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[Mecha Tengu]

wait lol how did we get into polygamy

[In Exile]

Sex with multiple partners, and threesomes, are overrated. I don't think people appreciate what it means to see someone they care about have sex with another person in front of them and really enjoy it. I'm not saying that there aren't people out there that really do have a cavalier attitude toward sex, where jealousy of that sort won't be a factor, but there's a lot involved in these sort of behaviours that I think people gloss over for the OMGZ 3some effect.

[nightcobra]

i don't see anything wrong with polygamy if the involved parties are in favor of it.



as long as it doesn't involve hurting others, let people live out their lives the way they want to

[nhsk]

Awwww someone wants their Xbox achievements /all without multiple playthroughs :-)

[Pedrak]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

as long as it doesn't involve hurting others, let people live out their lives the way they want to

Hear, hear!

Pedrak approves (+15)

Modifié par Pedrak, 07 septembre 2010 - 03:38 .

[ellerot]

Well, I am quite shocked that having open relationships equals porn to some of you. Or that it is necessarily a scenario where the guy is being a jerk and cheating and having multiple partners. Of course it could be that, if done wrong and well, women can be jerks too in that case....Gone is the time (if there ever was one) where men are the only ones "allowed" to have something on the side.



IMO, it is a very limited view to narrow true love to being monogamous.. I am a girl and I have had open relationships and it never meant loving my partner less or more. One thing has NOTHING to do with the other. Having said that, why must it be about true love and commitment and happy endings? Casual sex is not only very real, but very common....



The women/men involved can get jealous or not. It is understandable that the "bible-thumping" Leliana would be very against it.. but I still haven't figured out, for example, why Zevran, a self proclaimed libertine, would have issues with going at it behind someone's back, that is the thing that doesn't sound "real" to me. He even says something like "I am a murderer, but not a cheat..." This is just very laughable and to me doesn't match with his character and what he had told us so far...



And, anyway, even if I did agree that the only plausible thing is that all characters would want you to be monogamous and have a serious relationship with your PC, I still don't get why you can't be "naughty" and well, lie and cheat and so so.... it is most definetly a matter of choice, and aren't you all always in favor of having more liberties with your PC?

[Kordillus Drakon]

I wonder if bioware would ever pull a double cross on you. Imagine building on a love interest throughout the game only to find out s/he cheated on you! Thats got to evoke some pretty strong emotions especially deciding what to do, kick them out the party etc.

[Pedrak]

Kordillus Drakon wrote...

I wonder if bioware would ever pull a double cross on you. Imagine building on a love interest throughout the game only to find out s/he cheated on you! Thats got to evoke some pretty strong emotions especially deciding what to do, kick them out the party etc.

I think this would make all the players who chose that LI over another one and invested time and effort in the virtual... relationship very, very, very angry. The uproar on this forum would be something to behold

Modifié par Pedrak, 07 septembre 2010 - 05:54 .

[Saibh]

Pedrak wrote...

Kordillus Drakon wrote...

I wonder if bioware would ever pull a double cross on you. Imagine building on a love interest throughout the game only to find out s/he cheated on you! Thats got to evoke some pretty strong emotions especially deciding what to do, kick them out the party etc.

I think this would make all the players who chose that LI over another one and invested time and effort in the virtual... relationship very, very, very angry. The uproar on this forum would be something to behold

Yes, that. People would be infuriated--and, in the end, stop picking that LI. Things done for shock value will only ever work once, I say, which is why, in a choice-based game, they're poor story-telling devices. Some people are willing to accept that a lover has made a mistake, some can't or won't. None of them appreciate it.

Honestly, while it seems interesting, and a very interesting way to make a story play out, I'd just end up disliking that LI and picking another. I mean, people flip out that wish death upon Alistair for dumping their Warden when he had every reason to do so. Imagine what would happen if he had cheated on you.

[Kritanakom]

Pedrak wrote...

Kordillus Drakon wrote...

I wonder if bioware would ever pull a double cross on you. Imagine building on a love interest throughout the game only to find out s/he cheated on you! Thats got to evoke some pretty strong emotions especially deciding what to do, kick them out the party etc.

I think this would make all the players who chose that LI over another one and invested time and effort in the virtual... relationship very, very, very angry. The uproar on this forum would be something to behold

This is an excellent point!
If there's anything you wouldn't put up with from your LI, it's hard to believe your LI would accept you doing it. If Bioware makes it possible at all to carry out multiple relationships, much coercion/sneaking/lying would have to be involved, and it would be obvious throughout that what you're doing is unkind to your partner.

[ellerot]

Kritanakom wrote...

This is an excellent point!
If there's anything you wouldn't put up with from your LI, it's hard to believe your LI would accept you doing it. If Bioware makes it possible at all to carry out multiple relationships, much coercion/sneaking/lying would have to be involved, and it would be obvious throughout that what you're doing is unkind to your partner.

But maybe you would want to be unkind. It would be up to the player to decide whether his character would go there or not. And well, things aren't as black as white as: if you are good, you don't cheat and if you cheat, you are evil. And I think it would enrich the experience to have such an option....

And, anyway, since I would accept my LI doing it, do I get to have one character who would be ok with an open relationship ?

Modifié par ellerot, 08 septembre 2010 - 03:11 .

[mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo]

I understand Leliana being alright with a threesome, but Morrigan wants my male warden all to her self. What about foursomes? My Warden was completely hetero, but he didn't want to upset Isabella, so he let Zevran tag along.

[Saibh]

mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrote...

I understand Leliana being alright with a threesome, but Morrigan wants my male warden all to her self. What about foursomes? My Warden was completely hetero, but he didn't want to upset Isabella, so he let Zevran tag along.

You're talking about how you handle your character. A Warden who has been choosing your exact dialogue options right up until that point doesn't have to let Zevran along. It's personal choice, not a predefined party member. Your Warden doesn't need to follow guidelines about how their character should be. You may choose to, however.

Also, Leliana isn't okay with a threesome unless you harden her. Sexual adventures aren't the same as polygamy, either.

[zahra]

It would be interesting to have an LI that favors an open relationship. It depends on how it is handled I suppose, as I found the Dawn Star+Silk Fox ménage à trois extremely off-putting and out of character for both of them.

[Bruddajakka]

Except for the fact it wasn't since you had to work for it. It wasn't just Hey I know let's have a three-way/four-way in the case of Isabella. You actually had to work on each girl to get them to be open towards it.

[Saibh]

Bruddajakka wrote...

Except for the fact it wasn't since you had to work for it. It wasn't just Hey I know let's have a three-way/four-way in the case of Isabella. You actually had to work on each girl to get them to be open towards it.

I believe she's talking about in regards to their personalities and character--I'm sorry, polygamy just doesn't not seem to be something you can convince someone into if they weren't predisposed towards it. It also seems cheap to me--people just don't want to have to make a choice, and want two characters.

Besides that, once they're in a relationship, I don't recall needing to sort out relationship problems, or having conflicts or anything. You just get to bang two girls.

[Adanu]

MariSkep wrote...

Adanu wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Adanu wrote...

How it is unrealistic, because *your* view is the only one you've been exposed to? Sorry, but plenty of women out there love polygamy.

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Dude, I don't have the energy to feed you right now. Maybe later. I'll, like, dig up some statistics and whatnot.

**** statistics. I've talked to plenty of people .POLYGAMY and POLYAMORY have plenty of supporters. You only hear about monogamy and the like all the time because Puritan/Christian values provail in mainstream media.

As for the topic, I'd love to have threesomes

The way to demonstrate you aren't a troll isn't to say **** statistics. They are actually valued by non trolls as a relatively objective way to work out who's position is backed by the weight of evidence.

Just a heads up.

I don't give a **** if people think I'm a troll or not here. I'm under no obligation whatsoever to cater to demands from unreasonable fools who can't see beyond their own viewpoints. I'm all for discussion. I'm not at all for rants that involve telling me my views and opinions are worthless. The only people who can tell me what to do here are the moderators. Beyond that, you earn respect. I am fine with those who practice monogamy and the like as the only way they are comfortable with. I myself, and quite a few women I know, enjoy polygamy and polyamory. A lot of th etime people will say they are against it just so people will talk to them because they "are weird if they like it".

*laughs* I still can't believe you think 'objective evidence' means something on these sort of forums. *Anyone* can make up crap and stick it on a website. Only math has that sort of solid weight..

[C9316]

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

In the previous Dragon Age game, you could either have Morrigan, Leliana or Zevran (if you were a guy anyway). I hate having to choose. Why can't I simply explain to all my parties (in my case, Morrigan and Leliana) the benefits of polygamy and that "sharing me" has its benefits? Since Hawke is going to be a king (or queen depending on the gender you choose) and since Kings have been known to have multiple wives, what's wrong with me settling down with more than one love interest?

This is why we can't have nice things, like it's so hard to simply stay with one partner.

[IndigoWolfe]

Upon reading the OP... eh, can I just say "no" and be done with it?

[Viva la France]

Wardens can have abusive relationship with Morrigan you know?

[Saibh]

Viva la France wrote...

Wardens can have abusive relationship with Morrigan you know?

Uh, no. He can't. She doesn't belittle him all of the time, or make him feel inferior. She can be cold, and she's not always affectionate, but that is not, and I mean, not, abusive.

[Viva la France]

Saibh wrote...

Viva la France wrote...

Wardens can have abusive relationship with Morrigan you know?

Uh, no. He can't. She doesn't belittle him all of the time, or make him feel inferior. She can be cold, and she's not always affectionate, but that is not, and I mean, not, abusive.

warden can call her a ****.  When I broke up with her I told her to stop acting like a ****.

[Lord_Valandil]

Saibh wrote...

Bruddajakka wrote...

Except for the fact it wasn't since you had to work for it. It wasn't just Hey I know let's have a three-way/four-way in the case of Isabella. You actually had to work on each girl to get them to be open towards it.

I believe she's talking about in regards to their personalities and character--I'm sorry, polygamy just doesn't not seem to be something you can convince someone into if they weren't predisposed towards it. It also seems cheap to me--people just don't want to have to make a choice, and want two characters.

Besides that, once they're in a relationship, I don't recall needing to sort out relationship problems, or having conflicts or anything. You just get to bang two girls.

I loled