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[NonCanon]

MariSkep wrote...

NonCanon wrote...

Letting us keep both would come of as cheap, since most people have a problem with not being the only love interest in their significant other's life.

It depends on the culture but seeing as our teammates are most likely to be humans you're probably. The humans of Fereldan seem pretty much into the monogamous thing. Unless it ends up being a political marriage or a marriage for convenience you're going to have to pick.

Well, if it was written into the character then it's okay. But if someone whom you are romancing, who was written to be all "one true love etc," is suddenly okay with Hawke having multiple partners I may just hit my head on my desk.

[Ortaya Alevli]

Oh, and while we're at it...WTH is with Morrigan giving the Warden a hard time about Leliana while accosting Sten at the very same time? "I belong to no one. And he would not mind" to Sten, but "I find myself acting the possessive wife" to us? And the Warden having no option to say "Then what do you have to say about those come-ons with Sten?" Glad I had plugged in the Slap Morrigan mod just in time.

[Ortaya Alevli]

MariSkep wrote...

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

I wouldn't enjoy any love interest to stomach sharing Hawke with another. It wouldn't speak highly for them.

What do you mean it wouldn't speak highly of them? Does it really matter if they're so long as they're comfortable with a certain arrangement and aren't being taken advantage of?

It matters to me. This is highly subjective, though, and I'm not trying to impose my personal views on others.

[Mecha Tengu]

MariSkep wrote...

With Avatar, I think the #1 thing I kept hearing was "I forgot I was watching a movie."

In my case, largely because I was to busy mocking it.

Almost got me kicked out of the theatre. Worth it. Would have killed someone otherwise.

what was so bad about ponytail USB, giant smurf native american stereotypes, giant mechs, and pew pew?

obvious fan service was obvious fan service
obvious "political message" was obvious, albeit unoriginal and bloody lame
mechs were cool, lots of pewpew

really what's not to like about that movie? 

people did not watch the trailer expecting an epic shakesperean drama. They came in theatres expecting a massive pew pew fest with a rommance subplot as hinted by the trailer

Modifié par Mecha Tengu, 07 septembre 2010 - 01:45 .

[NonCanon]

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

Oh, and while we're at it...WTH is with Morrigan giving the Warden a hard time about Leliana while accosting Sten at the very same time? "I belong to no one. And he would not mind" to Sten, but "I find myself acting the possessive wife" to us? And the Warden having no option to say "Then what do you have to say about those come-ons with Sten?" Glad I had plugged in the Slap Morrigan mod just in time.

Hahah, first time I heard that with my male Warden romancing her I was like "WTF. *stern face*" Same with romancing Zevran with my femWarden after he's in love with you but will still have flirty banters with well....every female in the party. I think we should've been able to comment on those.

[Ortaya Alevli]

NonCanon wrote...

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

Oh, and while we're at it...WTH is with Morrigan giving the Warden a hard time about Leliana while accosting Sten at the very same time? "I belong to no one. And he would not mind" to Sten, but "I find myself acting the possessive wife" to us? And the Warden having no option to say "Then what do you have to say about those come-ons with Sten?" Glad I had plugged in the Slap Morrigan mod just in time.

Hahah, first time I heard that with my male Warden romancing her I was like "WTF. *stern face*" Same with romancing Zevran with my femWarden after he's in love with you but will still have flirty banters with well....every female in the party. I think we should've been able to comment on those.

Back at the camp...

Solona: Darn it, Wynne. Teach me that magical bosom spell or I'm going to make you watch as I defile Andastre's ashes.

EDIT: Oh, well. Then there's the whole Leliana thing.

Modifié par Ortaya Alevli, 07 septembre 2010 - 01:52 .

[SirOccam]

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

Oh, and while we're at it...WTH is with Morrigan giving the Warden a hard time about Leliana while accosting Sten at the very same time? "I belong to no one. And he would not mind" to Sten, but "I find myself acting the possessive wife" to us? And the Warden having no option to say "Then what do you have to say about those come-ons with Sten?" Glad I had plugged in the Slap Morrigan mod just in time.

I admit I was a little indignant when I saw that too. I would have liked to have been able to sort of make her explain herself. She makes it very clear that she doesn't believe in love and that she's totally cool if it's just a one-time thing, then all of a sudden she's catfighting with Leliana.

The real reason, I think, is that she talks one way, then finds herself feeling a different way. That's pretty much central to Morrigan's entire romance...she's not ever really comfortable with her own feelings. But it would have been nice to have been able to call her out on it.

Actually, same thing with Ashley in ME1. One minute she's all "no fraternization with commanding officers" then the next she's all "OMG stay away from my man!" Then she's like "fraternization is bad because it might affect your tactical decisions." Then when it does EXACTLY THAT (on Virmire), she has nothing to say about it.

Modifié par SirOccam, 07 septembre 2010 - 01:54 .

[DarkSpiral]

..may I suggest we end the Avatar discussions? Not only is it offtopic, but clearly there are many here with very strong opinions.

[Mecha Tengu]

MariSkep wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

people did not watch the trailer expecting an epic shakesperean drama. They came in theatres expecting a massive pew pew fest with a rommance subplot as hinted by the trailer

That was the problem. It wasn't however long it was of gung ho Marines killing ****es with a romance subplot. It was however long it was of political propagandist bs forced down my throat with half an hour of interesting stuff thrown in to keep me from rioting.

eh...

well at least the video game was fun lol

[DarkSpiral]

SirOccam wrote...


The real reason, I think, is that she talks one way, then finds herself feeling a different way. That's pretty much central to Morrigan's entire romance...she's not ever really comfortable with her own feelings. But it would have been nice to have been able to call her out on it.

Actually, same thing with Ashley. One minute she's all "no fraternization with commanding officers" then the next she's all "OMG stay away from my man!" Then she's like "fraternization is bad because it might affect your tactical decisions." Then when it does EXACTLY THAT (on Virmire), she has nothing to say about it.

I agree.  Sometimes the limitations that must exist in games just can't quite manage to surmount my desire to break the 4th wall and shakes some NPCs so hard there teeth rattle.

Which was one reason I was gratified and simultaneously frustrated during the Landsmeet.  You can SAY that the reason you want Loghain to live is for the good of Ferelden (and your Warden might even mean it too, in your head) but you can't fire back at Alistair (if he lives and doesn't lieave the cirty) when he chews your butt off.

[Saibh]

SirOccam wrote...

I admit I was a little indignant when I saw that too. I would have liked to have been able to sort of make her explain herself. She makes it very clear that she doesn't believe in love and that she's totally cool if it's just a one-time thing, then all of a sudden she's catfighting with Leliana.

The real reason, I think, is that she talks one way, then finds herself feeling a different way. That's pretty much central to Morrigan's entire romance...she's not ever really comfortable with her own feelings. But it would have been nice to have been able to call her out on it.

Actually, same thing with Ashley in ME1. One minute she's all "no fraternization with commanding officers" then the next she's all "OMG stay away from my man!" Then she's like "fraternization is bad because it might affect your tactical decisions." Then when it does EXACTLY THAT (on Virmire), she has nothing to say about it.

Actually, I am always bugged by Alistair's flirtation with Wynne at RtO. I understand he's not really being serious, but at least Zevran is joking about magical bosoms, and flirty is an obvious part of his character. Alistair gets kinda hot 'n' heavy with his flirting.

[Ortaya Alevli]

SirOccam wrote...

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

Oh, and while we're at it...WTH is with Morrigan giving the Warden a hard time about Leliana while accosting Sten at the very same time? "I belong to no one. And he would not mind" to Sten, but "I find myself acting the possessive wife" to us? And the Warden having no option to say "Then what do you have to say about those come-ons with Sten?" Glad I had plugged in the Slap Morrigan mod just in time.

I admit I was a little indignant when I saw that too. I would have liked to have been able to sort of make her explain herself. She makes it very clear that she doesn't believe in love and that she's totally cool if it's just a one-time thing, then all of a sudden she's catfighting with Leliana.

The real reason, I think, is that she talks one way, then finds herself feeling a different way. That's pretty much central to Morrigan's entire romance...she's not ever really comfortable with her own feelings. But it would have been nice to have been able to call her out on it.

Actually, same thing with Ashley in ME1. One minute she's all "no fraternization with commanding officers" then the next she's all "OMG stay away from my man!" Then she's like "fraternization is bad because it might affect your tactical decisions." Then when it does EXACTLY THAT (on Virmire), she has nothing to say about it.

Agreed. I understand Morrigan's confusion. She is unexperienced when it comes to serious relationships. She thinks both sides are supposed to be carefree, not minding each other's business. And when the Warden does just that, she finds out that he means something to her and gets jealous. Thus far it makes sense. The awkward part is, she keeps hitting on Sten after that! Now that's just plain...plain...Morrigan.

[DarkSpiral]

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

Agreed. I understand Morrigan's confusion. She is unexperienced when it comes to serious relationships. She thinks both sides are supposed to be carefree, not minding each other's business. And when the Warden does just that, she finds out that he means something to her and gets jealous. Thus far it makes sense. The awkward part is, she keeps hitting on Sten after that! Now that's just plain...plain...Morrigan.

I always got the impressions she was doing it specifically to make him uncomfortable; so yes that is pure Morrigan!

[SirOccam]

DarkSpiral wrote...

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

Agreed. I understand Morrigan's confusion. She is unexperienced when it comes to serious relationships. She thinks both sides are supposed to be carefree, not minding each other's business. And when the Warden does just that, she finds out that he means something to her and gets jealous. Thus far it makes sense. The awkward part is, she keeps hitting on Sten after that! Now that's just plain...plain...Morrigan.

I always got the impressions she was doing it specifically to make him uncomfortable; so yes that is pure Morrigan!

I got the Morrigan/Sten banter before really reaching the romance stage with Morrigan, so I like to think of it as an attempt to drop hints to the Warden, maybe make him a little jealous so he'll make a move. I guess it has an altogether different meaning if it happens afterward.

[DarkSpiral]

MariSkep wrote...

I'm still holding out for  political marriage with your real relationship on the side. Either with me as the mistress or as the bride, I'd love to actually explore that type of relationship. I was really interested in how my CE would have handled being the other women while still being Commander of the Grey and Teryn of Gwenar. Hopefully I get to play out a similar situation with Hawke on her rise to power.

The concept is very old, and was in fact socially acceptable throughout many periods in medieval time.  France especially comes to mind, where at one point the King was expected to have both a wife and a mistress.  Madame la Pompadour, for example.  Royalty always worked by it's own set of rules though.

Modifié par DarkSpiral, 07 septembre 2010 - 02:19 .

[Ortaya Alevli]

DarkSpiral wrote...

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

Agreed. I understand Morrigan's confusion. She is unexperienced when it comes to serious relationships. She thinks both sides are supposed to be carefree, not minding each other's business. And when the Warden does just that, she finds out that he means something to her and gets jealous. Thus far it makes sense. The awkward part is, she keeps hitting on Sten after that! Now that's just plain...plain...Morrigan.

I always got the impressions she was doing it specifically to make him uncomfortable; so yes that is pure Morrigan!

But then Sten works her with his "you'll need an armor and a pry bar" stuff. Morrigan getting her comeuppance is priceless.

[Riona45]

Saibh wrote...
Actually, I am always bugged by Alistair's flirtation with Wynne at RtO. I understand he's not really being serious, but at least Zevran is joking about magical bosoms, and flirty is an obvious part of his character. Alistair gets kinda hot 'n' heavy with his flirting.

Heh, I felt annoyed by it too, and couldn't really understand exactly why.

[Dave of Canada]

Saibh wrote...

Actually, I am always bugged by Alistair's flirtation with Wynne at RtO. I understand he's not really being serious, but at least Zevran is joking about magical bosoms, and flirty is an obvious part of his character. Alistair gets kinda hot 'n' heavy with his flirting.

I hated it because it didn't make sense in context. You're in one of the harshest losses in Ferelden where both you, Wynne and Alistair saw good men die and they are jokingly flirting?

[Riona45]

Dave of Canada wrote...


I hated it because it didn't make sense in context. You're in one of the harshest losses in Ferelden where both you, Wynne and Alistair saw good men die and they are jokingly flirting?

That's a great point.