "The Stolen Throne", one of the two Dragon Age novels. That gives a pretty good view of her moral character, making her a lot less mysterious.

[Icinix]

Flemeth is the anti - maker



...lulling heroes and grey wardens into false senses of security....

[AlexXIV]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Just to be clear: There are NEVER any legitimate reasons to kill civilians. None. Zip. Nada.

There are always casualties in war. If you really thought that than every soldier or politician involbed with innocent people dying would be what? A murderer?

But back to topic. I wouldn't say Flemeth is evil. She is incredibly dangerous though. It remains to be seen what her plans are but as of now I could imagine my hero to side with her or stand against her, both possible.

[thegreateski]

Flemeth killed her daughters and stole their bodies.



I have a suspicion that this might be evil.

[Ayanko]

I don't trust her at All, But I do trust Morrigan. For reasons I just can't explain.

[Ayanko]

Vandicus wrote...

Tokion wrote...

Actually we know extremely little about Flemeth from what we were given in DAO. I always thought she was super powerful being who lived for thousands of years, but given that how easy it was to kill her in DAO, I always thought that too was part of her scheme.

She plays a somewhat significant role in "The Stolen Throne", one of the two Dragon Age novels. That gives a pretty good view of her moral character, making her a lot less mysterious.

^--Someone Needs to Ask DG What exactly was The wish flemeth asked from him.
I Think he impregnated her to be honest. Looking at how she was an Old woman back then in stolen throne. Morrigan says she rememeber her mother having black hair and looked like herself. Meaning that there must have been a Change in bodies from Between "Stolen Throne" and "The 5th blight". That would Make Morrigan Maric's granchild and some relation to Alistar, ewww incest if you had him do the ritual.

[Pedro Costa]

I don't think Flemeth can be "evil" or "good", she's just your "dark grey" type of character.

Flemeth seems to do whatever she has to do.



If she has to kill civilians for whatever reason, she will.

If she has to save two wardens to end the blight and add the possibility of netting her an old-god grandson/daughter, she won't blink twice.

If she needs an apt refugee to be her errand boy/girl, she'll go save them and give them the package to be delivered.



Sure, Flemeth has a "hidden" agenda, but what it is? It's too soon to say, although I'm almost 100% sure that the over-arching storyline of the DA franchise is closely associated with her and her actions.

If further example to that claim is needed, then suffice to say that if not for her, there wouldn't have been a DA:O after Ostagar nor a Lothering hailing Hawke in Kirkwall.

[Vandicus]

Ayanko wrote...

^--Someone Needs to Ask DG What exactly was The wish flemeth asked from him.
I Think he impregnated her to be honest. Looking at how she was an Old woman back then in stolen throne. Morrigan says she rememeber her mother having black hair and looked like herself. Meaning that there must have been a Change in bodies from Between "Stolen Throne" and "The 5th blight". That would Make Morrigan Maric's granchild and some relation to Alistar, ewww incest if you had him do the ritual.

Eww. That's just disturbing. I am incredibly curious what Maric was asked, but impregnation is unlikely. Flemeth specifically asked Maric for a promise, which implies something more long term.

[Ayanko]

Vandicus wrote...

Ayanko wrote...

^--Someone Needs to Ask DG What exactly was The wish flemeth asked from him.
I Think he impregnated her to be honest. Looking at how she was an Old woman back then in stolen throne. Morrigan says she rememeber her mother having black hair and looked like herself. Meaning that there must have been a Change in bodies from Between "Stolen Throne" and "The 5th blight". That would Make Morrigan Maric's granchild and some relation to Alistar, ewww incest if you had him do the ritual.

Eww. That's just disturbing. I am incredibly curious what Maric was asked, but impregnation is unlikely. Flemeth specifically asked Maric for a promise, which implies something more long term.

But what? Allowing the Grey Wardens to Return? She knew about the blight, she knew about loghain doesn't this mean she can see into the future? So why didn't she see the warden attacking her or her daughter escaping her glutches?

[Pedro Costa]

Ayanko wrote...

But what? Allowing the Grey Wardens to Return? She knew about the blight, she knew about loghain doesn't this mean she can see into the future? So why didn't she see the warden attacking her or her daughter escaping her glutches?

Perhaps she saw a possible future. Nothing is set in stone.
Perhaps it's even because she can "see" several outcomes of the future that she lends her hand every now and then, and is actually shaping Thedas to the best possible outcome, well, as she sees it.

[BrandonMotz]

Making people think that she is just a frail old woman is part of her plan imo. Would you have helped her if she came in her dragon form claiming to need help? Pfft, do it yourself "old lady".

[Vandicus]

Ayanko wrote...

But what? Allowing the Grey Wardens to Return? She knew about the blight, she knew about loghain doesn't this mean she can see into the future? So why didn't she see the warden attacking her or her daughter escaping her glutches?

Not necessarily. It indicates she may be observing the Darkspawn or be aware of the Architect. She might've judged that the Wardens were necessary to defeat them. This does not mean she is prescient.

[Ayanko]

BrandonMotz wrote...

Making people think that she is just a frail old woman is part of her plan imo. Would you have helped her if she came in her dragon form claiming to need help? Pfft, do it yourself "old lady".

Not really, but I read the books she just never seemed trust worthy to me. The things she told Maric ended up with the two's relationships becoming strained.

[UberDuber]

The moment I met Flemeth I thought she was smokin weed away in that ol hut of hers, proper looney bin

[Ayanko]

Did her new highdragon shapeshift get a redue aswell? I thought all high dragons had the same shape...why is she so special.

Modifié par Ayanko, 04 septembre 2010 - 11:57 .

[Gavinthelocust]

I don't trust anyone who through the transition of my blade in her neck turn from an old man trying to look like an old woman very poorly to smokin hot.

[Ayanko]

She shows Hawke her true powers straight away, was this to strike fear? While to the grey warden she was trying to make a somewhat trust worthy relationship? Either way she looks scary. Even has Morrigans trademark eyes and Feather decoration.

[Gill Kaiser]

She's got her own agenda, and is somewhat of a Magnificent Bastard. I don't think we can say whether she's evil or not until we find out what that agenda is.

[Ayanko]

Sisters? If you don't know your Disney then Ladies and Gentlemen I like to introduce you to maleficent, the darkest Disney Char created. Whose Also a Witch and a shapeshifter, she also likes talking to strange mirrors. And likes ravens/Crows. (Morrigan and New Flemeths Robe decoration anybody?)

Modifié par Ayanko, 05 septembre 2010 - 12:19 .

[ErichHartmann]

I hope we get to "kill" that old hag in DA2, even if it's temporary.

[Ayanko]

slimgrin wrote...

Ayanko wrote...

Sisters? If you don't know your Disney then Ladies and Gentlemen I like to introduce you to maleficent, the darkest Disney Char created. Whose Also a Witch and a shapeshifter, she also likes talking to strange mirrors.

I was going to post this example some time ago but thought better of it.

I think it looks just like her.

[Gavinthelocust]

Ayanko wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Ayanko wrote...

Sisters? If you don't know your Disney then Ladies and Gentlemen I like to introduce you to maleficent, the darkest Disney Char created. Whose Also a Witch and a shapeshifter, she also likes talking to strange mirrors.

I was going to post this example some time ago but thought better of it.

I think it looks just like her.

Nah, new flemeth is a mix between malificent and the evil step mother. Except kinda hot in the "I'm going to lose my man parts trying to have sex with her but worth it" way.

[ninja0809]

Flemeth > Archdemon