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#1476
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FieryDove wrote...
Well GS called WH vapid so I don't think they are totally corrupt. >Spoiler in review
http://www.gamespot....unt/review.html

I feel Morrigan deserved a entire expansion and no dlc would do her justice no matter what. The getting answers thing and just getting even more questions is very upsetting. Imho as always...

Dead on. The highlight of the DLC wasn't Morrigan, it was a simple on-liner, "Warden, your dog is lecturing me again." And it was delivered early on.

#1477
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FASherman wrote...

Hey, I agree with him. Lair of the Shadow Broker was a much better conceived and executed DLC than Witch Hunt. I'll take constructive criticism over fanboy, rah-rah, sycophantic apologists any day.


As will I, but I see nothing constructive about his last post. It's just a crudely phrased rant at BioWare.

Just a reminder to everyone: I know it's tough when you're passionate about something (either liking it or hating it), but let's keep the comments constructive and let's refrain from personal attacks (i.e. name-calling such as 'troll') and don't circumvent the swear filters. It's the same as actually swearing, and that's not allowed here.

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Well, the upcoming Witch Hunt patch must be the first patch ever in the history of DLCs. I hope I'm wrong. Seriously, a product which is around one hour long to have such a huge bug which destroys the only reason of its existence, is ridiculous. Even without the bug, for me this DLC was a waste of my 5 euros. It's not about the prize though; it's about how a company like Bioware - which I respect - lately, decides to release such low quality products. For sure, not the best way to end a story of a marvelous RPG like DA:O and keep me interested for its "sequel"...



As for the review of Witch Hunt in Gamespot, it's spot-on. It's worth mentioning that the reviewer gave a 9.5 / 10 to DA:O, so he's definitely not a hater.


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I WANNA SEE A DRAGON AGE 3 WITH MY WARDEN IN MORE THEN I WANNA SEE THIS NEW GUY IN DRAGON AGE 2

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I guess I'm in the minority in that I don't particularly want to see 'my warden' carry through to the sequels. For one thing, that would mean more levels and even higher level play, and that's something that I find invariably leads to overpowered characters and tedious game play. I also like creating new characters and building a story for that new character. I feel my warden's story is pretty well done with.



I can't say I'm thrilled with the 'forced' character of Hawke (and I really don't care for the name either), but I'm willing to see how it plays out. I think, since we're going to get to see more of Thedas in DA2 as well as a different perspective on events related to the DA:O events, that a new character makes much more sense than forcing our warden into an extension of his (IMO) already finished story.



Oh man, I'm off topic here. Apologies. Let's turn this back to Witch Hunt I haven't completed Witch Hunt (waiting for the patch at this point), so I can't comment on how it does or doesn't provide 'closure' (how I hate that term), but I'll likely revisit it once I've completed the DLC.

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ö.Ö to be honest i didn´t have a bug at all, or i didn´t recognized it - so what bug are you guys talking about all the time?

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I also don't want to continue playing my Warden any longer.  All I want is to continue importing so that I can keep hearing about him.  And the only thing I don't like about Hawke is the fact that he/she can only be Hawke.  I know this isn't Origins anymore but I think it's just a shame I can't be an elf. I will still play and hopefully enjoy DA2, though.

Anyhow, I'm sad to hear bad things about Witch Hunt.  It was an unexpected surprise to get an email today that mentioned more DLC.  Normally I ignore this kind of stuff but when I read the description I was like "oh wow" because I realized that this was something that was actually pertinent to my Warden's story.  Naturally that draws me in.

I don't like to spoil things for myself but I'm going to head over to YouTube to check out some footage of it.  Of course I know I'll end up buying it anyway.  This particular DLC is just a must-have if it's considered canon and will import.  I'm just hoping I won't end up feeling as disappointed as a lot of people here seem.

EDIT: Just watched a few vids.   The ending doesn't seem so bad...? o_0  I mean, sure it doesn't answer every single little question but... it is a conclusion without a doubt. It's the end, and it may serve to have unforeseen ramifications in the future, which is why I'd assume we can't have every answer.  But eh.. I'll save my real judgment for when I play it this afternoon or this evening if I find the time.

Modifié par Reyno411, 15 septembre 2010 - 09:45 .


#1483
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Reyno411 - you did what? Do you read about soaps in magazines then watch them on TV? Don't do it to yourself - live for better things.

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Really disappointed. I can accept all positives about this DLC and yes, I would have payed $ 70.00 for a proper ending but all I got was a lazy, haste and effortless work by Bioware. And I am a Bioware slave.



Most will get Dragon Age 2, I still would. And yes, sometimes we don't have to have an answer. But don't advertise about it and then still basically gave us nothing.



Because of Mass Effect (and all of Bioware's games), although I was livid about not able to play as my warden, I was willing to accept. I loved my pals and I want to continue with them. But now, I already hate the idea of Hawke and I am actually angry! Are you kidding me? Angry about a game?!!!



Fine, it's short. Fine, my new companions I could kill without hesitation. Fine, it's linear. Fine, wasted treasures & level ups. But there are some decent moments where it raises your expectation so high, with the trailer in mind most of us could have thought of a better way to end this and still advertise about DA 2!!!



I'd give Bioware $ 7.00 just because they have consistently brought so much joy. But with Witch Hunt they owe us an apology.

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M4H AIDAH wrote...

I WANNA SEE A DRAGON AGE 3 WITH MY WARDEN IN MORE THEN I WANNA SEE THIS NEW GUY IN DRAGON AGE 2


I'm with ya on that one bro.

#1486
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DarthToffee wrote...

I'd give Bioware $ 7.00 just because they have consistently brought so much joy. But with Witch Hunt they owe us an apology.

Yeah, if you need the money that bad, just ask.

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Eurypterid wrote...

I guess I'm in the minority in that I don't particularly want to see 'my warden' carry through to the sequels. For one thing, that would mean more levels and even higher level play, and that's something that I find invariably leads to overpowered characters and tedious game play. I also like creating new characters and building a story for that new character. I feel my warden's story is pretty well done with.

I can't say I'm thrilled with the 'forced' character of Hawke (and I really don't care for the name either), but I'm willing to see how it plays out. I think, since we're going to get to see more of Thedas in DA2 as well as a different perspective on events related to the DA:O events, that a new character makes much more sense than forcing our warden into an extension of his (IMO) already finished story.

Oh man, I'm off topic here. Apologies. Let's turn this back to Witch Hunt I haven't completed Witch Hunt (waiting for the patch at this point), so I can't comment on how it does or doesn't provide 'closure' (how I hate that term), but I'll likely revisit it once I've completed the DLC.


You know, all Gothics have the same Nameless Hero and no matter how powerful he ended in the previous game, he'll start at level 1 in the next game and with some cool explation for that too.

I've started to play WH when Battle.net was under maintenance but I didn't get too much excited with it, specially after I read in a thread about it. The one that Chris double posted the lockdown.. hehehe

I was hoping for something like Leliana's DLC. I wanted to play Morrigan escaping from a Witch Hunt or something. And now this GameSpot review... at least I learned a new word, as English is not my primary... Vapid... lol.

Oh, forgot to ask. What is this bug that a 7 bucks DLC will require a patch to fix? I'm glad Bnet maintenance was pretty fast so I'm back to SC2 while waiting for a patch. It will not take months to be done like the expansion's patch, will it? And then it didn't fix some issues because it wasn't "possible"?

Modifié par RageGT, 15 septembre 2010 - 06:31 .


#1488
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Okay, maybe I'm a little late to this party, and didn't read through sixty pages of posts.

First off, this DLC was beyond disappointing.

Secondly, I've seen some talk about a "bug". 

My character ended up marrying Allistair and becoming Queen.  We accomplished this by letting Morrigan sleep with Allistair and conceive a bastard child by him.  But in this DLC, she says I refused her the ritual--but I didn't.  Is this the bug everyone keeps talking about?

Because seriously, it's bad enough that my character get little recognition for actually being a ruler (okay, I'm a snob)...but even worse that I get to frustratingly watch dialogue about my character describing things that never happened.  I would've loved more of an option like, "Where's the child you conceived by my husband, you harlot?  You're both going to die."

Y'know, not that I'm vindictive or anything.  :D

So is there a patch coming out to fix this or something? 

#1489
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Yes, that's one of the bugs. Another is the fact the autosave at the end of Witch hunt doesn't fire. They're currently working on a patch.

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XFemShepX wrote...



My character ended up marrying Allistair and becoming Queen.  We accomplished this by letting Morrigan sleep with Allistair and conceive a bastard child by him.  But in this DLC, she says I refused her the ritual--but I didn't.  Is this the bug everyone keeps talking about?

...

So is there a patch coming out to fix this or something? 


Yeah, that bug. Characters imported from the post-epilogue of DAO (every save after you leave the coronation room after killing the Archdemon) will have Morrigan behaving as if the Dark Ritual was not performed.

A patch is coming out - actually, according to the last news, it was supposed to come out yesterday.

Modifié par Pedrak, 15 septembre 2010 - 06:28 .


#1491
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Pedrak wrote...

A patch is coming out - actually, according to the last news, it was supposed to come out yesterday.



No, they said they hoped to have it out yesterday. Obviously, that didn't happen. I haven't seen a status update on it today.

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i thought it would give more answers but it gave more questions!!!! but it was kinda cool

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DarthToffee wrote...
I'd give Bioware $ 7.00 just because they have consistently brought so much joy. But with Witch Hunt they owe us an apology.


Other things Bioware owes us an apology for (according to many of the frequenters of the offcial Bioware forums)

Ammo clips in Mass Effect 2
Mass Effect 2 in general
Broken character creators
Every piece of DLC they've released
Dragon Age Origins in general
Not having enough Rape in Dragon Age (Seriously)
etc... etc... etc...

My biggest issue with the complaints Bioware has received about Dragon Age is that people seem to forget Dragon Age's world was set up to be similar to any other fantasy world.  Huge with a ton of places for different stories to take place.  An example being the world of the Elder Scrolls with Cyrodil, Morrowing, Skyrim etc...

Bioware spoiled gamers with Mass Effect by creating a series of games where you get to continue with the same characters over several adventures with your choices having consequences.

Dragon Age Orgins was never intended to be the first game in a trilogy.  Due to this I fail to see any reason why answer definite answer on Morrigan is necessary.  If they were so inclined they could make Dragon Age 3 take place 500 years after the Blight in DAO and have it set in Antiva.

As far as Witch Hunt.  It was okay.  I'll agree I'd have liked to see more effort go into the DLC.  For me I'd have rather seen a new DLC origin tied into the main campaign than a few modules but whatever.

#1494
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Eurypterid wrote...

I guess I'm in the minority in that I don't particularly want to see 'my warden' carry through to the sequels. For one thing, that would mean more levels and even higher level play, and that's something that I find invariably leads to overpowered characters and tedious game play. I also like creating new characters and building a story for that new character. I feel my warden's story is pretty well done with.

I can't say I'm thrilled with the 'forced' character of Hawke (and I really don't care for the name either), but I'm willing to see how it plays out. I think, since we're going to get to see more of Thedas in DA2 as well as a different perspective on events related to the DA:O events, that a new character makes much more sense than forcing our warden into an extension of his (IMO) already finished story.

Oh man, I'm off topic here. Apologies. Let's turn this back to Witch Hunt I haven't completed Witch Hunt (waiting for the patch at this point), so I can't comment on how it does or doesn't provide 'closure' (how I hate that term), but I'll likely revisit it once I've completed the DLC.


-nah you aren't the only one,  I agree that my warden needs to retire. A fresh start is always best.

I would agree, having a premade character ruins the personalization in a way, but who knows how it will play out.

There is no closure in the DLC :( It's more of a...  "umm did my game just bug or is it rly over?" moment. The only information provided was just the obvious about you know who. I honestly loved everything leading up to the end until it just cuts off to the credits which ruined it.

#1495
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aftohsix wrote...

Dragon Age Orgins was never intended to be the first game in a trilogy.  Due to this I fail to see any reason why answer definite answer on Morrigan is necessary.  If they were so inclined they could make Dragon Age 3 take place 500 years after the Blight in DAO and have it set in Antiva.

As far as Witch Hunt.  It was okay.  I'll agree I'd have liked to see more effort go into the DLC.  For me I'd have rather seen a new DLC origin tied into the main campaign than a few modules but whatever.


Well... the problem was being told "Confront Morrigan in this dramatic conclusion to the Origins storyline." My thoughts of a dramatic conclusion to an awesome game would be... a godly ending. :(

#1496
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it wasn't good. but i was happy to import my warden and that's good enough for me.

but the story was weeeeaak. i did like ariane and finn. but.. i mean their joining you was insanely random and poorly written, especially finn.

the other thing that bothers me is the last autosave is... before you fight the strider. meaning even if you can import from this file, you might as well have imported from awakening, because this and golems have 0 decisions that are imported. so what's the point of this dlc? well you find out more about the mirror's which is cool if you were dalish, and you can talk to morrigan and have nothing special revealed. overall it was satisfying enough simply because i could have one last adventure with my warden

Modifié par i love lamp x3, 15 septembre 2010 - 08:35 .


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i love lamp x3 wrote...

the other thing that bothers me is the last autosave is... before you fight the strider. meaning even if you can import from this file, you might as well have imported from awakening, because this and golems have 0 decisions that are imported. so what's the point of this dlc?


I believe that's one of the bugs they're fixing. My understanding is there's an autosave that's supposed to fire at the end, but it doesn't.

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Eurypterid wrote...
Yes, that's one of the bugs. Another is the fact the autosave at the end of Witch hunt doesn't fire. They're currently working on a patch.


Quick question:  if we've already played through Witch Hunt, will we have to re-play our Warden in order to create the autosave?  Or will we simply have to reload the last save and go through the last encounter again?

#1499
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I believe you can just load the last save. Don't quote me on that, but that's what I gather from things I've read in the Announcements forum threads.



On a side note, here's Victor's latest update:



Victor Wachter wrote...



Update: In the latest patch, the fix that was supposed to auto-save the game upon resolution did not pass through QA. So, programming is at work on a new version to send to QA today. I am not yet sure if there will be a release today, but we should know soon.




From the "Seeking Beta testers" thread in the Announcements forum.

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I thought it was prety fun. But maybe to expesive.

It wasn't really "the cliffhanger" I hoped for but it was fun.