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#151
Bryy_Miller

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Rakumn wrote...

Antaress wrote...

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Are Bethany and Hawk blood relatives ? if they are its sad :(
couse I would love to romance her


Barring a twist in the tale, they are siblings.


there is still room for incest romance (LOL):ph34r:


I cringe at the relization that some people are being serious with this.


You know what thread was awesome in its disgustingness? Before people knew that changing Hawke's skin color changes his entire families, they were saying how they were going ot make Hawke black, and then it would be okay, for he was obviously adopted.

I'm rather sick in the head for thinking that the various loopholes of Bethany Romance are hilarious.

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I don't think it's that disturbing. More amusing.

Bethany isn't any of our sisters. She's Hawke's. And since players who get way too involved in their characters live through them vicariously, to them it's not like Hawke is sleeping with Bethany, they are sleeping with Bethany.

It's why people say "I romanced Liara" (though I'm guilty of using that phrasing sometimes) instead of "My Shepard romanced Liara." Though the latter is more accurate, the former is more insightful when it comes to how people feel about LIs.

The reason it is amusing is that the potential "get-around-incest" theories reveal just how little people making them care about the idea of roleplaying, at the very least how it takes a backseat to their vicarious romance of an attractive virtual woman.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:22 .


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Ortaya Alevli

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I support Ma Hawke romance.

Yeah, my Hawke will be a complete mother****er.

I wonder if any of those "lmao bethany romance ftw" folk would fancy banging their own sister in real life.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

I don't think it's that disturbing. More amusing.

Bethany isn't any of our sisters. She's Hawke's. And since players who get way too involved in their characters live through them vicariously, to them it's not like Hawke is sleeping with Bethany, they are sleeping with Bethany.

It's why people say "I romanced Liara" (though I'm guilty of using that phrasing sometimes) instead of "My Shepard romanced Liara." Though the latter is more accurate, the former is more insightful when it comes to how people feel about LIs.

The reason it is amusing is that the potential "get-around-incest" theories reveal just how little people making them care about the idea of roleplaying, at the very least how it takes a backseat to their vicarious romance of an attractive virtual woman.


or if their sister is banging them.....


okay lock the thread... I wasn't all that serious, but as I said in the middle ages, the royals maried cousins and the dark ages it could be assumed that a whole village was related to each other... won't even touch the stone age, bronze age and all points forgotten.

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Males + Internet + Females = omg

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steelfire_dragon wrote...
okay lock the thread... I wasn't all that serious, but as I said in the middle ages, the royals maried cousins and the dark ages it could be assumed that a whole village was related to each other... won't even touch the stone age, bronze age and all points forgotten.


Whom royals married had a lot more to do with political necessity and/or the function of creating heirs than social acceptability or sexuality.

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If you like Beth, for the love of god, play a Warrior or a Rogue.

If you want to see her get smashed into paste, play a mage.

Modifié par Vicious, 10 octobre 2010 - 10:19 .


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Just some fan art. My take on Bethany

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Modifié par NoAngel89, 11 octobre 2010 - 06:58 .


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I dunno but I think she might not last as long in the game as we would hope. From some of the comments the Devs have said she may not play as big a role in the game as we think. In other words she probably dies horribly.

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Lurklen wrote...

I dunno but I think she might not last as long in the game as we would hope. From some of the comments the Devs have said she may not play as big a role in the game as we think. In other words she probably dies horribly.


probably like merril in awakening, they play her off as a companion, then uhh....... oh..., shes dead o_O that was quick XD lol, well not really, felt alittle screwed there, just alittle<_<

Modifié par NoAngel89, 11 octobre 2010 - 07:37 .


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Lurklen wrote...

I dunno but I think she might not last as long in the game as we would hope. From some of the comments the Devs have said she may not play as big a role in the game as we think. In other words she probably dies horribly.


from the dev comments she can either be very important, mildly important, or not important at all

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

Lurklen wrote...

I dunno but I think she might not last as long in the game as we would hope. From some of the comments the Devs have said she may not play as big a role in the game as we think. In other words she probably dies horribly.


from the dev comments she can either be very important, mildly important, or not important at all


yeah dev are said to give false info at times to keep fans guessing, and they don't want to real too much, which is understandable...... nobody likes being told an ending to a story. So not too much info on characters, like to be surprised in that aspect

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If Bethany dies half an hour into the game, I'm flying to Canada to give them a what for.

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Ortaya Alevli wrote...

If Bethany dies half an hour into the game, I'm flying to Canada to give them a what for.


lol if that happens, it be a pointless drama, having a character die already, that we didn't even formed a attachment with. Still who knows

Modifié par NoAngel89, 11 octobre 2010 - 11:11 .


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NoAngel89 wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Lurklen wrote...

I dunno but I think she might not last as long in the game as we would hope. From some of the comments the Devs have said she may not play as big a role in the game as we think. In other words she probably dies horribly.


from the dev comments she can either be very important, mildly important, or not important at all


yeah dev are said to give false info at times to keep fans guessing, and they don't want to real too much, which is understandable...... nobody likes being told an ending to a story. So not too much info on characters, like to be surprised in that aspect


Well it's understandable and I like it that way, I'd rather not go into the game knowing who to strip naked just to sell their gear later on, on my later playthroughs Jory's comments about Morrigan's roasting pot being warmer than the Kocari Wilds are a lot more amusing.  I would like to know a fair bit about each characters personality but nothing about their plot involvement, however I think we have a lot to learn about Bethany in that respect, or more likely everything to learn.

With regard to the Bethany/Carver possible choice ala Virmire, whilst on the first playthrough you would be hard pressed to miss the deceased character, It would make their absence more keenly felt if you made the opposite choice the second time.

Great artwork NoAngel89, added to OP.

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Bobad wrote...

NoAngel89 wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Lurklen wrote...

I dunno but I think she might not last as long in the game as we would hope. From some of the comments the Devs have said she may not play as big a role in the game as we think. In other words she probably dies horribly.


from the dev comments she can either be very important, mildly important, or not important at all


yeah dev are said to give false info at times to keep fans guessing, and they don't want to real too much, which is understandable...... nobody likes being told an ending to a story. So not too much info on characters, like to be surprised in that aspect


Well it's understandable and I like it that way, I'd rather not go into the game knowing who to strip naked just to sell their gear later on, on my later playthroughs Jory's comments about Morrigan's roasting pot being warmer than the Kocari Wilds are a lot more amusing.  I would like to know a fair bit about each characters personality but nothing about their plot involvement, however I think we have a lot to learn about Bethany in that respect, or more likely everything to learn.

With regard to the Bethany/Carver possible choice ala Virmire, whilst on the first playthrough you would be hard pressed to miss the deceased character, It would make their absence more keenly felt if you made the opposite choice the second time.

Great artwork NoAngel89, added to OP.


ah thank you bobad, much appericated ^_^

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I thought it wasn't so much that devs give out false info, it's that they make no effort whatsoever to correct people's preconceptions. Because it isn't their job, and because it would be a slippery slope. They'd have to comment on and clarify everything.

I wouldn't count Mhairi as a counterexample either, the fact she fails the Joining despite her initial importance was good storytelling, though it is somewhat cheapened by the fact quite literally everyone else who has to go through it in Awakenings succeeds.  Plus, nothing they say in her character bio on the website is false:

When Mhairi was a child, she was enraptured by tales of kings and nobles. All she wanted was to be like them, to fight for what she believed. Betrothed to a trader when she turned 16, she saw the life that lay ahead of her and enlisted in the army instead. Her fierce loyalty and devotion to Ferelden earned her the love and respect of her commanders and brothers-in-arms. King Cailan's betrayal and death hit Mhairi hard, and when she learned of the two Grey Wardens who quelled the Blight almost single-handedly, she vowed to serve the Wardens. When the call came for volunteers to help rebuild the order at Vigil's Keep, Mhairi jumped at the chance to join.


Just to cover all my bases.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 12 octobre 2010 - 03:13 .


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I'm gonna make my Hawke the "mess with my sister and you're dead" type of brother.

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M8DMAN wrote...

I'm gonna make my Hawke the "mess with my sister and you're dead" type of brother.


Im sure Bethany would love that :D:P

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I'd certainly rather see Bethany making her own choices, even if they are ones with which I wouldn't necessarily agree, I look forward to playing with the family relation as a dynamic rather than simply guiding her in all situations like some kind of eye candy automaton.

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NoAngel89 wrote...

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

If Bethany dies half an hour into the game, I'm flying to Canada to give them a what for.


lol if that happens, it be a pointless drama, having a character die already, that we didn't even formed a attachment with. Still who knows


Um Mhairi anybody?    Wasted....           
The joining with Jory and Daveth was sweet the first time I saw it though.

Bobad wrote...

I'd certainly rather see Bethany making her own choices, even if they are ones with which I wouldn't necessarily agree, I look forward to playing with the family relation as a dynamic rather than simply guiding her in all situations like some kind of eye candy automaton.


I agree with this.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

I thought it wasn't so much that devs give out false info, it's that they make no effort whatsoever to correct people's preconceptions. Because it isn't their job, and because it would be a slippery slope. They'd have to comment on and clarify everything.

I wouldn't count Mhairi as a counterexample either, the fact she fails the Joining despite her initial importance was good storytelling, though it is somewhat cheapened by the fact quite literally everyone else who has to go through it in Awakenings succeeds.  Plus, nothing they say in her character bio on the website is false:


With Mhairi Bioware, whether it was marketing or the Devs, created preconceptions about her character by making a full on character vid and bio. Once I played the game it was clear how inconsequential she actually was but Bioware created the impression that she wasn't beforehand.

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Hello guys,
there's some Bethany fanart I got together, though you might like it.
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Modifié par Creid-X, 12 octobre 2010 - 10:50 .


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Great stuff Creid-X, added to OP.

I just had a quick look at the wiki and it now says that Bethany is Carver's twin, hadn't heard that before or is it just a wiki editor having a laugh?.

I have a sneaking suspicion that if they are twins there might be a greater chance of Bethany/Carver choice to be made, or then again perhaps not.
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EDIT: With regard to the wiki and accuracy and such, I do rather love the last sentance here, eloquently describing Carver's supposed demise.
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Modifié par Bobad, 12 octobre 2010 - 11:52 .


#175
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Creid-X wrote...

Hello guys,
there's some Bethany fanart I got together, though you might like it.
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Great Picture :wizard::wizard: