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[duckphone07]

bigbade wrote...

I will try my hand at a new banner sometime soon since no artists seem to be stepping up

I would if I knew how to do it. 

[Lord Zeuss]

Alexein wrote...

I modded the game and put Bethany back in.

Surprisingly most of the game still functions perfectly well since there are no real conflicts with having two mage siblings. Even Bethany's dialog (like the feyneriel quest) still triggers. Just the specific parts, like when you talk to bartrand, or go home to gamlen's house, requires that carver be in.

Yeah, I didn't really get why there needs be one--and only one--mage in the Hawke family. We were told "the story won't necessarily make sense" if/when people mod the game to have both siblings survive.

[Alex475]

Alexein wrote...

I modded the game and put Bethany back in.

Surprisingly most of the game still functions perfectly well since there are no real conflicts with having two mage siblings. Even Bethany's dialog (like the feyneriel quest) still triggers. Just the specific parts, like when you talk to bartrand, or go home to gamlen's house, requires that carver be in.

That's awesome... Add the option to punch Carver in the face and make him cry like a little girl, every time you go back home, and it's the best mod for DA2 lol. Too bad that mod to keep her is PC only right... It would be cool two mages playthrough, mages and rogues are the best classes in DA2.

Modifié par Alex475, 24 mars 2011 - 12:47 .

[Sarah1281]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

Alexein wrote...

I modded the game and put Bethany back in.

Surprisingly most of the game still functions perfectly well since there are no real conflicts with having two mage siblings. Even Bethany's dialog (like the feyneriel quest) still triggers. Just the specific parts, like when you talk to bartrand, or go home to gamlen's house, requires that carver be in.

Yeah, I didn't really get why there needs be one--and only one--mage in the Hawke family. We were told "the story won't necessarily make sense" if/when people mod the game to have both siblings survive.

I don't think it was about that. They just wanted to give you a sense of losing something by killing off a sibling to start off with. Since one's a mage and one wasn't, they gave you a mage and a warrior/rogue plus Aveline to start the game off. What should they have done? Asked you which sibling you wanted to keep? 

Anyway, I was thinking about Bethany's letter from the Circle. She mentions Ser Alrik by name as someone that creeps her out and she's staying away from. She also mentions one of the apprentices she's mentoring and who really likes her...Ella. Odds on this being the same Ella Ser Alrik was perving on and that Justice almost killed in Dissent? I don't know why they'd name-drop otherwise and they don't usually repeat names like that.

[Alexein]

:wub::wub:

Modifié par Alexein, 24 mars 2011 - 04:41 .

[xZitx]

Beautiful scene. BETHANY& SISTERHAWKE FOREVER <33

[Nyxia]

xZitx wrote...

Beautiful scene. BETHANY& SISTERHAWKE FOREVER <33

This!! Not enough hugs in the game I must say!
I'm a sucker for family love and Bethany is just wayyyy~~ too cute!

Someone should make a mod where whenever you click on Bethany a hug scene would trigger, d'awww...

[Alexein]

YES!

And we should spam the hugs motivational poster whenever a thread gets heated, to showcase the awesome power of Bethany to make everything better

[dewayne31]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

Alexein wrote...

I modded the game and put Bethany back in.

Surprisingly most of the game still functions perfectly well since there are no real conflicts with having two mage siblings. Even Bethany's dialog (like the feyneriel quest) still triggers. Just the specific parts, like when you talk to bartrand, or go home to gamlen's house, requires that carver be in.

Yeah, I didn't really get why there needs be one--and only one--mage in the Hawke family. We were told "the story won't necessarily make sense" if/when people mod the game to have both siblings survive.

I don't think it was about that. They just wanted to give you a sense of losing something by killing off a sibling to start off with. Since one's a mage and one wasn't, they gave you a mage and a warrior/rogue plus Aveline to start the game off. What should they have done? Asked you which sibling you wanted to keep? 

Anyway, I was thinking about Bethany's letter from the Circle. She mentions Ser Alrik by name as someone that creeps her out and she's staying away from. She also mentions one of the apprentices she's mentoring and who really likes her...Ella. Odds on this being the same Ella Ser Alrik was perving on and that Justice almost killed in Dissent? I don't know why they'd name-drop otherwise and they don't usually repeat names like that.

i remember her saying something about ser alrik. but nothing bout ella gottas look that up again. hmm that is interesting were they purposing setting up dissent. i hope we can bethany in a dlc or da3 bout her and ella

Modifié par dewayne31, 24 mars 2011 - 04:13 .

[Lestatman]

It's frustrating that everytime I go to select my team Bethany is there in her Warden outfit blacked out. If Bioware didn't want us to have her in our group why torture us with her there. I'd be happy to pay Bioware to release a patch where you she comes back early and you can have her in your group to my hearts content. I know it would mean getting the voice actor back in and writing scripts but damn its such torture not being able to select her.

[dewayne31]

Lestatman wrote...

It's frustrating that everytime I go to select my team Bethany is there in her Warden outfit blacked out. If Bioware didn't want us to have her in our group why torture us with her there. I'd be happy to pay Bioware to release a patch where you she comes back early and you can have her in your group to my hearts content. I know it would mean getting the voice actor back in and writing scripts but damn its such torture not being able to select her.

unless they fiture plans for her in our group. i wondered bout that doesn't much sense. i mean anders let in acr 2 he disappeared from the group selection is i remember right

[Nyxia]

Lestatman wrote...

It's frustrating that everytime I go to select my team Bethany is there in her Warden outfit blacked out. If Bioware didn't want us to have her in our group why torture us with her there. I'd be happy to pay Bioware to release a patch where you she comes back early and you can have her in your group to my hearts content. I know it would mean getting the voice actor back in and writing scripts but damn its such torture not being able to select her.

I know the feeling!! She's the best mage in the game imo, she has both creation and destruction spells.
That's why they took her away from Hawke I think, force us to use the other mages.

I'm torn. I wanna try to get my LI kidnapped in my game just for fun, but then I don't wanna do another mage playthrough and I don't wanna let Bethany die either.

Random picture of Bethany smiling. Don't you just wanna poke those cheeks?

Modifié par Nyxia, 25 mars 2011 - 07:01 .

[Aeducan Himself]

I'd poke her... cheeks, yes.

[Nyxia]

Aeducan Himself wrote...

I'd poke her... cheeks, yes.

You--you, you....
I don't even wanna end my sentence.

[dewayne31]

I was just playing thru act 1 again on what i think will be my canon and i heard Bethany say something bout fire and ice. i got thinking if they give her a special tree in the future i hope it enchances her fire and ice tree

[Alexein]

I'd be happy just to have her PERMANENTLY!
I'd sacrifice all my other companions just to keep in my party.

hmmmm... maybe that can be a way to retcon her death.... Mage-hawke finds a blood-magic ritual to restore her to life... (starts hatching evil maniacal plan involving the blood of thousands of slaves, muahahah!)


BTW another pic:



:wub::wub::wub:

Modifié par Alexein, 25 mars 2011 - 04:13 .

[SilentK]

I'm playing my first Hawke with Bethany now and she is so sweet =) love my little sis. Haven't gotten so far into the game but when she says something like that we need status, power or money to hide behind I feelt so much for her. My poor little sis always being afraid and trying to hide. Hope that I'll get to see her again in DA3 =)

[Cypher0020]

Gah, I'm working my way towards the deep roads on my new warriorhawke...

I dunno if she wants to let Beth come with or not....

circle or wardens? I hate both options....

[Aeducan Himself]

So I started a mage playthrough to get the achievement for using all three classes and maybe find out what Carver is like, but... oh Maker, never again. I couldn't handle the ogre scene as a mage.

[dewayne31]

Aeducan Himself wrote...

So I started a mage playthrough to get the achievement for using all three classes and maybe find out what Carver is like, but... oh Maker, never again. I couldn't handle the ogre scene as a mage.

yea i know...just torn me up

[Lestatman]

Nyxia wrote...


Random picture of Bethany smiling. Don't you just wanna poke those cheeks?

Don't you just so want to hug her.

[bigbade]

Alexein wrote...

Oh my god... A+++

[Alex475]

Lestatman wrote...

Nyxia wrote...


Random picture of Bethany smiling. Don't you just wanna poke those cheeks?

Don't you just so want to hug her.

I think I'm done with DA series after this game, and just stick with ME. I was disappointed with so many things with DA2, the most annoying thing is not to be able to change anything, and on a BioWare game? The best character in game, better even than the main character and she gets locked away "if not dead" for pretty much 98% of the game, WTH...

[Alex475]

I want a Bethany specific DLC, one that she comes back very angry and kill all the DA2 writers for killing her mother and for keeping her out of the entire game(pretty much). I would pay big bucks for it, maybe than, the next DA might have a chance to be cool...

[Alexein]

Alex475 wrote...

I think I'm done with DA series after this game, and just stick with ME. I was disappointed with so many things with DA2, the most annoying thing is not to be able to change anything, and on a BioWare game? The best character in game, better even than the main character and she gets locked away "if not dead" for pretty much 98% of the game, WTH...

I agree, i think it was an overall bad/wasteful move on bioware's part.

THey probably spent a thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars making her. Her body, design, voice acting, programming her combat AI code, her facial expressions and everything in between. A whole character isn't cheap. They take the time to get us emotionally invested only to lock her away again for 2/3 of the game.

Would it have honestly cost so much more to extend her presence fully? They already spent a jackload just to get her started, why not use her fully?

The simple debug mods show that her programming code is fully functional throughout all the game. the only add on would have been a little more voice acting for party banter and maybe quest related comments. No need to give her another personal quest, we love her enough already.

They could have even had some variation with it: Dead bethany is dead, so we get all emotional and heartbroken. Warden bethany doesn't come back until act 3 but comes back as a bad ass epic-face-melter that shoots fireballs from her eyes, and lightning bolts out her boobs. And circle bethany is always with us but her "home base" is the gallows and we get templars blowing smoke up our ass everytime we borrow her.

But instead, bioware wasted money... to make us feel bitter and cheated..... in bussiness spending money to make things worse is called: "a bad move"


Same thing with carver, i don't like him but a lot of other players do and it was still probably just as costly to make him as it was to make bethany. He's also wasted money.

Honestly i'd PAY for a DLC that extends the usefulness of Bethany/Carver to more than emotional fridge stuffing.