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[Rheinlandman]

So, I replayed ME2 to get ready for the Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC and I got to thinking.  Miranda says because of her genetic engineering she we will longer than most humans.

So because of Shepard being pumped full of nanites and have cybernetic modification all over (heart) how much longer do you think he will outlive the normal human? 

Could he be nigh immortal with all that work done?

[epoch_]

He's a reaper so, I dunno... forever?

[nikki191]

while its possible shepard could have an extended life span, my shepard will be retiring to a enclosed habbitat near the normandy crash site

[Fiery Phoenix]

She's going to live until all evil has been halted... or not?

Seriously, though, I often wonder if ME3 will have an ultimate sacrifice ending (in addition to other endings), similar to how it's done in DA. But I don't see that happening, for some reason.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 05 septembre 2010 - 05:02 .

[ELE08]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

She's going to live until all evil has been halted... or not?

Seriously, though, I often wonder if ME3 will have an ultimate sacrifice ending (in addition to other endings), similar to how it's done in DA. But I don't see that happening, for some reason.

Oh man, I would really hate it if they went the ultimate sacrifice route like DA where there really isn't really a happy ending no matter how you cut it.  That's part of why I don't really have any interest in going back to play DA again.

I doubt Shep is immortal, and since 'longer than most humans' is pretty vague, who knows.  People live to about 150 in Mass Effect times, so at least as long as that.

[fongiel24]

I think it's possible that Shepard might actually have a shorter lifespan than the average human. Upgrades are mentioned, but it's never determined what these upgrades are. Upgrades which boost performance might not necessarily result in longevity. There's often a tradeoff between short term high performance and long life. For example, American professional athletes generally have a life expectancy 10 years lower than the general population.

Considering Cerberus is engineering Shepard for a suicide mission, I doubt they'd install upgrades intended to help him live to 300. Even if he survives the Collector mission, the coming conflict with the Reapers should be resolved within the next 30-40 years (this is an extremely generous estimate). Any upgrades installed by Cerberus (or Shepard later on the Normandy) would likely be geared towards performance (such as increased muscle mass, stronger lungs, etc.).

Miranda, by comparison, would have been engineered towards a compromise between longevity and performance. Her father would have designed her with longer term objectives in mind, unlike Cerberus with Shepard. As a result, in terms of physical abilities, Shepard and Miranda are likely both significantly improved over unaugmented humans but Shepard is probably the stronger of the two.

Modifié par fongiel24, 05 septembre 2010 - 06:07 .

[Shelondias]

Shepard's running on an old AMD Athlon 64 processor- Lazarus project was over budget after all.

[RGFrog]

well, considering that the poison he drank on Omega didn't was neutralized and same poison killed all the other human targets... I'd say he'll live as long as the machines keeping him repaired stay active and functioning.

This could mean Cerberus has a kill switch, but Miranda was pissed that he didn't have a control chip, so that's unlikely.

However, an EMP pulse could easily kill his machines. At which point, I'd give him a week.

[Rheinlandman]

I'd think they have some sort of EM shielding in the future

[NuclearBuddha]

At least long enough to finish ME3, probably.

[Icinix]

until the end of ME3 where he takes his reaper modified body to sacrifice himself to take out all the reapers.

[Cypher0020]

I thought normal life.... like another poster said.... what upgrades? lungs? heart? muscles? we Shep's eyes are fake...which is creepy enough.....and we know he/she can be hacked via Overlord....



I think... I don't want to know what those upgrades are or how long I have to live..



with shep's line of work.....every day is good enough

[jwalker]

ELE08 wrote...

I doubt Shep is immortal, and since 'longer than most humans' is pretty vague, who knows.  People live to about 150 in Mass Effect times, so at least as long as that.

Talking to Liara in ME1, Shepard says "we're lucky if we hit 150". But after all that has happened, he/she has gotten some major mileage out of that already. I'd say less.
Anyways, Shepard dying of old age ? That I can not picture.

[Urazz]

Rheinlandman wrote...

So, I replayed ME2 to get ready for the Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC and I got to thinking.  Miranda says because of her genetic engineering she we will longer than most humans.

So because of Shepard being pumped full of nanites and have cybernetic modification all over (heart) how much longer do you think he will outlive the normal human? 

Could he be nigh immortal with all that work done?

Who knows.  I'm thinking Shepard's lifespan will be extended if he has maintenence checks on his cybernetics.  Since his bones are cybernetically enhanced, he'll probably not really suffer from arthritis so keeping active phsycially will keep him alive for longer.  His organs also have cybernetics in them that enchance them as well so his organs will last longer I think.

The only things I could see shortening his life would be some disease or his cybernetics failing.

Personally, it wouldn't surprise me if he can live to 150 at least with all those cybernetic enhancements.

[RGFrog]

Adept Shep will die first because the biotics will significantly eat away at his squishy parts.

Soldier Shep will die shortly thereafter as he's more likely to take a bullet to the brain than any other shep.

Followed by Vanguard Shep, who will probably die from falling into an abyss after pulling a not so wise charge.

Sentinel Shep will live a normal human life span as his biotics will take away from whatever extended life his upgrades at recreation would have allowed.

Engineer Shep will live the longest since his omni tool is doing the heavy lifting and he's less likely to get killed as a Shep that uses his brain over brawns approach.

[mopotter]

ELE08 wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

She's going to live until all evil has been halted... or not?

Seriously, though, I often wonder if ME3 will have an ultimate sacrifice ending (in addition to other endings), similar to how it's done in DA. But I don't see that happening, for some reason.

Oh man, I would really hate it if they went the ultimate sacrifice route like DA where there really isn't really a happy ending no matter how you cut it.  That's part of why I don't really have any interest in going back to play DA again.

I doubt Shep is immortal, and since 'longer than most humans' is pretty vague, who knows.  People live to about 150 in Mass Effect times, so at least as long as that.

I would also hate it.  One happy ending is all I need.  Just one.  

NO to sending Kaidan to a reaper clone to have sex in order to save the universe, NO to having one of us die to save the other.  NO to everyone dieing to save the universe. Unless they give me my one Shepard and love surviving to grow old together if they chose to do so included in all of the crap endings.

If they do the DA O trick in ME 3 that will be the end of my trust.  I don't even want to think about it, makes my blood pressure go up.

I remember Shepard telling Liara that humans can live till around 150, so with the enhancements I'd add another 50 or 75 years.  

[fongiel24]

Drodjan wrote...

Also, when Miranda says she'll live twice as long as the normal human, does that mean she'll live to be 300? Seriously? Just because of her genes? I have trouble wrapping my head around this, until I realize this is a place where ships teleport and people come back from the dead.

She says "half again as long", not twice as long. That's 50% longer, not 100%. If 150 is considered extra long (the equivalent of our 100), then life expectancy in wealthy nations is probably slightly less, maybe 130 or so. Miranda's life expectancy is probably around 200-230.

Genetic modification could also mean almost anything. She's not limited to the "normal" set of human genes. Genes control everything. If her father tinkered enough with her genes, he could have even given her wings like an angel and multiple organs like a krogan. There's virtually no limit to what can be done with enough genetic tinkering.

[Esbatty]

Long Enough to spawn a full battallion of little shepards. Because hey, s/he is not only an honorary Quarian Ship Captain but also an honoray Krogan Battlemaster (Depending on how you play it). Clan Shepard will rule the Universe!

[Elyvern]

If facial wear and tear is any indication, Default maleshep at least seems to be pushing it. For a 31 year old, he has a crazy amount of wrinkles and crows-feet. Maybe he's not big on facials or derm regeneration, or he doesn't give a damn, but the impression I get and especially if you play renegade and become ala terminator, is this is a guy who has used himself hard.

I tend to agree with fongiel that most of Shep's cybernetic augmentations has to do with performance, and while those individual parts are fine on their own, other organs like lungs, heart, glands are needed to supply energy and blood to sustain the rest of the body and keep it at the performance level of the cybernetic parts. As we have seen from the opening, Shep's heart is his/her original, I won't be surprised if one day, the organic parts just give up from the sheer stress of keeping up.

Besides, in this line of work, it's more than likely Shep will eat a bullet and die than go quietly in the night.

[FsDxRAGE]

probably close to 150

[foolish replica]

 i've always wondered about the extent and use of gene modding in mass effect, between alliance military
gene therapy,civilian mods, and of course miranda. if sheps original military issue gene mods are active?
and combined with his cybernetics? i could see him hittng 150 possibly as far a 180-190. it's definately
an interesting question.