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fantasypisces wrote...

 We think we found the problem for the bug.

After Origins you get an auto-save that takes place after the coronation and epilogue saves, right.

Well, if you ever load that save (i.e. it puts you on the road, when you leave the road you go directly to camp) then the game messes up your flags.



So after Origins, if you do not want to be bugged, do not, under any circumstances play that auto-save, just immedietly import into either Witch Hunt or Awakening.



I have to play through all of Origins again, because my only save is in the epilogue. But many people have come out and confirmed that, whether by reloading and playing, or by looking at the toolset.



Funny how the community found it before Q&A, technical support, and developers. lol.

Agreed with others on Lair of the Shadowbroker, that was the best bit of DLC I have ever played for any game, it was simply perfect :happy:



That would also explain why some of my journal entries are screwed up.  This is BS.

Witch Hunt == Long, Wet Fart.

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Whoever said your choices can be imported from info on your social account is full of crock. If that were the case then why is there importing bugs in witch hunt dlc? Also if you do 1 choice then reload a save and make another choice how they going to pick what one to do? Basically no autosave at end means our choices from this dlc won't be imported to da2. So it's like the story of this dlc never happend.


This.

Importing from social account makes absolutely no sense.


it's not that this procedure is handled right now. the social account is the only thing every da:o player has in common so it makes it to the only thing where data can be stored independently of which gaming system you are using. bioware stated that you can import data (so to speak choices) to da2 regardless of wether you played da:o on pc, xbox or ps3 - that exactly leaves us to which solution?! yeah, the social acc.

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Semper listen mate. If they wanted our choices to save for da2 with this dlc there would of been an end auto save. End of story.

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I'm sure you guys already have an idea of the bug, but I have played through several imports of the same character and I know what causes it.

It's from Origins, after the epilogue... when you guys let us pretend we are doing things before the final battle...

The bug is Morrigan doesn't recognize the Dark Ritual.

1. Loaded my character from awakening, in which I loaded from a post-epilogue save... bugged.

2. Loaded same character from epilogue save itself, the post-campaign one... no bug.

3. Then to prove it wasn't awakening, I imported the epilogue save to awakening, then to golems, then to Witch Hunt, and no bug. She reacted correctly.

The reason why so many people are getting this bug is because most people play after the epilogue, even if it's just to switch equipment. So that's what I think.

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night0205 wrote...

I'm sure you guys already have an idea of the bug, but I have played through several imports of the same character and I know what causes it.
It's from Origins, after the epilogue... when you guys let us pretend we are doing things before the final battle...
The bug is Morrigan doesn't recognize the Dark Ritual.
1. Loaded my character from awakening, in which I loaded from a post-epilogue save... bugged.
2. Loaded same character from epilogue save itself, the post-campaign one... no bug.
3. Then to prove it wasn't awakening, I imported the epilogue save to awakening, then to golems, then to Witch Hunt, and no bug. She reacted correctly.
The reason why so many people are getting this bug is because most people play after the epilogue, even if it's just to switch equipment. So that's what I think.

Thanks, I'm going to load up and old save at the landsmeet and see if I can get the dark ritual ending. Posted Image

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We need some official word from Bioware here. This sucks.

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UberDuber wrote...

night0205 wrote...

I'm sure you guys already have an idea of the bug, but I have played through several imports of the same character and I know what causes it.
It's from Origins, after the epilogue... when you guys let us pretend we are doing things before the final battle...
The bug is Morrigan doesn't recognize the Dark Ritual.
1. Loaded my character from awakening, in which I loaded from a post-epilogue save... bugged.
2. Loaded same character from epilogue save itself, the post-campaign one... no bug.
3. Then to prove it wasn't awakening, I imported the epilogue save to awakening, then to golems, then to Witch Hunt, and no bug. She reacted correctly.
The reason why so many people are getting this bug is because most people play after the epilogue, even if it's just to switch equipment. So that's what I think.

Thanks, I'm going to load up and old save at the landsmeet and see if I can get the dark ritual ending. Posted Image


Err... you don't have to go back to the landsmeet... you just have to import the save, that auto saves post-campaign epilogue... right after you finish the game... and don't use a save after that.

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night0205 wrote...

UberDuber wrote...

night0205 wrote...

I'm sure you guys already have an idea of the bug, but I have played through several imports of the same character and I know what causes it.
It's from Origins, after the epilogue... when you guys let us pretend we are doing things before the final battle...
The bug is Morrigan doesn't recognize the Dark Ritual.
1. Loaded my character from awakening, in which I loaded from a post-epilogue save... bugged.
2. Loaded same character from epilogue save itself, the post-campaign one... no bug.
3. Then to prove it wasn't awakening, I imported the epilogue save to awakening, then to golems, then to Witch Hunt, and no bug. She reacted correctly.
The reason why so many people are getting this bug is because most people play after the epilogue, even if it's just to switch equipment. So that's what I think.

Thanks, I'm going to load up and old save at the landsmeet and see if I can get the dark ritual ending. Posted Image


Err... you don't have to go back to the landsmeet... you just have to import the save, that auto saves post-campaign epilogue... right after you finish the game... and don't use a save after that.

I didnt know you could import autosaves

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night0205 wrote...

UberDuber wrote...

night0205 wrote...

I'm sure you guys already have an idea of the bug, but I have played through several imports of the same character and I know what causes it.
It's from Origins, after the epilogue... when you guys let us pretend we are doing things before the final battle...
The bug is Morrigan doesn't recognize the Dark Ritual.
1. Loaded my character from awakening, in which I loaded from a post-epilogue save... bugged.
2. Loaded same character from epilogue save itself, the post-campaign one... no bug.
3. Then to prove it wasn't awakening, I imported the epilogue save to awakening, then to golems, then to Witch Hunt, and no bug. She reacted correctly.
The reason why so many people are getting this bug is because most people play after the epilogue, even if it's just to switch equipment. So that's what I think.

Thanks, I'm going to load up and old save at the landsmeet and see if I can get the dark ritual ending. Posted Image


Err... you don't have to go back to the landsmeet... you just have to import the save, that auto saves post-campaign epilogue... right after you finish the game... and don't use a save after that.


So basically you are saying do any and all equipment switches before you get your epilogue; use the epilogue save and you won't have a problem?

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Semper listen mate. If they wanted our choices to save for da2 with this dlc there would of been an end auto save. End of story.


a save game never ever contains all the choices your character made. like the achievments this is all stored within your social acc. but yes, it makes no sense to discuss this topic with you because you lack technological knowledge.

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UberDuber wrote...

night0205 wrote...

UberDuber wrote...

night0205 wrote...

I'm sure you guys already have an idea of the bug, but I have played through several imports of the same character and I know what causes it.
It's from Origins, after the epilogue... when you guys let us pretend we are doing things before the final battle...
The bug is Morrigan doesn't recognize the Dark Ritual.
1. Loaded my character from awakening, in which I loaded from a post-epilogue save... bugged.
2. Loaded same character from epilogue save itself, the post-campaign one... no bug.
3. Then to prove it wasn't awakening, I imported the epilogue save to awakening, then to golems, then to Witch Hunt, and no bug. She reacted correctly.
The reason why so many people are getting this bug is because most people play after the epilogue, even if it's just to switch equipment. So that's what I think.

Thanks, I'm going to load up and old save at the landsmeet and see if I can get the dark ritual ending. Posted Image


Err... you don't have to go back to the landsmeet... you just have to import the save, that auto saves post-campaign epilogue... right after you finish the game... and don't use a save after that.

I didnt know you could import autosaves


yeah, you can. it's a save... just like any other.

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Spartansfan8888 wrote...

night0205 wrote...

UberDuber wrote...

night0205 wrote...

I'm sure you guys already have an idea of the bug, but I have played through several imports of the same character and I know what causes it.
It's from Origins, after the epilogue... when you guys let us pretend we are doing things before the final battle...
The bug is Morrigan doesn't recognize the Dark Ritual.
1. Loaded my character from awakening, in which I loaded from a post-epilogue save... bugged.
2. Loaded same character from epilogue save itself, the post-campaign one... no bug.
3. Then to prove it wasn't awakening, I imported the epilogue save to awakening, then to golems, then to Witch Hunt, and no bug. She reacted correctly.
The reason why so many people are getting this bug is because most people play after the epilogue, even if it's just to switch equipment. So that's what I think.

Thanks, I'm going to load up and old save at the landsmeet and see if I can get the dark ritual ending. Posted Image


Err... you don't have to go back to the landsmeet... you just have to import the save, that auto saves post-campaign epilogue... right after you finish the game... and don't use a save after that.


So basically you are saying do any and all equipment switches before you get your epilogue; use the epilogue save and you won't have a problem?


Listen, if you are worried about equipment switching... in Witch Hunt there is "ENCHANTMENT!" and you can buy/sell high end weapons/armor... otherwise you can import to Awakening... and use those merchants... if not yes you can figure out what you want before you kill the archdemon... All saves after the epilogue are bugged.

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Aldaris951 wrote...

Semper listen mate. If they wanted our choices to save for da2 with this dlc there would of been an end auto save. End of story.


a save game never ever contains all the choices your character made. like the achievments this is all stored within your social acc. but yes, it makes no sense to discuss this topic with you because you lack technological knowledge.

Really...then explain to me why a save is even needed for import? if it's all on the acc then the save files are not needed at all. You could simply select whatever you wanted from the social acc and import THAT. Also there would not be randomly generated stories if you make a new character, like ME2 for example. If the data is stored on the social then if you had a 100% paragon from ME1 then making a new person in ME2 would still carry those choices since it's stored in the social network. Sorry mate but you don't know what your talking about.

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kylecouch wrote...

-Semper- wrote...

Aldaris951 wrote...

Semper listen mate. If they wanted our choices to save for da2 with this dlc there would of been an end auto save. End of story.


a save game never ever contains all the choices your character made. like the achievments this is all stored within your social acc. but yes, it makes no sense to discuss this topic with you because you lack technological knowledge.

Really...then explain to me why a save is even needed for import? if it's all on the acc then the save files are not needed at all. You could simply select whatever you wanted from the social acc and import THAT. Also there would not be randomly generated stories if you make a new character, like ME2 for example. If the data is stored on the social then if you had a 100% paragon from ME1 then making a new person in ME2 would still carry those choices since it's stored in the social network. Instead what do you get? you get a 100% pro-human Renegade by default. Sorry mate but you don't know what your talking about.



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[quote]-Semper- wrote...

[quote]Aldaris951 wrote...

Semper listen mate. If they wanted our choices to save for da2 with this dlc there would of been an end auto save. End of story.[/quote]

a save game never ever contains all the choices your character made. like the achievments this is all stored within your social acc. but yes, it makes no sense to discuss this topic with you because you lack technological knowledge.

[/quote]
Really...then explain to me why a save is even needed for import? if it's all on the acc then the save files are not needed at all. You could simply select whatever you wanted from the social acc and import THAT. Also there would not be randomly generated stories if you make a new character, like ME2 for example. If the data is stored on the social then if you had a 100% paragon from ME1 then making a new person in ME2 would still carry those choices since it's stored in the social network. Instead what do you get? you get a 100% pro-human Renegade by default. Sorry mate but you don't know what your talking about.[/quote]

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kylecouch wrote...

Really...then explain to me why a save is even needed for import?


because right now this feature is not used and also not needed?

If the data is stored on the social then if you had a 100% paragon from ME1 then making a new person in ME2 would still carry those choices since it's stored in the social network. Sorry mate but you don't know what your talking about.


the achievments are stored in completion but there are also different characters stored, therefore you can select which data from which character will be transfered to da2 . actually we don't know what's uploaded to bioware's servers but the flags can be simply read from that collected data.

now explain your point why it is so ridiculous to import that data from the social site and how bioware will transfer your save games from ps3 to pc and vice versa?

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Kyle, Semper: take it to PMs. Enough of your bickering in this thread.

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im sorry but really witch hunt was ok not great but its ok ending to the game i guess just wish that you where able to go do side quest and stuff like and open world rpg is but its w/e i guess

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Eurypterid wrote...

Kyle, Semper: take it to PMs. Enough of your bickering in this thread.

My apologies, that was my first post on the subject, and didn't plan on responding either way.

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Jackumzz wrote...

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Nice DLC to conclude DA:O.

I like how the end left so much unanswered, but still hinted at certain things and set up a good future plot. I was fairly satisfied with the ending, and got no bug either.


Actually no, there is no auto-save after the Morrigan confrontation.
So, there is absolutely no way that the "decision" will carry onto another game.


I was never claiming that. Just in terms of the storyline, not the specific dialogue options you chose.

Either way, no matter what you say, the ending is the same, so what I said still stands.


I was assuming that there are at least three different endings in WH
1. you went into the portal with morri to see your son.
2. you let morri go through the portal alone
3. you kill morri

Anyhow, none of these outcomes will carry over since there's no auto save.

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I don't know wtf you lot are talking about. I'm obviously the minority but I had 4 end game saves with different people taking the sacrifices ( Grey Warden, Alistair and Loghain) and one ending where I performed the ritual. I simply just loaded the end game where Alistair died, got that ending then I loaded the end game where I performed the ritual and got the ending to Witch Hunt which was specific to that.



Are you sure it has nothing to do with Awakening? I haven't played the expansion and have 0 problems with WItch Hunt.

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Back on the topic of Witch Hunt, it was worth far less then the $7 I wasted on it. The new boss creature didn't really fit into the setting, it was just tossed in there for an achivment imo. Although these mirriors do indeed present a whole new range of possibilites to a thread I made awhile ago discussing the origins of the Darkspawn. If the story about the Mages entering the Golden City is true, then perhaps they used these mirrors to enter the city in the first place? maybe they even go to Arlathan itself? The only thing this DLC did for me was make me even more concered about wtf Flemeth really is, who appears to be the ceneterpoint of all their games. And quite possibly the Final antagonist, who gets so powerful you have to import every hero you ever use to fight her in a cataclismic final battle. Wishful thinking to be sure, but that would be interesting. Alas it has no chance of happening since I've said this. I apologise for this to everyone who would like to see that happen. unless Bioware want's to delete this post and pretend it was never said -nug nug-

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Well, everything works for me, so I guess I'm lucky.

I laughed my ass off at the end though... gave Morrigan a big kiss, flipped my middle finger at Finn, the dog, elven chick and their quest for the book, and stepped through the portal.

What the hell kinda ending is that? I mean, it is a very fitting ending for my character, but you don't even so much as glance at the other party members before leaving. So what, they are just standing their with their ****s in their hands, left with nothing. It was kind of an anticlimax, for them at least.

Modifié par Spaghetti_Ninja, 08 septembre 2010 - 07:09 .


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kylecouch wrote...

Back on the topic of Witch Hunt, it was worth far less then the $7 I wasted on it. The new boss creature didn't really fit into the setting, it was just tossed in there for an achivment imo. Although these mirriors do indeed present a whole new range of possibilites to a thread I made awhile ago discussing the origins of the Darkspawn. If the story about the Mages entering the Golden City is true, then perhaps they used these mirrors to enter the city in the first place? maybe they even go to Arlathan itself? The only thing this DLC did for me was make me even more concered about wtf Flemeth really is, who appears to be the ceneterpoint of all their games. And quite possibly the Final antagonist, who gets so powerful you have to import every hero you ever use to fight her in a cataclismic final battle. Wishful thinking to be sure, but that would be interesting. Alas it has no chance of happening since I've said this. I apologise for this to everyone who would like to see that happen. unless Bioware want's to delete this post and pretend it was never said -nug nug-


That actually does sound epic! Only thing missing is Urdnot Wrex riding to your aid on the Rachni Queen...I apologise if BIOWARE were intending on that happening in ME3 if so you can also delete my post and use the MIB memory whipe flashy pen thing.

Back on topic though, I though 4 pounds was good value for money I really like the idea of Morrigan finally accepting the Wardens love and taking him into the mirror to meet his son it was very touching. :crying:

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wow unbelievable, yet another huge bug!!!

i could only hope that DA2 will have less major bug than DAO