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#1551
SonRyu

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[quote]caffeine_fiend wrote...


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SonRyu is referring to the Witch Hunt DLC. As is evidenced in his
posts on this thread, he is a fellow fan of DA, but like many DA
fans, he is not a fan of the Witch Hunt DLC. The poll he is referring
to is this one....
http://social.bioware.com/poll.php?user=1282162&poll_id=11167   I happen to share SonRyu's opinion about Witch Hunt and like him
I'm a huge fan of DA. I started playing video games in high school in
the 1970's, when they originally came out, and I've been playing them
in my spare time ever since. I'm a published fantasy author and even
though that doesn't make my opiinion any greater or less than any
body else's opinion of this DLC it is my opinion. Every story has a
beginning, a middle and an end. Every great story has characters who
you grow to love or hate. My feeling is that this DLC destroyed the
DA story not only because it was unpolished and insubstantial, but
because it plodded through the final chapter of a great story like a
sway-backed horse plodding through a muddy field on its way to the
glue factory just to die a mile short of its destination. Witch
Hunt's complete lake of  catharsis took away from the great storyline of DA. Like I said everyone has an
opinion and this is mine. However everyone's opinion should be
respected, whether or not they're contrary to your own.

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#1552
Morneblade

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I can sum it up in one word. Horrible.




#1553
pc_wizard

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I found this DLC to be quite enjoyable, despite it's the fact that it's short, features recycled areas and is a bit disappointing story-wise.

#1554
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The DLC was garbage.

#1555
gamestress

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It occurs to me that Morrigan should have been the BI character. My female characters, although her BFF's simply have no RP motivation to go after her, much less *insert spoiler ending here*.



Witch Hunt was ok for a say, a five dollar DLC, but definitely not the ending our characters deserved. I am looking forward to DA2, but I'm preparing myself for a completely different experience, cutting the cords on my dear GW's, and hoping for the best.


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pc_wizard wrote...

I found this DLC to be quite enjoyable, despite it's the fact that it's short, features recycled areas and is a bit disappointing story-wise.


So... what DID you enjoy?

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tbsking wrote...

pc_wizard wrote...

I found this DLC to be quite enjoyable, despite it's the fact that it's short, features recycled areas and is a bit disappointing story-wise.


So... what DID you enjoy?


I left that part out because I didn't want to spoil anything. Without giving away much, I liked the NPC's, the banter between them, the entire search-for-something-magical-see-what-we-get atmosphere of the quests, which is in my opinion missing from most of the newer RPG's. It isn't exceptional, but better than I expected, with the overall feel of an old school adventure.

#1558
Hulk Hsieh

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I think the developers read too much Harry Potter before making WH.

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Hulk Hsieh wrote...

I think the developers read too much Harry Potter before making WH.


Not sure what you mean by that.. Harry Potter(only saw the movie) has well developed characters , good story and is quite enjoyable. Which is a direct opposite of WH.

WH feels like one of these cheap "B" movies you see at Wal-Mart, actually these movies are typically cheaper. I can only watch these movies once, sometimes I fast forward.

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its said that witch hunt is the end of origins but i think we will hear from morrigan again and i also like how you can hear characters in witch hunt talk about the hero of ferelden hawk from DA2 its exciting

#1561
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Before I played Witch Hunt, I had to finish Awakening--was waiting for that patch that came in some time ago (which was terrible in regards to the actual game, but I liked the extended epilogue--wished that was in Origins), and then got my butt beaten into a pulp in the Golems DLC (sucked, but felt accomplished after beating it on nightmare). To top that off, I just finished Witch Hunt, and I was taken right out of immersion when Morrigan started making stuff up...



This was a weekend of punishment :(. I guess we Morrigan fans are kind of greedy because the Leliana, especially Zevran, and Alistair lovers didn't get much either. I guess they cut short our DLC 2 years because of DA: 2. I still hope we get something else with Morrigan--maybe a short dialogue between Hawke and someone from the Warden's past. The only part I'm glad of is that they didn't change Morrigan's voice actor--they did change *enchanters voice actor, though*.

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Guldan323 wrote...

Hulk Hsieh wrote...

I think the developers read too much Harry Potter before making WH.


Not sure what you mean by that.. Harry Potter(only saw the movie) has well developed characters , good story and is quite enjoyable. Which is a direct opposite of WH.

WH feels like one of these cheap "B" movies you see at Wal-Mart, actually these movies are typically cheaper. I can only watch these movies once, sometimes I fast forward.


If you're 10-13 years old, maybe.

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wowpwnslol wrote...

Guldan323 wrote...

Hulk Hsieh wrote...

I think the developers read too much Harry Potter before making WH.


Not sure what you mean by that.. Harry Potter(only saw the movie) has well developed characters , good story and is quite enjoyable. Which is a direct opposite of WH.

WH feels like one of these cheap "B" movies you see at Wal-Mart, actually these movies are typically cheaper. I can only watch these movies once, sometimes I fast forward.


If you're 10-13 years old, maybe.


Nope, Im 31. The comparison was between WH and HP, not HP and lets say LOTR.

#1564
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i dunno. i found it dull, easy and disappointing. i think the original writer(s) werent a part of it, coz if they were, we wouldnt see this.. sorry - abomination. it could be a long and tedious DLC, larger than any previous one. and it deserved to be the largest. it had the reason to be, for all the wusses like me out there who got burned at the end of origins and didnt have thier wounds treated yet. i think it even had the potential to be the sequel/part of it.

shame it came down to this. hopefully they will redeem themselfs.

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i kinda dislike the way it completely tacked on that hang on

SPOILERS

bit about a wold beyond the fade stuff


#1566
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As far as I'm aware DAO was based on a best selling book. Bioware purchased the game copyright for the book and the rest was easy peasy. A sequel to the book hasn't been published, so Bioware have to make stuff up for the DLCs, using secondhand writers to keep costs down. Of all the DLCs being released only 2 are worthy of purchase: Shale and Leliana's Song, the rest are rubbish. This will continue to be the case. I don't understand why people buy them when announced. I always let the purchasers be the beta testers before I decide to buy.



Morrigan said in the original, "You will never see or hear from me again." There isn't a follow up book, hence a new DA2. The Bioware Morrigan DLC is pure guesswork, and as you've seen it's pure rubbish, money thrown down the drain, not good during a recession. I'm sure a Modder could write a better scripted version, which would be free and contain a plausable ending, even though it would still be pure guesswork. This is the direction you should all go for a Morrigan sequel.




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ilovedragonageverymuch

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MindYerBeak wrote...

As far as I'm aware DAO was based on a best selling book. Bioware purchased the game copyright for the book and the rest was easy peasy. A sequel to the book hasn't been published, so Bioware have to make stuff up for the DLCs, using secondhand writers to keep costs down. Of all the DLCs being released only 2 are worthy of purchase: Shale and Leliana's Song, the rest are rubbish. This will continue to be the case. I don't understand why people buy them when announced. I always let the purchasers be the beta testers before I decide to buy.

Morrigan said in the original, "You will never see or hear from me again." There isn't a follow up book, hence a new DA2. The Bioware Morrigan DLC is pure guesswork, and as you've seen it's pure rubbish, money thrown down the drain, not good during a recession. I'm sure a Modder could write a better scripted version, which would be free and contain a plausable ending, even though it would still be pure guesswork. This is the direction you should all go for a Morrigan sequel.


guess work or not, i dont believe this is what they came up with. if thats the case. post the problem on the forum, and ppl will write such stories you wouldnt even believe it. if you cant make up a story, let the ppl do it. course there will be a load of idiots, but theres bound to be gold. this could be an incredible story, the best ive seen, in fact.

#1568
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The author of the book made an excellent job of the ending, in that it left you hanging in the air and hoping for a sequel. Perhaps if a book sequel is made we'll see DAO 3 with the Morrigan saga resolved. If so the original characters would be redundant, since the baby has to grow up and our Dearly Beloveds would be dead from the Taint. It would be a gripping tale if hunting her down and to meet up with her halfway through, at which time she would ask for help for one reason or another, and become a party member.



A team of Modders and writers could easily produce a plausible Mod, though purely a subjective ending, and would resolve the hanging in the air syndrome and provide closure. It may take a long time to finish, but the wait would be well worthwhile, and I'm sure the Morrigan Closure Mod would be voted the best Mod of all time. Wait for Bioware and you'll never have closure, unless the 2nd book, if produced, was also a best seller. Somehow I don't think a book sequel will be produced, the ending was excellent and the author will want to move on. Why run the risk of spoiling a brilliant ending? Only the author of the book could give proper closure, but a well produced, well written Mod would be the answer to everyones prayers.



It's the only way to go, folks, start pestering the Modders to form a team and make a Morrigan Closure Mod. Hunting down Morrigan and finally obtaining closure can only be done by the Modders, Bioware are most unlikely ever to produce a sequel. A sequel would need to be authorised by the original author and he would need to be paid Big Bucks, as well as a highly paid writing team.



Keep up the good work, folks. Purchase DA2 on the day of release and evaluate it for me. I'll await positive or negative responses before I decide to purchase.




#1569
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Wow that was bad. What a hollow way to reach Maximum GamerScore. It's difficult to describe how truly bad that DLC was.

After spending maximum dollars on this game (collectors edition & all DLC), I feel like Bioware just rubbed my face in something really smelly. I actually feel insulted. Better they released nothing than that trash.

The combat was frighteningly easy, even on hard, the locations were recycled, the story was lame, and the ending was even worse.

How can the ME2 DLC and the DA:O DLC have such a massive gulf in quality? Is it only because Bioware were so ridiculed after their DLC efforts from ME1? Do people have to moan for months to get some real effort put in for DA2 DLC? Assuming people still bother to buy it of course.

I'm really surprised they let it end that horribly.

Modifié par bliss point, 27 septembre 2010 - 12:03 .


#1570
ilovedragonageverymuch

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bliss point wrote...
Wow that was bad. What a hollow way to reach Maximum GamerScore. It's difficult to describe how truly bad that DLC was.
I'm really surprised they let it end that horribly.


Yes. And the fact this DLC had a large emotional issue involved, makes it all the worse.
As the believers say: the lord given, and the lord taken - he gave us DA: O, and then took our souls with the DLCs.

Pity. -.-

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It was incredibly short and its ending left me barely satisfied. Despite that, I enjoyed it from the effort put into camera-work, new areas, party banter and quests. But the poor plot weights heavily and it's a constant reminder of what this DLC could've been. I give it an 'average' rating.

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As much as I have loved the DA series so far, especially Morrigan, Witch Hunt was steaming turd. Everything is recycled, no answers are given, unlike what you're led to believe. If you have any desire to see any kind of story line progression between the Morrigan-Warden relationship after the main story, you will be sorely dissappointed. However, if you are looking for a very meager, heavily recycled, buggy piece of dissappointment that does nothing to satisfy the story line, this is the DLC just for you.

For shame BioWare. This is a real low-point releasing this junk. I usually buy most pieces of DLC for the games. ME2 and DA both. After this garbage, I'm going to reconsider and wait for the bulk of reviews to be released before making any decisions.

If you haven't bought it, I would suggest just saving your money until DA2 is released. It's not worth it anyways.

:(:(:(:(

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Bioware and the Dragon Age dev team should be ashamed to release this complete utter garbage.

let me spell it out Mr Big Shot Gaider...COMPLETE UTTER RUBBISH,we got sold a stinker.

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Question:



Does it matter if you import an Awakening save file or DAO save file into Witch Hunt? Im on PS3 and i havnt downloaded any updates for it, and it thought i didnt do Dark Ritual, im just wondering if importing Awakening has anything to do with it?

#1575
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KLUME777 wrote...

Question:

Does it matter if you import an Awakening save file or DAO save file into Witch Hunt? Im on PS3 and i havnt downloaded any updates for it, and it thought i didnt do Dark Ritual, im just wondering if importing Awakening has anything to do with it?


For it to work you need to import a save before the archdemon battle as far as i know. it didnt work for me as well.. untill i uploaded a save before the battle - then it worked well.

youll know it got triggered if you get the option to say to your dog "youll help me get back my child wont you?"