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Unused The 13th: Fire Walk With ME


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#51
kregano

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glacier1701 wrote...
 My point in my original post was not about the 'HH' hit dialog but more on the lines of how much was planned to be in the game (and hinted at over the course of development) and then got axed at some point. I understand that these things always happen but the amount that seems to have gone on in ME2 seems, from the current info we fo have, to be far and away more than other games. I doubt we'll ever get a comment from BioWare on this but I do really feel that they had a lot more problems internally (from all causes) that meant a watered down version of ME2. Yes choices had to be made but considering who most probably made those choices and the remarks made since release quality was sacrificed in almost every choice made to get ME2 out the door. Had Firewalker been kept, had the Shadow Broker mission been kept, had there been more freedom in character recruitment progression I would say that much of the critisism would have been avoided.

IIRC, the Bioware devs pretty much built ME2 from scratch since ME1 was built pretty badly, which is why we only got 2 DLCs for it. They kept the game engine and some stuff that they could use, like character models, ships, and some of the gun models, and scrapped everything else. In doing so, they managed to correct most of the technical flaws of ME1 and they added some new ones, but over all ME2 is the better product.

Modifié par kregano, 06 septembre 2010 - 04:18 .


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Burdokva

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Yet, despite having a lot less DLC the original feels more like a complete game than the somewhat chopped-up, quickly finished Mass Effect 2.

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Maybe they cut Manuel from Firewalker because they decided they didn't want Dr. Cayce and Manuel to be the same person.



They probably figured they could use Manuel in a different role, say as a character we meet in ME3. It'd be a nice throw back to ME1, especially if Shepard has a flashback to the conversation with Dr. Warren and Manuel on Eden Prime.



Since it was cut, I'd say Dr. Cayce is NOT Manuel from Eden Prime. Just like how the dialogue was cut announcing the death of Barla Von and Executor Pallin(whom is confirmed to be alive and still an Executor in Retribution).

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Doctor_Jackstraw

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wow not sure why they removed all of that, would have probably made a better impression on reviewers of ME2's earlier dlc to have more squad dialogue and linked events. Finding out that he's the dude from me1 would have totally made me grin at firewalker.

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I'm with LPPrince- sometiimes,they cut key bits of this stuff to avoid a blatant retcon later. Manuel might not be dead.

TMA LIVE wrote...
Like in ME1, where the enemies keep saying "I WILL DESTROY YOU! I WILL DESTROY YOU!"


"ENEMY IS EVERYWHERE!"
"Hold the line!"
"ENEMY IS EVERYWHERE!"
"Hold the line!"
"ENEMY IS EVERYWHERE!"
"Hold the line!"

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 14 septembre 2010 - 08:07 .


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Valmarn

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Good ol' Zaeed.

And thanks, it really is a shame they cut out so many connections to the first game.



Dito...

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Zhijn

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/edit uh old topic is old. still i didnt know about this. xD

Holy crap, Manuel!.
Would have been great to have seen some sort of flashbacks of what happen to Manuel and the others.

What a shame and waste. =(

Modifié par Zhijn, 09 octobre 2010 - 12:58 .


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.........darn.
Would've liked to have seen that ME1 connection.

Modifié par Brodyaha, 09 octobre 2010 - 01:01 .


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shengar

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Damn Bioware........Really a waste on good potential, really. Poor Manuel