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#1026
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soren145 wrote...

FFFFFUUUUUUU DLC bug! How disappointing, of all the bugs that could be in this DLC it has to be the one that ruins the very reason that I bought this. Morrigan thinks I'm an ass, awesome.  :pinched:


My thoughts exactly. It seems to be a pretty widespread problem though, and its a pretty huge bug because it affects one of the biggest decisions in origins

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I think you're reading a lot of complaining about The Bug, and I have done my share as well, but that doesn't mean they all hate it. And even the people that DO hate it are probably more vocal than those who don't. And negative reports often overshadow positive ones.

I don't know the actual statistics about who liked it and who didn't any more than you do, but if you're going to be using it as a foundation for making assertions like "BioWare were trying to hide the crappiness of the game," then you should probably make sure it's based on something demonstrably factual.


Dragon Age: Origins wasnt crappy, no, but to truly flesh out DLC for something that was seen as important throughout the main-storyline takes more than what they gave, which is verified by the fact, that in other threads, people were complaining that Bioware promised 2 years of DLC and they said Witch Hunt was the last one because they wanted to focus on DA2

As I said - I was right. It was rushed and therefore short, disappointed and not as much as they could have given us.

No, it's not logical to assume that because they didn't want spoilers posted, and because you didn't like the DLC, they knew the DLC was crap and just wanted keep its crappiness under wraps so they could get as much money as they could before word got out. My namesake would definitely not approve...you're multiplying entities way beyond necessity. You're inventing additional things when there's already a totally sufficient explanation in place.


Its not an assumption. Its based on what other people have said and what Bioware has responded with concerning others posts in relation to their DLC. Its money and nothing else. Thats what caused the DLC to not be a good as it could have been.

Like I said, they NEVER want spoilers posted before something comes out, or even after when it's in a NON-SPOILER forum (such as this one). To assume that their reasoning for such is drastically different this time is completely irrational.


Of course they dont want spoilers posted, but they went out of their way to make sure none were posted about this particular DLC. If you can find other threads concerning the other DLC that was as much anticipated as those things which pertain to Morrigan - then I would like to see a link so that I might stand corrected.

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Vordimier wrote...

You know, people, there is a reason as to why the Bioware people specifically opened up a thread concerning "THIS" dlc.

Think about it. Your paying $7 bucks for this prodcut. Thats enough for a meal at many different locations, a movie ticket or even a monthly charge to any particular website for another service. However, with this DLC, the time you get on your return, as well as anything else related to is far, far less valuable.

There is technically no closure - at least nothing that anyone really, really wanted. The people who romanced Morrigan were entranced by her perspective, personality and character, but also saw what she did and said and was wanting redemption for it - a genuine relationship. Bioware knew this, but lets face it - they didnt give it to you.

They knew what the public wanted, but they also did not want to spend the real time and effort and "MONEY" to produce a quality DLC that would have given a good ending to what they call one of their best loved games in their new franchise or whatever. They pandered to the public because they didnt want to ****** them off. They threw a scap of meat to a starving audience.

Thats why they said not to post spoilers. If people really knew what was entailed, then they would not be pleased. Just look at what others have posted so far. Yes, some liked it, some thought it was okay or well-spent money, but the majority of people all say the same things - short, dissapointed, no closure, no answers to question when Bioware specifically said that they would.

Frankly speaking - they did give you what you asked for, but did it very cheaply and enough to say that they did without falling through with it. Its a business bait-and-switch tactic and they pulled the wool over the publics eyes very well.

It is sad, really. They dont make games like they used to anymore. Remember Baldur's Gate back in the day, with its genuine saga and expansions? That is what they should have done with all of this concerning the very first game of the Dragon Age: Origins universe. Or at least even tried.

I look forwared to DA2, but Im becoming increasily skeptical of Biowares capability concerning their products. The core games are good to say the least, but if they are going to give plot-holes, which everyone knows that they do deliberately, then they need to seriously follow through with what they say and stop letting the money do the talking for them as they did with this.


This pretty much echoes all of my thoughts on this DLC as well. Really not worth 7 dollars. Watch the ending on You-Tube.

Bioware is drawing closer and closer to Activision in my eyes, in that they seem to care less and less about the fanbase for their games and more about squeezing every dollar possible in every cheap and dishonest way possible out of every game. They seem to be more and more concerned with glitz, graphics, and flashy advertising then actual substance and story. I honestly think Mass Effect 3 is going to be my last Bioware buy, i'm definitely not picking up DA2, which is sad considering i've been a long time fan of this studio and have bought almost every game they've made since Baldurs Gate 1.

This DLC left me feeling gipped, deceived and just generally left me with a sour taste in my mouth for Bioware.

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OriginsIsBest

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Can anybody help me, I'm from the UK and I still have no WH.

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Here's a topic to discuss - gonna fix the huge bug in the next few hours?

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I'm rather annoyed. I just played it with my female character, who was bff's with morrigan all through origins, even agreeing to the ritual (in other words, letting her sleep with my betrothed - Alistair), and when I get to the end she kept saying I rejected the ritual, that I betrayed her and blah, blah, blah. WTF!? So I let her sleep with my man for nothing? That's so messed up... Dammit BioWare. That is a serious bug.

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Ok, without spoiling it for me... are any of the romances concluded in the end? >:l

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I just started loading it for PS3 a few minutes ago. For those PS3 users that haven't gotten it yet, it is there. Seems pretty slow. The servers must be BUSY.

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what a load of crap. no update 1.05 for pc, so having downloaded the Witch Hunt for pc is useless because it can't be played with ver.1.04! Come on bioware, how can you drop the ball on this? Update page still lists 1.04..great job there guys...but you don't mind taking my money tho...


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Zanderat wrote...

How could they **** up something so basic to the whole premise of the DLC? Talk about not caring about their fans.........Wow.


Exactly. The whole point of this DLC is that you chat with Morrigan one last time and thats based on how you dealt with her in Origins. The basic premise of the DLC is totally broken for a good number of people. This better get fixed faster than they fixed the bugs from Awakening.

Its just disappointing and disheartening that they'd put this DLC out when the core premise behind it straight up doesn't work for many people. Because its not a bad DLC besides that...

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DAJOSEPH25 wrote...

Ok, without spoiling it for me... are any of the romances concluded in the end? >:l


Besides Morrigan? No- the ending is rather abrupt; no epilogue slides or anything just straight to credits. And even if you romanced Morrigan there is a good chance she won't recognize if you did the DR.....

Modifié par Brockololly, 08 septembre 2010 - 02:24 .


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Brockololly wrote...

DAJOSEPH25 wrote...

Ok, without spoiling it for me... are any of the romances concluded in the end? >:l


Besides Morrigan? No- the ending is rather abrupt; no epilogue slides or anything just straight to credits.


Wow... Does it even distinguish the past romances through? Because if It doesn't it might contradict with witch hunt's story....

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I want more Morrigan time!!!!!

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Anyhow, I wont play Witch Hunt until I have beaten awakening >:3

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So I just finished Witch Hunt, and overall I must say it wasn't bad. Pretty much what I expected to an extent, and overall I don't feel like I was ripped off.

The companions, Ariane and Finn, were actually great and I liked their particular personality quirks. Party banter was entertaining, too.

Dog was an amazing companion to have back, and the new codex entry dealing with his status after Origins was honestly one of the funniest and best things I read :lol:

Also, you'll see another familiar and favorite face in the game, though I felt that the voice sounded kinda wierd-sounding. New voice actor for the role? I don't know.

The feeling of searching for Morrigan, be her friend or lover, was definitely there despite the brevity of this DLC. I liked the way the ring was implemented in the game. Overall the DLC takes whether you romanced her or not, and based on the dialogue choices it provides, really lets you express how your Warden feels about the search. A quick but otherwise cool personal touch that I was hoping for.

One odd thing (not sure if this is bad for others but it was kinda bad for me), was the extremely high-level equipment your party has that leaves almost everything you saved for them from Origins or other DLC/Awakening obsolete. Thankfully because my warden was a warrior this playthrough I couldn't access any chests and therefore wouldn't get an overload in loot.

Before I go into my one complaint, I must say that the confrontation with Morrigan (romance/DR-wise) was what I expected and I'm fine with her not revealing anything specific.

Now, here is my one complaint about the DLC:

I unfortunately got the Dark Ritual bug as well. I honestly don't know what factors or patterns lead to it, but I reloaded a point in the game each time to try out different dialogue choices, as I was thinking maybe it was choice-based rather than straight import how the game would recognize whether one did the Ritual or not. Sadly I realized after a couple of reloads that it was a bug...

I saw the ending from the youtube clip provided and that is what I base my reflection on this DLC on, and overall I think it revealed just enough without giving away the entire thing and I'm happy with that.

If the bug gets fixed, or I have time to replay or even redo THIS particular Warden, then I will probably enjoy this DLC more over time. I think now I just have to let everything sink in.

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Ok right. Since we can only save before talking to morrigan. How are our choices going to be imported to da2? Since u can choose to disapear with her or not or kill her. That's 3 outcomes yet we won't be able to import that choice in da2? Useless dlc?

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I personally agree with SirOccam. I very much enjoyed this DLC. Providing you don't get a bugged ending, I also think that if you are in the very small minority of people who (like me) are still holding out hope for a return to the Warden in DA3, then the ending of this (providing you select the correct dialouges) is very satisfactory. For those who were hoping for closure on the Warden's tale, perhaps it was not fully given because his tale isn't done with yet.



I've yet to see any OFFICAL confirmation that the Warden is gone for good. Until I see otherwise i'm going to consider the possibilty that he/she will be back. However unlikely it might seem. Yes this is the last Origins DLC, but that doesn't mean the Warden has been dispensed of. His ties to the origins storyline, yes. His ties to that era in the Dragon age Saga, yes. His role in the continued development of the Dragon Age Saga, I personally think/hope, no.



Anyone who wants to see a return of the Warden and who romanced Morrigan, i'd highly reccommend this DLC to. To others, I can't say. If you recieve the Bug, i'd advise a re-load. That fixed so many of the issues that arose in Awakening for me. It may work on this.

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Aldaris951 wrote...

Ok right. Since we can only save before talking to morrigan. How are our choices going to be imported to da2? Since u can choose to disapear with her or not or kill her. That's 3 outcomes yet we won't be able to import that choice in da2? Useless dlc?


What part did you not get about NO SPOILERS?

Jeez...

#1044
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I'm downloading for the first time now! :)))))

It sure as hell is taking it's time though.

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OriginsIsBest wrote...

I'm downloading for the first time now! :)))))
It sure as hell is taking it's time though.


yeah ive been downloading it for about 1 hour now and im at 57% for the ps3

Modifié par Apepumpkin, 08 septembre 2010 - 02:44 .


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blakskyz wrote...

what a load of crap. no update 1.05 for pc, so having downloaded the Witch Hunt for pc is useless because it can't be played with ver.1.04! Come on bioware, how can you drop the ball on this? Update page still lists 1.04..great job there guys...but you don't mind taking my money tho...


Have you even tried to play it? I have it installed on my PC version 1.04 and it starts up just fine, and plenty of others have completed it on the PC already.

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mine was bugged. I convinced alistair to sleep with her and she said i denied her. anyone else experiencing the same?

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@GehnTheGrey - I may take your advise and try a redo of Witch Hunt if I have time this week. Maybe you're right. Who knows.

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Guys listen the warden wot be coming back because there's no way to save our choices since the dlc ends right after you make a choice. So basically this dlc may as well of never happend because u can't import these choices into da2 so we may of well not of got the dlc.

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How long is this DLC?