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[andar91]

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

andar91 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

You should be allowed your choice, along with the consequences.

But ultimately, they can only put so many choices and consequences in one game.  The choices we can make really depend on what the writers give us and that's the way it has toell be (imo) for the story to be any good.

Well, it wouldn't be too hard. For instance, if you're paired with two partners in DA2, maybe the person who is supposed to play the same role as Wynne gets too batty about what she is seeing and leaves the party permanantly unless you decide to see the error of your ways. Or maybe one of the love interest gets jealous and betrays you down the road.

That would be fine; I'm just saying that you can't an enormous degree of choice all of the time.  Technically, you could hit on every single character in the game if it was a pencil and paper rpg, but in a game that just isn't feasible.  That's all I meant.

[Spazztik]

On one game I got a bug where I romanced Zev and Alistair and Alistair made me make a choice and Zev wouldn't comment on it next time I talked to him. I wish they were a little more lenient on it on a bug free DAO game.



I would like the choice if we have to make it not come as soon as it did in DAO.

[Burritos]

MariSkep wrote...

It depends on the person. (and I doubt the writers want to break to far from social norms.) For example, Morrigan is extremely jealous. She isn't going to share even if the people you're going with are just one night stands.

Zevran is open to multiple partners but not leading someone else along who expects monogamy or your commitment.

I suppose the writers could include a character who sees nothing wrong with polygamy but I doubt they will. They flirted with it during the DN origin but that's as far as I see it going.

idk, i always thought lel the extremely jealous one.

[Saibh]

Spazztik wrote...

On one game I got a bug where I romanced Zev and Alistair and Alistair made me make a choice and Zev wouldn't comment on it next time I talked to him. I wish they were a little more lenient on it on a bug free DAO game.

I would like the choice if we have to make it not come as soon as it did in DAO.

Think about it from a technical perspective: I believe it's triggered once you hit "Adore" stage, yes? At this point, they feel more for you then just a passing fancy. You're not quite deep inside the relationship yet, but you're definitely headed in that direction. Most people wouldn't wait that long--most people, once they start feeling strongly, would ask now. Alistair voices his concerns by saying he's been thinking about it, but he didn't know what to say without sounding jealous. It just reached a point where he couldn't ignore it anymore.

"Fast" is relative--you can get Alistair past Adore before exiting Lothering, if you like.

[Solstice-x]

depending on how you played your cards you could have multiple active love interests at the end of the game. if you were male you could have both Morrigan and Leliana, same with female having Alistair and Zevran.

there *may* be something like that again, where you can trigger the jealousy conversation, and then restart the romance after breaking up with the correct character, but personally i'd rather have it where you can only have one person at a time, for the sake of realism.

[Zevais]

I want to romance my entire party... at the same time. I don't want this to come completely out of context. You get stuck in the Northernmost reaches of the Frostback Mountains during a random encounter. You must huddle together, body to body to survive the cold night. Everyone's approval would have to be maxed out. Your persuasion maxed out... and you do your persuading and things... just... magically... HAPPEN.



Everybody wakes up in the morning. There is a silent pause where everyone looks at everyone else and there is an unsaid agreement that the entire party would never speak of it again.



Bethany could not be directly involved, off scouting to get a remedy or something that will allow everything to regain the strength to move on. Or perhaps her and Hawke intentionally avoided eachother during it all... cuz funcest is not really that fun at all.

[Solstice-x]

Saibh wrote...

"Fast" is relative--you can get Alistair past Adore before exiting Lothering, if you like.

very true. Alistair's approval was already at 100 before i was finished at redcliff on my first playthrough (note that I didn't do his personal quest, or use any of the treaties at this point).

[upsettingshorts]

Saibh wrote...

An entire race of fanservice, yay!

Wouldn't be the first or the last.



/no one is going to see that movie if they looked like hanar

[Saraphial]

Question: Do we have to choose?



Short answer: Yes.



Long answer: Hawke is not a king. His companions are not hookers. And Dragon age is not code for Cheesy Porno.

[TRISTAN WERBE]

they should put a 3some in ME3 and DA2

[Clover Rider]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Saibh wrote...

An entire race of fanservice, yay!

Wouldn't be the first or the last.



/no one is going to see that movie if they looked like hanar

A bit too furry for me and the movie sucks .

[upsettingshorts]

Never saw it myself, still a perfect example of a cynically sexualized race.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 07 septembre 2010 - 01:10 .

[Saibh]

Some Geth wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Saibh wrote...

An entire race of fanservice, yay!

Wouldn't be the first or the last.



/no one is going to see that movie if they looked like hanar

A bit too furry for me and the movie sucks .

Yeah, but wasn't it pretty? Like those glowing rotating helicopter lizards. An excellent self-defense mechanism right there.

Modifié par Saibh, 07 septembre 2010 - 01:10 .

[Clover Rider]

Saibh wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Saibh wrote...

An entire race of fanservice, yay!

Wouldn't be the first or the last.



/no one is going to see that movie if they looked like hanar

A bit too furry for me and the movie sucks .

Yeah, but wasn't it pretty? Like those glowing rotating helicopter lizards. An excellent self-defense mechanism right there.

Now if it was just a video game it may have been good .

[Clover Rider]

 And I have seen far better catgirls why are they blue?

[upsettingshorts]

MariSkep wrote...

insulting racist stereotype. 

Are you talking about the Na'vi or the humans in that movie?

Just kidding, don't answer that.

Short Answer: Yes, Both.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 07 septembre 2010 - 01:14 .

[NonCanon]

Letting us keep both would come of as cheap, since most people have a problem with not being the only love interest in their significant other's life.

[Ortaya Alevli]

I wouldn't enjoy any love interest to stomach sharing Hawke with another. It wouldn't speak highly for them. Alright, theoretically one may fall for Hawke so deeply that they could grudgingly accept that, or simply have a kinky personality, and Hawke might have two such people simultaneously, but it still feels, you know, over the top. I don't know, I'm the kind of person who never found it in myself to let a female Warden accept staying with King Alistair as his mistress or jiggle Leliana while getting crowned. I understand the people looking forward to "owning it all", though.

[DarkSpiral]

As a man, I have fantasies. I am also possessive and jealous of my relationships, so while I can understand the juvenile appeal, I prefer that my companions, who are presumably over the age of 18, and preferably over 21, have similar tendecies.



So, while I am not intellectually opposed to the idea of a follower that is open to multiple relationships, and I guess having the choice is fine, it isn't an option I'd take.



And, as someone mentioned this earlier in the threadI have indeed known people that swing. ONE of those couples is genuinely okay with that lifestyle, the other couple I've known that indulged either had problems already, or developed them soon after. The kind of mindset that allows for that kind of sexual relationship is very rare. And I'd rather they either didn't do it at all, or spent a lot of time and effort to make the NPC(s) involved fully fleshed out characters.



And I'd rather they spend the time and effort that would require on something I'll encounter on every playthrough, like the combat mechanics or the...what was the term they kept using for ME2...emotional involvment?...with the rest of my party and significant NPCs.

[SirOccam]

Man, I loved Avatar. I saw it like 5 times, and am going to drag my friend to see it in IMAX some time soon.

I know the plot was not original at all, and it has many more flaws, all (or at least most) totally justified.

But for me, it wasn't about seeing a movie in the usual sense...it was all about immersion. I have never ever been so immersed in any movie before. I mean, even the greats...look at The Godfather. Glorious film, but you can't tell me it made you feel like you were in 1940's New York. It's obvious you're watching things happen on a screen.

With Avatar, I think the #1 thing I kept hearing was "I forgot I was watching a movie." And it was so true. My favorite part isn't the epic battle, but rather the middle third where Jake meets Neytiri and he (and we) sort of just learn everything about Pandora and the Na'vi. Maybe the plot could have been more original, but honestly I think that it's not necessary at best, and it would actually hurt the immersiveness at worst. Some movies' strengths are in making you think, this one's are in making you feel, and experience.

You may have heard stories about people getting depressed after seeing Avatar. I wouldn't say I felt the same way, but when I stepped out on the curb I definitely looked around at the "splendors" of Earth like strip malls and dirty streets and thought to myself "meh." Pandora was just so...harmonious, I think is the right word.

To anyone who has yet to see it, I highly suggest ignoring the inner cynic (and the outer cynics for that matter). Go in there ignoring the hype or the critiques and just experience it. Yeah maybe James Cameron was trying to make the Na'vi these perfect beings with Disney eyes, or maybe he's out to take all our money. I mean, if he keeps making movies like this, I will give it gladly. But the point is that none of those things actually affect the film. It's like bashing a band because "they're trying to be like this other band." Well okay, but the bottom line is, does it sound good? I mean, regardless of motivations, the music's either going to sound good or it won't.

It's the same with Avatar. I can't read James Cameron's mind, and I wouldn't care to anyway. The bottom line is the movie was awesome to experience (and I mean the real meaning of "awesome"). I wouldn't say it's better or worse than any other particular movie...for me it was in a class of its own.

Okay...it was only a matter of time before I did my whole Avatar rave spiel. It's out of my system now.