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Bring Down the Sky was a bit of boring Mako driving plus shooting in a big room. Had very little storyline at all, and only a simple reward that didn't last very long. Pinnacle Station was very small and ultimately pointless. I didn't enjoy the ME1 DLC very much.

The ME2 on the other hand I really liked.

There's more story to most of the ME2 DLC, and all of them contain some type of research upgrade that you can use. Some of them in particular are waaaay better than anything they offered for ME1. I find Lair of the Shadow Broker to be the very best mission in ME2, for example.

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Spuudle: so, there were only 2 DLC for ME1?? And how much time was there between the game release and the DLC releases?
For Dragon Age, there were 8 DLC's and an expansion released over 8 months. I'm willing to concede that these DLC were probably not as good as the ME1 DLC because of the tight release schedule that some greedy Bioware exec imposed on the dev team.


Yes, there were only two dlc for me1. I didnt get into me until dec 2008 so I dont know how much time elapsed.  I see your point but im not actually comparing say Witch Hunt to LOtSB for example. LOtSB did blow me away and id have liked that for DA dlc but that was not my point. All I was trying to say, was that I dont think that lack of Dev time, is the only/main reason why the dlc's for DA were poor.  DA dlc for example is the only bugged dlc I have ever bought via the live marketplace. Like many, I feel rushed, poorly written, bugs and reused environments. Now, ME2 made a massive leap from ME1 and I am sure DA2 will do the same. I just dont think that lack of development time is the reason behind the poor DA dlc though. How some of these even made it onto live is beyond me.  I do agree with you regarding the main games though, like i said

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what do you prefer? 2 good DLCs or 8 bad?  'nuff said.

nothing can explain how the heck we got one of the best RPGs ever with some of the worst DLCs ever.

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While Bring Down the Sky was generally well received, there were a LOT of complaints about Pinnacle Station. Personally, I don't think the ME franchise's track record has any bearing on Dragon Age's. I don't even know if they've announced any plans for DLC for DA2 anyway. As far as the DA"O DLC goes, I didn't buy what didn't interest me. Everything else I bought I thought was worth the money (although I've not completed Witch Hunt yet - got side tracked with Planescape:Torment right now).

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I wouldn't say all the DA DLC were bad. I enjoyed all of the ones I purchased which did not include DC. And even from what has been posted here, not everybody liked the ME1 DLC either. I'd rather have them crank out a lot of DLC for which I have the freedom to pick and choose which ones I want to purchase.

Like any informed buyer, I researched Darkspawn Chronicles before I decided that I didn't want to buy it. If you bought a DLC without checking into it, then you have only yourself to blame for being disappointed. Caveat emptor! Buyer beware!

An explanation for the medicre quality of the DLC - corporate greed. The devs were given the order - crank out as many as possible in as short a time-frame as possible. Sacrifice QA if necessary.

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Sorry when i finished DA: origins original playthrough i couldnt sleep that night coz it was so awesome. after i finished the witch hunt DLC i couldnt sleep because i was so pissed. i had to rewrite the story in my mind just so i wont go berserk on my pc.



i need a freaking drink.

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Zy-El wrote...
Like any informed buyer, I researched Darkspawn Chronicles before I decided that I didn't want to buy it. If you bought a DLC without checking into it, then you have only yourself to blame for being disappointed. Caveat emptor! Buyer beware!


While I'm sure I could have figured out the whole ogre achievement was bugged, I don't think you can blame me for not researching that part of it.

I will say that although I've been disappointed with the quality of some of the DAO DLC, I haven't actually regretted buying it.

There have been many cost comparisons so far, but I think for many people (including myself), the cost of the DLC is not the real concern, it's how much fun you're getting out of the spare time you spend playing it. I can't honestly say any of the DLC was so bad I didn't enjoy playing it at least once, and now I enjoy having the items I unlocked.

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MindYerBeak wrote...

As far as I'm aware DAO was based on a best selling book. Bioware purchased the game copyright for the book and the rest was easy peasy. A sequel to the book hasn't been published, so Bioware have to make stuff up for the DLCs, using secondhand writers to keep costs down. Of all the DLCs being released only 2 are worthy of purchase: Shale and Leliana's Song, the rest are rubbish. This will continue to be the case. I don't understand why people buy them when announced. I always let the purchasers be the beta testers before I decide to buy.

Morrigan said in the original, "You will never see or hear from me again." There isn't a follow up book, hence a new DA2. The Bioware Morrigan DLC is pure guesswork, and as you've seen it's pure rubbish, money thrown down the drain, not good during a recession. I'm sure a Modder could write a better scripted version, which would be free and contain a plausable ending, even though it would still be pure guesswork. This is the direction you should all go for a Morrigan sequel.

David Gaider wrote a couple of books as Prequels to the storyline of DAO. They were ok, but to use analogy from earlier in this thread they were B-rate at best. I ordered them when they came out as something to read ahead of game launch and I don't regret it. But they are not shining examples of Fantasy literature by any means. He was an active poster on these forums for a while and I suspect he could probably write a much better series give time and free reign. But there were just books to enhance to the new franchise following the recent trend to diversify the IP brand.

I have not bought a DLC since Warden's Keep due to the general trend of negativity between here and game review sites. trying to be as impartial as possible I believe that BioWare either did a poor job holding up their end of content generation, or we as customers just expected too much from them. I am glad I bought DAO but I have come away from the experience with a lesson. NEVER buy a game based on the potential of its DLC.

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ilovedragonageverymuch wrote...

what do you prefer? 2 good DLCs or 8 bad?  'nuff said.

nothing can explain how the heck we got one of the best RPGs ever with some of the worst DLCs ever.

The thing is, all DA DLC doesn't really give you anything new or you haven't already experienced. All it does is basically add a new area to the game and tell you to do something you're very familiar with. So you don't even feel like you're playing something "extra", but rather you feel as though you're doing a regular mission in the main game.

DLC should be different from what the main game has to offer. This isn't the case with the DLC in Origins; hence the dissatisfaction on the fanbase's part.

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Eurypterid wrote...

MindYerBeak wrote...

As far as I'm aware DAO was based on a best selling book. Bioware purchased the game copyright for the book and the rest was easy peasy. A sequel to the book hasn't been published, so Bioware have to make stuff up for the DLCs, using secondhand writers to keep costs down. Of all the DLCs being released only 2 are worthy of purchase: Shale and Leliana's Song, the rest are rubbish. This will continue to be the case. I don't understand why people buy them when announced. I always let the purchasers be the beta testers before I decide to buy.

Morrigan said in the original, "You will never see or hear from me again." There isn't a follow up book, hence a new DA2. The Bioware Morrigan DLC is pure guesswork, and as you've seen it's pure rubbish, money thrown down the drain, not good during a recession. I'm sure a Modder could write a better scripted version, which would be free and contain a plausable ending, even though it would still be pure guesswork. This is the direction you should all go for a Morrigan sequel.


I realize this is 4 days old, but I
just saw it. Not to put too fine an edge on it, but your post is
completely off the mark. I don't know where you got your info, but it's
totally wrong.

Dragon Age is an original IP and not
based on a book. David Gaider, the lead writer for DA:O wrote two
'prequel' novels set before the events of DA:O, but they were
written/released after the game was developed and released itself. Those
are the only novel tie-ins to Dragon Age to date.



I figured MindYerBeak was lying or something after trying to look up said book myself, but its always good to have official word, in case the outrageous happened to be true.

Thanks for clearing that up, Eurypterid :lol:

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

ilovedragonageverymuch wrote...

what do you prefer? 2 good DLCs or 8 bad?  'nuff said.

nothing can explain how the heck we got one of the best RPGs ever with some of the worst DLCs ever.

The thing is, all DA DLC doesn't really give you anything new or you haven't already experienced. All it does is basically add a new area to the game and tell you to do something you're very familiar with. So you don't even feel like you're playing something "extra", but rather you feel as though you're doing a regular mission in the main game.

DLC should be different from what the main game has to offer. This isn't the case with the DLC in Origins; hence the dissatisfaction on the fanbase's part.


I dont mind playing some similar things. my problem is that he DLCs are horrible not only in the quests and game play, but also really bad storywise. have you liked witchhunt from the story perpective? visit 4 zones, talk to 4 ppl, thats it? oh, right. kill some stuff too. yea.

srsly. some ppl were obssesed with finding morrigan in the end, and the original game didnt allow that. so for them, and for my self, this DLC was a closing chapter. I imiagined far greater plots while sitting in the bathroom. freaking hell, this could be a subplot in DA2 and ppl would praise it. but NO - get this DLC and stfu. we finished the warden off. now you play with hawke.

I dont think the warden's story ended with a freaking mirror, and i hope it wont end at that.

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I waited ages to buy this as was play ME 1 & 2 and now i've done it i am so dissapointed, it said it would answer questions, which questions has it answered? none that i had! i'm worse off now than i was before i started palying this an hour ago, it was short, easy, boring and didn't give the things promised, not really looking forward to DA2, i cant imagine have to play a character restricted to a 2 handed sword staff thing, i always duel weild and making the character so ridid is gonna really upset me so may well give it a wide berth unless i hear its good, in short i feel like i've been shafted, thanks for nothing BW & EA.

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Gave us more questions than answers am I right? >.>

I mean, for me, I loved playing Witch Hunt due to the fact I romanced Morrigan, had +100 and gave everything under the sun for her. Completed the DR and wore the ring at all times...



So I thought "Hey, the purpose of Witch Hunt will be to give the Warden and Morrigan bulk face time and answers hey" ... Instead what 5 minutes max near the end???



Not what I expected I'll admit... But passable -__-

And as for gametime ... 2-3 hrs? Hmmm

Well, all in all it was Okay ... I have a feelin its not the last time we'll see the likes of Morrigan or Warden (I hope so anways)

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i have one question, im new in that i just download the witch huner story but i have no the 1.04 version, is there any one who could tell me where i can get it?

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carlandalf wrote...

i have one question, im new in that i just download the witch huner story but i have no the 1.04 version, is there any one who could tell me where i can get it?


Run Forest, run!!!   Please run away, don't do it...

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so... did they fixed the DR bug?

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legluvva wrote...

not really looking forward to DA2, i cant imagine have to play a character restricted to a 2 handed sword staff thing, i always duel weild and making the character so ridid is gonna really upset me so may well give it a wide berth unless i hear its good, in short i feel like i've been shafted, thanks for nothing BW & EA.


My favourite part in this post is that you think we can only use "2 handed sword staff thing" in Dragon Age 2.

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Jon Jern wrote...

legluvva wrote...

not really looking forward to DA2, i cant imagine have to play a character restricted to a 2 handed sword staff thing, i always duel weild and making the character so ridid is gonna really upset me so may well give it a wide berth unless i hear its good, in short i feel like i've been shafted, thanks for nothing BW & EA.


My favourite part in this post is that you think we can only use "2 handed sword staff thing" in Dragon Age 2.


LOL, I agree. I know that some people are unhappy with change and that BW are not going to be able to please everyone, but we dont know anything of the sort.  If this statement was based on what we have seen so far from a brief trailer, then I suspect that this person is not going to be happy no matter what the end product turns out to be.

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I couldn't help but laugh in a sad form of way when the DLC ended in the middle of no where. Surely Bioware could do better, it's quite below the standard I've grown accustomed to over the years as a loyal Bioware shopper.



I'll consider this "adventure" the first line in the popular saying :



Fool me once, shame on you.....

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I think the rule of thumb with DLC is: Don't assume it will be anywhere near the production value of the original game until you read the reviews.



They are add-ons created to add value to the company where the expectation is that they won't sell nearly as many copies as the original game, thusly, they have severely smaller budgets. Some have been good, others mediocre. Buyer beware.

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DLC like this tripe may make the company a few dollars in the short term, but can they not see the long term damage is causes. For eg. who would rush out and buy the next DA DLC if it were to be released, and who would wait for player reviews after being burnt with WH?



I for one, will be much more careful with DLC from BW and EA.

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cobretti1818 wrote...

DLC like this tripe may make the company a few dollars in the short term, but can they not see the long term damage is causes. For eg. who would rush out and buy the next DA DLC if it were to be released, and who would wait for player reviews after being burnt with WH?

I for one, will be much more careful with DLC from BW and EA.


Then I suppose its a good thing that Witch Hunt is the last DLC for DA:O then... Am I right? ^_^
They could have fleshed out Witch Hunt so so so much more IMO ... Really hoped deep down that they would have ... Witch Hunt had a lot of potential.

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My problem was that in WH, my choices from DA wasnt imported. I have used the same char from DA and thru the expansion and all DLCs. I was pretty bumed that important stuff like that didnt get importet :( 

Im just happy that GoA was as good as it was

Modifié par Rezuam, 06 octobre 2010 - 07:01 .


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So are they going to patch the version for consoles or not.

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online blowfish wrote...

So are they going to patch the version for consoles or not.


So are they going to patch the version for PC or not


:(