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No female qunari?

Débuté par PARTIMEDWARF , sept. 06 2010 01:03

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 05:21

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This is lame. Why wouldn't they include female Qunari? I was hoping to have one as a teammate.

Existing lore which makes it horrendously difficult for us to catch a glimpse of a Qunari female outside of their native land and especially outside of their predesigned roles in life, perhaps?
Qunari females do not become warriors. As Sten would say, it is just not done. That isn't to say that they aren't capable of such feats, just that their society prevents women from taking up roles that are traditionally reserved for the men.
For those Qunari who choose not to follow traditional society it's possible, but they're pretty much reviled by their brethern.



Lore shmore. They passed up some intriguing story elements here.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 05:44

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:/

Well... This sucks.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 05:51

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Well just bare in mind that Qunarri refers specifically to a member of that race who follows the Qun. So if we didn't have a female member she would have to be a Tal'vahosh due to how regimented the social roles are within the Qun.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 06:26

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Bruddajakka wrote...

Well just bare in mind that Qunarri refers specifically to a member of that race who follows the Qun. So if we didn't have a female member she would have to be a Tal'vahosh due to how regimented the social roles are within the Qun.


Yeah, I wondered about that, but I don't think Dave Gaider would be that...mm...not underhanded, but...not insidious, because he is that...I suppose plain misleading. He sure could be if he wanted to, but I can't recall him ever deceiving us by technicalities.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 06:30

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Lore shouldn't be an excuse when they essentially changed the look of the race, quite drastically too, from the first game.. I mean huge horns?  And if they're willing to change the visual definition of a race, might as well twist the existing lore a bit.. which they have anyway as Sten made no mention of being special in his culture for not having horns etc etc..

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 06:32

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Revan312 wrote...

Lore shouldn't be an excuse when they essentially changed the look of the race, quite drastically too, from the first game.. I mean huge horns?  And if they're willing to change the visual definition of a race, might as well twist the existing lore a bit.. which they have anyway as Sten made no mention of being special in his culture for not having horns etc etc..


Yeah but Sten didn't talk much about the Qunarri period. Hell he flat out refused to most of the time. The most you got for him were occisionally comments during a conversation.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 06:34

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Bruddajakka wrote...

Yeah but Sten didn't talk much about the Qunarri period. Hell he flat out refused to most of the time. The most you got for him were occisionally comments during a conversation.


True, but I still think it would have been a great opportunity for a dramatic and refreshing character..  A Qunari female that has forsaken all of her people in an attempt to do what she wanted, not what her society told her she should do..

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 06:35

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Despite the Qunari themselves would argue that Tal Vashoth don't count as Qunari, I think the term Qunari encompasses the entire race here. Countries/communities deport/expel/banish people all the time. That doesn't make them lose their racial traits or visual features. You saw a female Tal Vashoth, you saw a female Qunari. Appearance wise.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 06:35

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Revan312 wrote...

Lore shouldn't be an excuse when they essentially changed the look of the race, quite drastically too, from the first game.. I mean huge horns?  And if they're willing to change the visual definition of a race, might as well twist the existing lore a bit.. which they have anyway as Sten made no mention of being special in his culture for not having horns etc etc..


They have redesigned the race. If your problem is the horns, I'd say that the evidence of them existed in DAO to begin with, in the form of the ogres.

Personally, I'm glad for it. Sten and some others would go on and on about how different he was, but all it amounted to was him being a tall human with pointy ears.

So, like a really tall elf.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 06:37

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Revan312 wrote...

True, but I still think it would have been a great opportunity for a dramatic and refreshing character..  A Qunari female that has forsaken all of her people in an attempt to do what she wanted, not what her society told her she should do..


This is exactly what I was hoping for. A stoic, and tragic female character. 

Gaider....how could you guys not want to do this?  *shakes fist*

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 06:42

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slimgrin wrote...

Revan312 wrote...

True, but I still think it would have been a great opportunity for a dramatic and refreshing character..  A Qunari female that has forsaken all of her people in an attempt to do what she wanted, not what her society told her she should do..


This is exactly what I was hoping for. A stoic, and tragic female character. 

Gaider....how could you guys not want to do this?  *shakes fist*


Maybe he didn't see the new concept art until it was too late.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 06:42

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Saibh wrote...

They have redesigned the race. If your problem is the horns, I'd say that the evidence of them existed in DAO to begin with, in the form of the ogres.

Personally, I'm glad for it. Sten and some others would go on and on about how different he was, but all it amounted to was him being a tall human with pointy ears.

So, like a really tall elf.


I don't mind the fact that they changed them or took liberties with their appearence in an attempt to make them a bit more unique as a race, I like it as well, as before they were just big grey humans..

I just wish they would have taken the opportunity to make a female, just one even, for DA2, as that type of character could have a plethora of very deeply woven motivations..

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 06:46

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Qunari with horns remind me of Tieflings. Neither good or bad in my mind though.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 06:47

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Revan312 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

They have redesigned the race. If your problem is the horns, I'd say that the evidence of them existed in DAO to begin with, in the form of the ogres.

Personally, I'm glad for it. Sten and some others would go on and on about how different he was, but all it amounted to was him being a tall human with pointy ears.

So, like a really tall elf.


I don't mind the fact that they changed them or took liberties with their appearence in an attempt to make them a bit more unique as a race, I like it as well, as before they were just big grey humans..

I just wish they would have taken the opportunity to make a female, just one even, for DA2, as that type of character could have a plethora of very deeply woven motivations..



You're right, of course. A female qunari would have a unique outlook. But they can't include every imaginable character just because they're different.

Also, I wonder what we're going to see of the Fex.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 06:49

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Revan312 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

They have redesigned the race. If your problem is the horns, I'd say that the evidence of them existed in DAO to begin with, in the form of the ogres.

Personally, I'm glad for it. Sten and some others would go on and on about how different he was, but all it amounted to was him being a tall human with pointy ears.

So, like a really tall elf.


I don't mind the fact that they changed them or took liberties with their appearence in an attempt to make them a bit more unique as a race, I like it as well, as before they were just big grey humans..

I just wish they would have taken the opportunity to make a female, just one even, for DA2, as that type of character could have a plethora of very deeply woven motivations..



I remember reading something about how they were always supposed to look like they do in DA2 but something kept it from being possible which ended up being why Ogre's looked so drastically different then Sten did. And considering all the Qunarri in DAO were basically Sten we didn't really get a good look at them. Hell Armas is Sten without his dreads.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 06:53

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Make her a dlc character, Bioware.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 07:08

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Makes sense. Based on what we know about the Qunari culture, and given that the the Qunari we'll most likely be interacting with in the game will be the spearhead of their invasion force, it would be quite unlikely for that group to include females (and even if it did, it would be such a small number that not actually getting to see any should be expected).

Of course, this would be an entirely different situation if we'd actually visit the Qunari territory and walk through their cities etc, but given that supposedly the game will mostly take place just in Kirkwall and areas close by, I can't really see that happening.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 07:13

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O.O"



Sten isnt a female? I thought she was!



Always thought that females Qunari dont have horns, males do much like Lions; male has mane, females dont.



:P

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 07:16

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ashwind wrote...

O.O"

Sten isnt a female? I thought she was!

Always thought that females Qunari dont have horns, males do much like Lions; male has mane, females dont.

:P


You didn't see the concept art, then? Yes, they have (smaller) horns.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 07:23

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Saibh wrote...

You didn't see the concept art, then? Yes, they have (smaller) horns.


No... I didnt... I am under the impression that Bioware's developers and artist do not work together (most of the time). The artist draws something and the developers do something else usually. :P

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 07:35

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ashwind wrote...

Saibh wrote...

You didn't see the concept art, then? Yes, they have (smaller) horns.


No... I didnt... I am under the impression that Bioware's developers and artist do not work together (most of the time). The artist draws something and the developers do something else usually. :P


I recall them saying that some divergences have been made, but looking between the Destiny trailer, the Qunari Evolved models, and the art, I'd say they're pretty close.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 07:42

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Not a game breaker. Sure, it would've been nice, but oh well.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 01:37

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Hey everyone its partimedwarf i had some problems in signing in again so i had to create a new account sorry my bad and keep on eating nutella:)

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 01:47

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PARTIMEDWARF wrote...

i heard david gaider saying there would be no female qunari in DA2


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The devs better have something that is nothing short of brain-explodingly awesome up their sleeve, because this BLOWS. Big goddamn time.

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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 02:21

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shepard_lives wrote...

PARTIMEDWARF wrote...

i heard david gaider saying there would be no female qunari in DA2


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The devs better have something that is nothing short of brain-explodingly awesome up their sleeve, because this BLOWS. Big goddamn time.


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