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[Nightwriter]

Right, so now I'm bored in a different way and would like some non-trivia type discussion. New discussion thread!

So how many people out there felt emotionally compelled and engaged by the Collectors as an enemy? Did you feel like they were an important and engrossing threat? Did you feel inspired to stop them?

If you were not terribly engaged by them (like me), why not? If you were engaged by them, why so?

[Zulu_DFA]

No.



Because I was busy collecting their thermal clips.

[BloodRaith]

I guess I really wasn't, because of this...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

No.

Because I was busy collecting their thermal clips.

i lol'd
...and because they weren't awfully threatening to me except in the beginning when they killed me...

[Mister Mida]

Considering they had no significant presence in the game I wasn't. I actually forgot about them sometimes when I was doing loyalties and N7's.

[fongiel24]

I feel like I've answered this question before... maybe in some sort of discussion group. I can't quite remember the name of the group, however.



In a word, no. The Collectors aren't great enemies because they're more tools than true antagonists. It's like getting mad at the knife a mugger is using to rob you instead of the mugger.

[Nightwriter]

I wonder what the name of this mysterious group is.

Mister Mida wrote...

Considering they had no significant presence in the game I wasn't. I  actually forgot about them sometimes when I was doing loyalties and
N7's.

This is how I felt.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

not really. mass effect 2 = pure entertainment.

[Nightwriter]

Drodjan wrote...

Haha Nightwriter, I shall attempt to alleviate your boredom. Hmm. Well, I haven't read any of the Mass Effect books or extra content so the Collectors were new to me, and I was drawn in very much actually; like where did they come from, how were they connected to the Reapers, why did they serve them, what was  their origin, why the heck were they collecting anyways, why was Harbringer reluctant to destroy Shepard when the Collectors tried very hard to do just that in the prologue, etc. So in short I did find them an engaging enemy and after Horizon I was really motivated to stop them from attacking more colonies.

Thanks for that answer.

Maybe my feelings were different because I knew about the Collectors months in advance of playing the game. I also feel Saren and the geth had a much better intro. Saren sweeping in and ruining your mission is much more personal.

[ADLegend21]

I started the Mass effect Series with ME2 so I was kinda pressed to get the collectors. when I got to Horizon I was holding down the right triger and saying explitives every other word while killing those damn bugs. (and matched jokers with his while he was running which was mostly directed at him because he was running so damn slow, but then I spoke to chakwas and she said he had the leg disease so I understood why his sprint was Shepard walking.) when i purged the base to preserve the tech I remember saying "That's what you get for messing with Shepard you sons a female dogs". Also I kept trying to go through the omega-4 relay every time i entered the Omega nebula so I was kind of pressed.

[grievous04]

Yes, and No.



Yes because they where taking Human colonists, and they needed to be stopped.

No because they never where an imminent threat. ME2 was about 80% recruting or making people loyal, and 20% fighting the collectors. In Me1, you faught the Geth in every important campaign level. I completely forgot about the collectors a few times because I was too busy making my team happy.

[Nightwriter]

Did anyone else get the sense that the Collectors were nothing more than plot devices meant to occupy our time between the first and last installments?

[fongiel24]

Nightwriter wrote...

Did anyone else get the sense that the Collectors were nothing more than plot devices meant to occupy our time between the first and last installments?

It definitely seems that way. Before ME2, there's never any mention of them. In ME2, they're completely wiped out, meaning there will likely be little mention of them in ME3. They're a MacGuffin enemy.

[Nightwriter]

It's a little disappointing.

[Eber]

I think we were supposed to be excited over the fact that they were protheans. Shepard makes a big deal out of it, not clear why. We already knew from Horizon that a reaper (Harbringer) was calling the shots and using the collectors as puppets so what specific race they used to be seemed like a moot point.

[ADLegend21]

I thought so on my first me1 import. But then again you're facing a differentreaper which had different resources (his agent didn't really have a mind of it's own like Saren) and it seem like something only Harbinger had, like oyu're own band of insectoid mercs plus they work through agents of their own show up then vanish and don't leave a trace.

[fongiel24]

I'm kinda hoping the Collectors make a return in ME3, that Shepard only managed to destroy one of several Collector outposts. At least that way they won't feel like such a throwaway enemy. I was quite disappointed that after TIM talked about hitting the "Collector homeworld", the "Collector homeworld" turned out be nothing but a space station defended by one ship.

[MisterDyslexo]

It felt like a chore fighting them. Also we learned nothing about them, they could've even been free from Reaper control the whole time. I'm hoping they return in ME3 to resolve some answers

[Nightwriter]

I'm really not interested in seeing them unless a lot more is done with them. Making them all mindless was kind of a mistake imo. Mindless enemies are not interesting. Actually speaking to a Prothean-turned-Collector who was struggling with indoctrination would have been better.

[Zulu_DFA]

Nightwriter wrote...

Did anyone else get the sense that the Collectors were nothing more than plot devices meant to occupy our time between the first and last installments?

90% of ME2 was that way. The only thing ME2 really added to the trilogy's story is the character of TIM, and maybe the "true" Geth. Everything else was a filler and gameplay. But I believe it's been beaten to death already a couple of times.

[Zan51]

After Horizon, the Collectors seemed a remote threat as I was totally absorbed in getting the team together and doing their loyalty missions. Even the ones I did for TIM didn't have, like ME1 did, a constant enemy presence. Had the Collectors created lures or ambushes on planets that TIM sent me to, it would have been better.

We're told the Collectors went to planets and traded with them for tech as well as sample life forms, so some missions based on saving folk from Batarians about to hand them over to the Collectors, or getting a message from TIM that they were calling in at a planet nearby for some purpose (other than collecting humans I mean) would have kept that immersiveness going.

With ME1 at least I felt the Geth were a constant threat and I didn't know if I would face them every time I landed on a planet.

[ExtremeOne]

how can anyone feel compelled by the collectors in ME 2 when they were only in the game for like 2 missions. if Bioware wanted to make a impact they should have had them attack you in every mission. from what i have read and seen the geth in ME 1 were more of a real threat in all of that game

[ExtremeOne]

Nightwriter wrote...

Did anyone else get the sense that the Collectors were nothing more than plot devices meant to occupy our time between the first and last installments?

  

thats what it felt like to me if they were a huge enemy in ME 2 why were they not a bigger part of the game. 

[AresXX7]

No, I didn't find them compelling, they were too bland.
Aside from Harby's endless taunts, which became monotonous after a while, there was no personality to them.

Nightwriter wrote...

Did anyone else get the sense that the Collectors were nothing more than plot devices meant to occupy our time between the first and last installments?

Yes, they were nothing more than fodder, for our weapons/powers, and an answer to what really  became of the Protheans.

[lovgreno]

You shouldn't compare games too much but I can't help but thinking the Geth, Sovereign, Benezia and Saren was much more intimidating than the sometimes unintentionaly funny villains in ME2. There was a touch of overconfident Bond villains in TIMmy and Harbringer. The Collectors was mostly basicaly the stereotypical villains henchmen that dies in vain en masse in front of the heroes guns.