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[xZitx]

She was the only reason my Hawke stood by the mages. When asked, my Hawke always said things like: "They are not all like that." or "There are good mages, too." because of her! And in the end I sided with the mages to protect my little sister Missed her most of the game, though as I had her with me for act1 the whole time.

[bigbade]

I'm playing through the final act right now...she just makes everything so much easier. This game would have gone up 2 rating points on every website if it had more bethany

[Lestatman]

bigbade wrote...

I'm playing through the final act right now...she just makes everything so much easier. This game would have gone up 2 rating points on every website if it had more bethany

Agreed.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed that she'll appear in a future dlc or expansion.

[bigbade]

Yep, a sibling dlc is sorely needed. I think asking for a Bethany only DLC is out of the question seeing as Carver seems to be more popular ( ) but a sibling one would please both parties.

[DuskWanderer]

Question: If Bethany is a Circle Mage and you side with the Templars, what happens to her?

[bigbade]

The game crashes and a pop up message tells you that you are a terrible,terrible (repeat) person.

Seriously though, I haven't done it so I can't be 100% sure on this but I've read that she only sides with you if you side with the Mages if she's part of the Circle.

[Alexein]

Bethany gives hugs!



:wub:

I would cut down kirkwall, ferelden and the fade for more hugs

[dewayne31]

Lestatman wrote...

bigbade wrote...

I'm playing through the final act right now...she just makes everything so much easier. This game would have gone up 2 rating points on every website if it had more bethany

Agreed.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed that she'll appear in a future dlc or expansion.

i hope if we play hawke da3 and survived the game that she is a full companion. the hawkes kicking the chantry's rear end would be awesome

Modifié par dewayne31, 22 mars 2011 - 05:01 .

[Wulfram]

Grey warden Bethany is awesome

[danteliveson]

DuskWanderer wrote...

Question: If Bethany is a Circle Mage and you side with the Templars, what happens to her?

She can be killed if you allow Meredith to do so.

[Sarah1281]

Maybe. Still, between Origins and this they make the Wardens such raging ****s that I'll never be able to let Bethany go with them.

[bigbade]

I started a mage playthrough and barely just got out of the conversation with Bartrand / Varric, I already miss Bethany.

For those who played both the circle mage and warden ending, which do you feel was the best one for her?

I also took pics of Bethany in action but my graphics are only on medium, ah well I'll put them up later anyways



awesome.

Modifié par bigbade, 22 mars 2011 - 06:23 .

[Alexein]

Do what i did and mod the game so bethany is back in your party even though you're a mage (if you look at my screenshot hawke is a mage).

It screws up the game a little but bethany is so worth it.


Anyway, as for the endings, with warden ending she'd come back and side with you no matter what. But her personality is so cold that she's not the same bethany i loved, her sweet innocence was ripped from her. It actually made me sad seeing how much she changed.

Circle bethany only helps you out if you side with the mages, although if you side with the templars and spare her life she'll help you out against meredith. But in terms of story, she keeps more of her personality (especially when you side with the templars and she just about cries).

So because i like her for her character rather than her ability to melt faces, i go for the circle ending more often.

Modifié par Alexein, 22 mars 2011 - 06:23 .

[Sarah1281]

The Circle is pretty horrible but it's only six years while Bethany will be a Warden forever and doomed to die a horrible death in 20-30 years. The Wardens have also been shown to allow templars to 'keep an eye on' mage Wardens meaning that she's really not free of them there (and if the templars lose the war then non-Warden Bethany will also be free of them). They are shown to not let recruits even keep pets because it will make them 'soft.' They are shown to outright tell recruits they'd be better off dying horrible, painful deaths from darkspawn corruption. They are shown to not even allow the new Warden's family to find out if they survive even when they're in the same city and should be able to drop a freaking letter. There's 'let go of your ties to your former life' and then there's being a dick for no reason.

[bigbade]

yea I noticed your character looked very mage-ey, that would explain it. What mod is that?

I had her be a grey warden on my first playthrough but I don't think that's the one that I'm going to be importing into any future dlc/game/whatever because I messed up a couple times.I mean Bethany even died my first time so I reloaded back as far as I had which was ....very well before the deep roads. Circle it is next time then!

I also noticed that in Varric's exagerrated intro, Bethany is wearing Circle Robes while Carver is in warden armor, which means thegrandiose tale probably would have it be that way anyways.

Also if you side with mages how early on in the act do you get Bethany? Is it at the same time as the Warden one (randomly in the street) or at some point in the actual tower? Cause her ability to melt faces is extremely useful.

Modifié par bigbade, 22 mars 2011 - 06:29 .

[Sarah1281]

You get her once you reach the Tower.

[bigbade]

I see, thanks. I guess 5-10 mins of less Bethany is sufferable for a better outcome
I feel like there needs to be more Bethany banners.. I'm not feeling the ones on the front page, they're not bad but I dunno if I like that color scheme. 

Modifié par bigbade, 22 mars 2011 - 06:34 .

[Alexein]

I think i'll photoshop my screen shot into a motivational poster subtitled: "Bethany says you need a hug."

... although i'll probably use a default hawke to make it more general.

Anyway, as for the mod to be a mage.

You simply open the console and use the zz_dae_debug script to put your dead sibling back in the game. Your living sibling will still be in the house and the key plot points (talking to batrand) will be with the living sibling, but some of the quests conversations and party banter will still trigger with whatever sibling you have in your party.

Things start to break when you go into the deep roads. if you leave both siblings behind then *bethany* is seen carted off to the circle and carver is still active. To fix this i used the console again to manually flag that carver joined the templars. Then put circle bethany back in my game.

I then played act 2 and 3 with circle Bethany (who says nothing since there is no programming for her). Even though she was a mute she still melt faces for me, (granted i was a mage so i did most of the face melting). Interestingly enough, even though carver is still alive, Bethany still triggers some of the sibling specific quests in act 2 and 3.

Thats how i'm able to hug bethany even though carver is supposed to be my living sibling.

[bigbade]

When you say circle Bethany, she's also wearing those robes right? I really like the intro / act 1 robes she has, I think I like her 3 outfits the most with Sebastian's armor as a slightly distant 2nd and fenris being zee 3rd. I thought they said somewhere that over the years companions would change clothes but apart from Aveline that wasn't very true...unless you romance them / complete ander's quest

I sense outfit dlcs incoming, much like me2's

[Alexein]

yeah i got bethany  with her circle robes in act 2/3!

:wub:

I haven't tried keeping her old outfit, but i think its possible.

Modifié par Alexein, 22 mars 2011 - 07:49 .

[bigbade]

would actually look nice if I could run this at higher graphics >:|

[duckphone07]

I feel ashamed to have Bethany be in my signature. 

I finished my first playthrough of DA2 a few days ago.  I played a mage, so I still have barely any idea what Bethany is like.  I got a pretty good feel of Carver however, and that part of the storyline was very interesting in my playthrough.  My prediction of him earlier on in this thread kind of held true.  :happy:

I shall start a second playthrough as either a rogue or warrior soon and then I will be able to experience Bethany's storyline.  My impression of the sibling dynamic from my first playthrough is that it is very interesting to see how your sibling evolves.  Out of all your companions, I would say the sibling changes quite a bit throughout the years, well, at least Carver did.  It was interesting to see him sort of forge his own future, but still tragically end up "in Hawke's shadow".  This aspect of the Carver relationship was very unique and interesting.  Especially since my mage and him were rivals.  He became a Grey Warden, and I became the Champion.  But even he admitted that he still felt lower than me.  It was rather tragic. 

I am excited for :wizard:Bethany's:wizard: story because I see it being a different take on the sibling dynamic.  I shall come back and discuss her evolvement/involvement (Or lack thereof), when I finish my second playthrough. 

[Lestatman]

Alexein wrote...

Do what i did and mod the game so bethany is back in your party even though you're a mage (if you look at my screenshot hawke is a mage).

I'm so jealous as I'm playing on my PS3 and have no way of modding it as I would do exactly what you've done.

[Alexein]

Lestatman wrote...

Alexein wrote...

Do what i did and mod the game so bethany is back in your party even though you're a mage (if you look at my screenshot hawke is a mage).

I'm so jealous as I'm playing on my PS3 and have no way of modding it as I would do exactly what you've done.

awwww...

Bethany says you need a hug!

[bigbade]

I don't remember if she hugs as a grey warden.. don't think so.

she does say somethin about being your sister and not a warden though so +5