1380 réponses à ce sujet

[Gavinthelocust]

thegreateski wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

if a warrior needs to strike at long range. do we have skills to compensate the lack of the archery tree on the warrior?

no.

you're there to tank and swing your sword.

the other 2 classes have both melee and ranged attacks, why can't warriors?

Because they're warriors?



I would not ask the milkman to deliver mail.

I would but it wouldn't be mail as much as a cute term for dirty monkey sodomy.
ANYWAY makes sense even if it still doesn't explain the lack of duel blades.

Modifié par Gavinthelocust, 05 septembre 2010 - 01:42 .

[Count Viceroy]

Lilacs wrote...

How will they improve it for rogues? Rogues in this game suck big time, while they excel in the World of Warcraft.

What? Rogues are fine.

[thegreateski]

Count Viceroy wrote...

Lilacs wrote...

How will they improve it for rogues? Rogues in this game suck big time, while they excel in the World of Warcraft.

What? Rogues are fine.

Don't you mean Rouges?

[Faz432]

Brockololly wrote...

I just liked DW warrior as it was different than your stereotypical sword and board or huge two hander. Again, I don't think the solution to making the classes more unique was to just get rid of choice and classes like the warrior archer or DW. Rather make the DW warrior distinct from a DW rogue- not just parsing things down.
The whole axing of choice and features reeks of ME2 style "streamlining" to me, but I'll of course wait and see what this all looks like whenever we get some gameplay video.

I agree, to make them different they could of gave them different DW skills, not just take it away.

[hexaligned]

Dave of Canada wrote...

relhart wrote...

Well that would be nice if it were true.  Based on the "streaminging" philosiphy the game is going for, it's pure supposition that is in conflict with every thing that has been revealed, at least in terms of gameplay.

They've admit they put a lot more work in each spec, though. They wanted each class to feel like those individual classes and that's why they've put archery / DW into rogues-only. They'd be able to tune it more for the agile fighter instead of trying to make both warriors and rogues do the same thing.

Well I'm not going to knock it untill I try it, DAO had one of the worst class systems I have seen in an RPG, (thank god for mods)  at least as far as my taste for character building goes.  I'm not holding out hope any depth is getting added to the system though.

[Dave of Canada]

Lilacs wrote...

Lol! Really? Try and play a rogue in WoW, then you will see what you are missing. Then comeback and tell me if you still think rogues are "fine" in DAO.

Rogues are fine.

Coming from a level 80 Undead Rogue.

[Count Viceroy]

thegreateski wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

Lilacs wrote...

How will they improve it for rogues? Rogues in this game suck big time, while they excel in the World of Warcraft.

What? Rogues are fine.

Don't you mean Rouges?

Nah, I'm more a fan of noir and vert

[Merlin Dawnweaver]

I think rogues are just right in DAO (try the dex evasion item tank rogue please) but OP in Wow.
(coming from a guy who's regularly exploded by rogues in wow)

Modifié par Merlin Dawnweaver, 05 septembre 2010 - 01:46 .

[Arttis]

Comparing an mmo that features PVE and PVP to a single player game....does not work.

[Dr. wonderful]

thegreateski wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

Lilacs wrote...

How will they improve it for rogues? Rogues in this game suck big time, while they excel in the World of Warcraft.

What? Rogues are fine.

Don't you mean Rouges?

No, Rogue, We are theives...Not makeup.

[Count Viceroy]

Lilacs wrote...

Lol! Really? Try and play a rogue in WoW, then you will see what you are missing. Then comeback and tell me if you still think rogues are "fine" in DAO.

They aren't even comparable, since they are two separate games, balance from one has no bearing on the other <_<

[Immovable Force]

thegreateski wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

Lilacs wrote...

How will they improve it for rogues? Rogues in this game suck big time, while they excel in the World of Warcraft.

What? Rogues are fine.

Don't you mean Rouges?

Lol... haha... People dont do that as much anymore.

This topic begs the real question that if DW is out for warriors is there a third tree or just the two we know now?

[Arttis]

Dr. wonderful wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

Lilacs wrote...

How will they improve it for rogues? Rogues in this game suck big time, while they excel in the World of Warcraft.

What? Rogues are fine.

Don't you mean Rouges?

No, Rogue, We are theives...Not makeup.

Wait my rogue never learned to pickpocket....unless you count looting corpses and tasking things out of chests that do not belong to me....then all my character were theives.

[nightcobra]

Gavinthelocust wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

if a warrior needs to strike at long range. do we have skills to compensate the lack of the archery tree on the warrior?

no.

you're there to tank and swing your sword.

the other 2 classes have both melee and ranged attacks, why can't warriors?

Because they're warriors?



I would not ask the milkman to deliver mail.

I would but it wouldn't be mail as much as a cute term for dirty monkey sodomy.
ANYWAY makes sense even if it still doesn't explain the lack of duel blades.

anyway, even if we don't get long range attacks for warrior at least allow the charge skill to really close the distance between us and our enemies

[Arttis]

Lilacs wrote...

HECK yes, in WoW! Ditto here, too, I have a lvl 80 and loving it. In DAO, rogues suck!

You want more DoTs?

[Dynamomark]

Lilacs wrote...

HECK yes, in WoW! Ditto here, too, I have a lvl 80 and loving it. In DAO, rogues suck!

By "suck" you mean they are not as powerful as other classes or just not as fun to play as in WOW?

Edit: nevermind, the above post answered my question.

Modifié par Dynamomark, 05 septembre 2010 - 01:49 .

[Count Viceroy]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

anyway, even if we don't get long range attacks for warrior at least allow the charge skill to really close the distance between us and our enemies

I believe it was mentioned at gamescon that warriors do have a skill smilar to charge in wow that you can use to close the gap quickly.

[Kail Ashton]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Indeed, most of you are right in your suppositions.

Removing dual wield specialization from warriors allowed us to not only make the classes more distinct, but to make the dual wield attacks all distinctly rogue-ish. A warrior in plate mail being fast with two daggers I could handle, but flipping and rolling into attacks? That didn't make sense. So, we could either have boring, vanilla dual-wield anims, or we could make them for rogues and deliver lithe, acrobatic combat for a class that should be just that.

So....anychance you can retroact this into origins so my city elf girl rogue will be more awesome?

Otherwise i'm perfectly fine with thise choice

Modifié par Kail Ashton, 05 septembre 2010 - 01:51 .

[Merlin Dawnweaver]

Why not give warrior throwing weapon as a replacement tree ? a tree that allow warrior to chug axes, spear and half a chair at his enemies sound like fun.