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[Saibh]

MariSkep wrote...

I may hate myself in the morning but here goes

It's up to the participants in a relationship to set their own boundaries. If one member is fine with another exploring his sexual fantasies with an third party it doesn't mean their partner has to reciprocate and grant the same favor.

This isn't to say you should take advantage of what your partner is willing to do and you should be mindful of the situation you'll be walking into. But just because your partner is willing to do something doesn't mean you personally should have to or feel obligated to do so. 

I'd say it'd be incredibly hard to find a situation like this in real life that doesn't come off as one partner blatantly using the other. So much so it's hard for me to seperate the idea that one partner being forbidden from exploring third parties isn't inherently abusive. I understand what you mean, and in the way you present it, yeah, they're consenting adults and it's their life.

[Saibh]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not a yaoi fan, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

I just googled that (I have search filters off).

Thanks.

Oh, it's creepy with the seach filters on.

[Perfect-Kenshin]

Saibh wrote...

I want my fantasy to have some reality--and having a full-fledged polygamist relationship doesn't scream realism to me. I mean, chances of? I don't see why BioWare should devote precious resources of their romances to something as fanservicey as Dawn Star and Silk Fox was instead of focusing on developing meaningful monogamous relationships.

Eh, the Warden can be persuasive enough to convince a mother to kill her own child. I don't see why  the PC with maxed out persuasion couldn't persuade certain people in his party be okay with taking turns in engaging the horizontal shuffle. It really suspends my disbelief to see the Warden do the aforementioned feat or even convince Leliana to ignore her own religion (when this is the very basis for her thoughts and behavior), yet be unable to convince anyone of the benefits of sharing.

[Clover Rider]

Saibh wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not a yaoi fan, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

I just googled that (I have search filters off).

Thanks.

Oh, it's creepy with the seach filters on.

[Saibh]

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

Saibh wrote...

I want my fantasy to have some reality--and having a full-fledged polygamist relationship doesn't scream realism to me. I mean, chances of? I don't see why BioWare should devote precious resources of their romances to something as fanservicey as Dawn Star and Silk Fox was instead of focusing on developing meaningful monogamous relationships.

Eh, the Warden can be persuasive enough to convince a mother to kill her own child. I don't see why  the PC with maxed out persuasion couldn't persuade certain people in his party be okay with taking turns in engaging the horizontal shuffle. It really suspends my disbelief to see the Warden do the aforementioned feat or even convince Leliana to ignore her own religion (when this is the very basis for her thoughts and behavior), yet be unable to convince anyone of the benefits of sharing.

But he's not persuading her to kill her own child...? She sees that there's no help for him and decides to do it herself. No Persuasion involved. I'm going to post this, and then search for that in the toolset to see if I'm right.

Regardless, even if he had, Persuasion generally only works if people are already seeing your side, and haven't quite come to your conclusion. You generally just give them that extra nudge. Like a threesome with Isabela--should Alistair be hardened, you're simply convincing him to do something he already wants to do.

EDIT: Yes, just checked. There's no Persuade involved. What happens is you eventually concede to her pleas to not kill Connor (I'd say she Persuaded you), and then Connor starts acting bat**** and she feels that she has no choice, and prefers to be the one to end his life. For whatever morbid reason.

Modifié par Saibh, 07 septembre 2010 - 04:11 .

[Oblivious]

Saibh wrote...

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not a yaoi fan, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

So.. does that mean you're more of a yuri person?

[Clover Rider]

Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not a yaoi fan, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

So.. does that mean you're more of a yuri person?

Well yuri has better plots so I don't see how anyone can like yaoi over it <_<.

[Ortaya Alevli]

Saibh wrote...

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

Saibh wrote...

I want my fantasy to have some reality--and having a full-fledged polygamist relationship doesn't scream realism to me. I mean, chances of? I don't see why BioWare should devote precious resources of their romances to something as fanservicey as Dawn Star and Silk Fox was instead of focusing on developing meaningful monogamous relationships.

Eh, the Warden can be persuasive enough to convince a mother to kill her own child. I don't see why  the PC with maxed out persuasion couldn't persuade certain people in his party be okay with taking turns in engaging the horizontal shuffle. It really suspends my disbelief to see the Warden do the aforementioned feat or even convince Leliana to ignore her own religion (when this is the very basis for her thoughts and behavior), yet be unable to convince anyone of the benefits of sharing.

But he's not persuading her to kill her own child...? She sees that there's no help for him and decides to do it herself. No Persuasion involved. I'm going to post this, and then search for that in the toolset to see if I'm right.

Regardless, even if he had, Persuasion generally only works if people are already seeing your side, and haven't quite come to your conclusion. You generally just give them that extra nudge. Like a threesome with Isabela--should Alistair be hardened, you're simply convincing him to do something he already wants to do.

EDIT: Yes, just checked. There's no Persuade involved. What happens is you eventually concede to her pleas to not kill Connor (I'd say she Persuaded you), and then Connor starts acting bat**** and she feels that she has no choice, and prefers to be the one to end his life. For whatever morbid reason.

I suppose that one is about the cast-out mother in Dust Town, not Isolde.

[Saibh]

Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not a yaoi fan, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

So.. does that mean you're more of a yuri person?

That bold and italics thing isn't mine, that's all Dave. No emphasis included.

[Dave of Canada]

MariSkep wrote...

she's not the type to write m!pregnancy fancition.

That sounds painful.

Really, really painful.

[Lord_Valandil]

So, when did this become a yaoi/yuri thread?

[Oblivious]

Saibh wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not a yaoi fan, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

So.. does that mean you're more of a yuri person?

That bold and italics thing isn't mine, that's all Dave. No emphasis included.

I see you avoided the question;)

[Saibh]

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

Saibh wrote...

I want my fantasy to have some reality--and having a full-fledged polygamist relationship doesn't scream realism to me. I mean, chances of? I don't see why BioWare should devote precious resources of their romances to something as fanservicey as Dawn Star and Silk Fox was instead of focusing on developing meaningful monogamous relationships.

Eh, the Warden can be persuasive enough to convince a mother to kill her own child. I don't see why  the PC with maxed out persuasion couldn't persuade certain people in his party be okay with taking turns in engaging the horizontal shuffle. It really suspends my disbelief to see the Warden do the aforementioned feat or even convince Leliana to ignore her own religion (when this is the very basis for her thoughts and behavior), yet be unable to convince anyone of the benefits of sharing.

But he's not persuading her to kill her own child...? She sees that there's no help for him and decides to do it herself. No Persuasion involved. I'm going to post this, and then search for that in the toolset to see if I'm right.

Regardless, even if he had, Persuasion generally only works if people are already seeing your side, and haven't quite come to your conclusion. You generally just give them that extra nudge. Like a threesome with Isabela--should Alistair be hardened, you're simply convincing him to do something he already wants to do.

EDIT: Yes, just checked. There's no Persuade involved. What happens is you eventually concede to her pleas to not kill Connor (I'd say she Persuaded you), and then Connor starts acting bat**** and she feels that she has no choice, and prefers to be the one to end his life. For whatever morbid reason.

I suppose that one is about the cast-out mother in Dust Town, not Isolde.

Ooooooohhh. Alright, okay, I understand.

Yeah, that's plain weird. I mean, as I said, they must already be thinking about this option already. If she really didn't want to kill her son and live in wealth back with her family, then some random stranger approaching her isn't gonna do anything to convince her.

Again, you'd be hard-pressed to find two consenting adults willing to pursue a polygamist relationship.

[Saibh]

Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not a yaoi fan, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

So.. does that mean you're more of a yuri person?

That bold and italics thing isn't mine, that's all Dave. No emphasis included.

I see you avoided the question;)

No, it's all a farce anyway, to cover up my love of M!Preg and rollercoaster intestine birth assbabies.

Oh, god, I'm never, ever, ever typing that again.

*too disturbed to find that one Indiana Jones dead guy picture*

[Clover Rider]

MariSkep wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not a yaoi fan, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

So.. does that mean you're more of a yuri person?

Well yuri has better plots so I don't see how anyone can like yaoi over it <_<.

Depends what h mangas you're reading. I've seen just as much braindead yaio as I have everything else.

I was not talking about hentai .

[Lord_Valandil]

Some Geth wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not a yaoi fan, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

So.. does that mean you're more of a yuri person?

Well yuri has better plots so I don't see how anyone can like yaoi over it <_<.

Depends what h mangas you're reading. I've seen just as much braindead yaio as I have everything else.

I was not talking about hentai .

What's wrong about hentai?

[ErichHartmann]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not a yaoi fan, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

So.. does that mean you're more of a yuri person?

Well yuri has better plots so I don't see how anyone can like yaoi over it <_<.

Depends what h mangas you're reading. I've seen just as much braindead yaio as I have everything else.

I was not talking about hentai .

What's wrong about hentai?

Bible Black anyone?

[Lord_Valandil]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not a yaoi fan, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

So.. does that mean you're more of a yuri person?

Well yuri has better plots so I don't see how anyone can like yaoi over it <_<.

Depends what h mangas you're reading. I've seen just as much braindead yaio as I have everything else.

I was not talking about hentai .

What's wrong about hentai?

Bible Black anyone?

OWWWWWW...
Brain...hurts...
I wish I've never seen that one.

[Clover Rider]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not a yaoi fan, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

So.. does that mean you're more of a yuri person?

Well yuri has better plots so I don't see how anyone can like yaoi over it <_<.

Depends what h mangas you're reading. I've seen just as much braindead yaio as I have everything else.

I was not talking about hentai .

What's wrong about hentai?

Bible Black anyone?

 

[Oblivious]

Saibh wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not a yaoi fan, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

So.. does that mean you're more of a yuri person?

That bold and italics thing isn't mine, that's all Dave. No emphasis included.

I see you avoided the question;)

No, it's all a farce anyway, to cover up my love of M!Preg and rollercoaster intestine birth assbabies.

Oh, god, I'm never, ever, ever typing that again.

*too disturbed to find that one Indiana Jones dead guy picture*

Err... wat?