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[Quercus]

Edit: double posting.

Modifié par Shiroukai, 06 septembre 2010 - 07:22 .

[Heavenblade]

Shiroukai wrote...

It's sad but true, even though most gamers are 30+.

Like Lethal Injections, Censorship isn't designed to "protect" anyone other than the sensibilities of 30+ soccer moms who are offended by everything.

[Marionetten]

AuraofMana wrote...

And you can dismiss DA:O by having playing two hours of it. There's nothing wrong with that.

True. But there is something wrong with me going on about how the game is nothing but a grindfest when I haven't even played the damn thing. Once more, Dragon Age: Origins has way more filler content than The Witcher does.

AuraofMana wrote...

What you are arguing reminds me of those people who are hooked on some generic Asian MMORPG, and when I confront them with the fact that grinding monsters all day and gaining little or no progress toward the next level is ****ty they come and tell me: "Don't worry, the game gets really good later on. You just have to grind for a month until that happens." <-Yeah, I am not buying that.

Only I didn't think The Witcher was bad from the start. Kaer Morhen had no grinding whatsoever and it certainly did a better job at pulling me in than the mage origin did.

AuraofMana wrote...

Except you can still get all those materials by simply playing the game. It was only a matter of time because you still need to fight those monsters in pretty much every main quest. However, in TW you end up having to go down to the damn sewer, fight monsters, and run back in... rinse and repeat <- NOW THAT IS GRIND.

You may get the materials. The loot system is random. Meaning you have to grind unless you get amazingly lucky. Being a self-proclaimed completionist I'd expect you to be far more annoyed about something like Sophia Dryden's shield. Never did I have to grind that much in The Witcher. But I suppose it makes little sense to expect coherence from someone so obviously blinded by fanboyism.

AuraofMana wrote...

Because you should tell me how I should feel, act, and what I should like.

No, I just expect some level of knowledge on the subject before attempting to discuss it. As you've proven yourself to be completely unknowledgable about The Witcher I really don't understand why you keep yapping about it.

Modifié par Marionetten, 06 septembre 2010 - 07:26 .

[zahra]

Best love scene made by Bioware =









For realsies.

[Pedrak]

zahra:

Garrus makes everything awesome.

Even potentially dangerous cross species love.

Modifié par Pedrak, 06 septembre 2010 - 07:28 .

[Heavenblade]

Garrus was indeed awesome. Too bad I could never play a FemShep long enough to experience much of the romance stuff. Her voice.. argh.

[Dave of Canada]

Calibrations.

[Saibh]

Now, where did that topic go...?



Regardless, I think it's funny people treat the Witcher like it's the second RPG coming, when many of the things about the game that are present in DA2 as well are being faulted in DA2. It's amazing that the same people who say that having a predetermined character means the game will never be good will turn around and praise Geralt of Rivia. Besides that, considering we've gotten one game out of CD Projekt, and you can bet it was heavily inspired by BioWare, I'm not sure they're exactly on the same level.



I'm sorry, I think it's plain silly that people are acting like The Witcher will be the most fabulous thing to come out of cRPG gaming with the one game they have, and can't be bothered to trust BioWare with their many excellent games.



I'm going to get it, and I think it's gonna be pretty good. There.

[Kail Ashton]

slimgrin wrote...

Hey guys, forget about The Witcher. It was just an example that got posted. But you know what? I can't reference any game as an example on this site lest some crazed fanboy gets his panties in a wad and starts telling me how much my taste in games sucks.

It's getting old.

Think it only works on the PC crowd though, i could proberly make up a big thing bout how Final Fantasy is the greatest RPG series in all known existance(lol) and they would just look at me crooked with a "that is not PC! does not compute!"
 
Now i say dragon age 2 will be a better action rpg than diablo 2 & the forums will run red with nerd blood, it really depends on the platform/forums you use lol

As for taseful nudity & such, the ME1 version would be best, yes

[Heavenblade]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Calibrations.

That would make for itneresting DA2 love scenes.

"Hey Aveline... how about we go back to my te--"
"Sorry, not right now. I gotta fix this sword blade before the next battle."

[Heavenblade]

Saibh wrote...

Now, where did that topic go...?

Regardless, I think it's funny people treat the Witcher like it's the second RPG coming, when many of the things about the game that are present in DA2 as well are being faulted in DA2. It's amazing that the same people who say that having a predetermined character means the game will never be good will turn around and praise Geralt of Rivia. Besides that, considering we've gotten one game out of CD Projekt, and you can bet it was heavily inspired by BioWare, I'm not sure they're exactly on the same level.

I'm sorry, I think it's plain silly that people are acting like The Witcher will be the most fabulous thing to come out of cRPG gaming with the one game they have, and can't be bothered to trust BioWare with their many excellent games.

I'm going to get it, and I think it's gonna be pretty good. There.

You are assuming that people are naturally rational. You need to let go of that discredited enlightenment-era philosophy and realize that people, at their core, are insane, two-faced, and make decisions based on emotion rather than logical consistency.

[Dave of Canada]

About the Avatar thing:
Even then, anything sentient that can approve / disapprove shouldn't count as taboo. If a dragon mutant cow thing with a dozen of arms on it's back was capable of saying she wanted you, it shouldn't be taboo.

It should be just plain weird.

[AuraofMana]

Marionetten wrote...
True. But there is something wrong with me going on about how the game is nothing but a grindfest when I haven't even played the damn thing. Once more, Dragon Age: Origins has way more filler content than The Witcher does.

Keep telling that to yourself even though I proved you wrong several times over several posts back.

Marionetten wrote...
Only I didn't think The Witcher was bad from the start. Kaer Morhen had no grinding whatsoever and it certainly did a better job at pulling me in than the mage origin did.

Proof that people have different preferences and opinions. No one here is trying to convert you to think like them. This is a discussion, not a cult indoctrination.

Marionetten wrote...
You may get the materials. The loot system is random. Meaning you have to grind unless you get amazingly lucky. Being a self-proclaimed completionist I'd expect you to be far more annoyed about something like Sophia Dryden's shield. Never did I have to grind that much in The Witcher. But I suppose it makes little sense to expect coherence from someone so obviously blinded by fanboyism.

And there we go with that same rebuttal. It seems like you are all out of logic and just filled with personal attacks. How typical.
It's funny how you speak of grind in DA:O when monsters don't respawn. By your logic, if the random loot system rolls really, really unluckily for you then you just can't beat the quest ever right? Except I am pretty sure those things always drop. Also, it doesn't take hundreds of tries to get that shield. It's not my problem if it does for you.
It's funny how you **** about that shield and then tries to tell me those grind quests are optional and I don't need to do them. So is the god damn shield, so learn to make coherent logic before attempting to speak. It should be bothering me, not you. And I am not bothered by it because it doesn't take hundreds of attempts to get it. This isn't Diablo 2's Hell Meph Run for that Unique.

Marionetten wrote...
No, I just expect some level of knowledge on the subject before attempting to discuss it. As you've proven yourself to be completely unknowledgable about The Witcher I really don't understand why you keep yapping about it.

You've been beating on that dead horse over and over again. You keep projecting this image you have about me on me as if that's true. All you have been saying is that I know nothing about TW without playing it, and then never explain how TW is different from what I claimed it is. All you have been doing is trying to compare the TW with DA:O (and doing a poor job of it because you don't understand the fundamental differences in the quests) and then keep claiming this statement over and over again. Just because you repeat a certain things several times, not providing any information on it still doesn't make it true.

Basically, you don't understand how different these quests you keep trying to compare are. I tried explaining and you just go on to list even more quests for your terrible comparison. You obviously love the hell out of TW, so much that you want to bash DA:O on a Bioware forum, then proceed to call me a Bioware fanboy on a Bioware forum as if that somehow makes you special.
If I really hated TW because it wasn't made by Bioware then I wouldn't commend it on its good aspects. Even though I've repeatedly criticized Bioware on certain games you've still insisted me on being unreasonable. I am beginning to see that you've lost the argument and cannot find any logic to rebuttal, so you resort to personal attacks and attempts to look special.
You are sounding like a broken record so if you have nothing new to say, then just stop posting about this subject.

[AuraofMana]

zahra wrote...

Best love scene made by Bioware =




For realsies.

The Flux music was ruined for me by this scene, that's all I have to say.

[Quercus]

Heavenblade wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Now, where did that topic go...?

Regardless, I think it's funny people treat the Witcher like it's the second RPG coming, when many of the things about the game that are present in DA2 as well are being faulted in DA2. It's amazing that the same people who say that having a predetermined character means the game will never be good will turn around and praise Geralt of Rivia. Besides that, considering we've gotten one game out of CD Projekt, and you can bet it was heavily inspired by BioWare, I'm not sure they're exactly on the same level.

I'm sorry, I think it's plain silly that people are acting like The Witcher will be the most fabulous thing to come out of cRPG gaming with the one game they have, and can't be bothered to trust BioWare with their many excellent games.

I'm going to get it, and I think it's gonna be pretty good. There.

You are assuming that people are naturally rational. You need to let go of that discredited enlightenment-era philosophy and realize that people, at their core, are insane, two-faced, and make decisions based on emotion rather than logical consistency.

A Vulcan uses logics.... they are people too ya know.

[Maverick827]

Heavenblade wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Now, where did that topic go...?

Regardless, I think it's funny people treat the Witcher like it's the second RPG coming, when many of the things about the game that are present in DA2 as well are being faulted in DA2. It's amazing that the same people who say that having a predetermined character means the game will never be good will turn around and praise Geralt of Rivia. Besides that, considering we've gotten one game out of CD Projekt, and you can bet it was heavily inspired by BioWare, I'm not sure they're exactly on the same level.

I'm sorry, I think it's plain silly that people are acting like The Witcher will be the most fabulous thing to come out of cRPG gaming with the one game they have, and can't be bothered to trust BioWare with their many excellent games.

I'm going to get it, and I think it's gonna be pretty good. There.

You are assuming that people are naturally rational. You need to let go of that discredited enlightenment-era philosophy and realize that people, at their core, are insane, two-faced, and make decisions based on emotion rather than logical consistency.

I don't think this is universally true, but it just so happens we are on the internet so......yeah.

[zahra]

slimgrin wrote...

Pedrak wrote...

Garrus makes everything awesome.

Even potentially dangerous cross species love.

I think we can all agree on this. 

QFT

or as Garrus would say : "Scoped and dropped!"

I would rather something short and tasteful rather than dry-humping in granny panties, making weird googly-eyes. The googly eyes weren't even sincere. Insincere googly eyes = you know you're doing it wrong.

[Seifz]

Shiroukai wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

As long as games are 'meant' solely for children, adult content in them will always ruffle someone's feathers. This is why games like ------ and ------ are important, because they push the envelope.



* insert the game of your liking here. I dare not rile the haters any further.

It's sad but true, even though most gamers are 30+.

I very much doubt the accuracy of that claim.  Do you have anything to back it up?

[Pedrak]

Saibh wrote...


Regardless, I think it's funny people treat the Witcher like it's the second RPG coming, when many of the things about the game that are present in DA2 as well are being faulted in DA2. It's amazing that the same people who say that having a predetermined character means the game will never be good will turn around and praise Geralt of Rivia. ì

.

You are right, but I suspect this has something to do with the fact that DAO didn't have a predetermined character, and the origins were, I believe, one of the most loved features in the game. So, in a way, it's understandable that when a sequel takes away something dear to many, disappointment ensues. Whereas TW never had this feature in the first place, so it's not going to be missed.

Also, it's the old problem of the burden of expectations. BioWare is generally (and rightly...) regarded as the king of CRPGs, so, perhaps unfairly, they are looked at with a particularly critical eye, no matter how great their games are. When rookies like CDProjekt come along and actually pull off a -IMHO - very good game, we tend to cut them more slack even though the flaws are there too.

Modifié par Pedrak, 06 septembre 2010 - 07:46 .

[ErichHartmann]

This thread could use some more love.

[Dave of Canada]

AuraofMana wrote...

The Flux music was ruined for me by this scene, that's all I have to say.

This should ruin it more.