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[nikki191]

Multifarious Algorithm wrote...

There's really no reason Liara couldn't operate the Shadow Broker network from the Normandy. A quantum entanglement communicator is apparently powerful enough to carry 3D holographs, so I'm sure with her new found position she could obtain one and link it to the Normandy so she could work via telepresence.

That, and hooking up EDI to the Shadow Broker network would be incredibly useful.

id suggest hooking legion up to it but he'd just lag the entire network with gaming

[eternalnightmare13]

Does this DLC take int account whether or not you sold info about Cerebus to the Shadow Broker in ME1?

[Harts]

Played Lair of the shadow Broker this weekend and loved it. It was funny, had great action and of course, it had Liara:)

Very well done, Bioware!

[Mark B]

eternalnightmare13 wrote...

Does this DLC take int account whether or not you sold info about Cerebus to the Shadow Broker in ME1?

Doesn't seem to, although I never handed over the information to him in any ME1 characters, and thought that alienating him would come back to bite me at some point.  Not mentioned once.

[hismastersvoice]

didymos1120 wrote...

But, here's the real killer:  it's a permanent, point-to-point link.  You can't talk to anybody other than TIM with the thing.  You'd have to install a new QEC for every single person you wanted to give access to.  The Broker likely has thousands of agents and regular freelancers at minimum.  That's...impractical, to say the least.

But of course the link would be between the SB ship base and Normandy. Operatives would just continue to use their standard comm links to the base, where the transmissions would be relayed onto the QEC. Messy, but doable, especially with Feron doing preliminary sifting of the data.

Personally, I woudn't worry about Liara not being an important part of ME3 plot. BioWare have had their fill of spite and bile thrown at them for the way they handled the character in ME3 (well, it was rather hamfisted, so some bile was due), they won't be making the same mistake again, not after the glowing reception of LairDLC.

Modifié par hismastersvoice, 12 septembre 2010 - 07:19 .

[eternalnightmare13]

Mark B wrote...

eternalnightmare13 wrote...

Does this DLC take int account whether or not you sold info about Cerebus to the Shadow Broker in ME1?

Doesn't seem to, although I never handed over the information to him in any ME1 characters, and thought that alienating him would come back to bite me at some point.  Not mentioned once.

Thanks for the response.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Mark B wrote...

Sir Ulrich, I see your points on the default ME2 Shep; and would be interested in the outcomes of not seeing Liara (Quick question here: does this mean no Viper?) and leaving Tali.



I think the SB outcome has assumed (to many people) a significance to ME3 that may or may not play out. With this in mind, together with the other decisions that could/should have a major impact (Rachni queen sprinds to mind), I think ME3 is going to have to be a masterpiece of planning (and 3 disks) just so some people don't feel cheated by some things not having made any difference.

I guess it all depends on what flags are getting put through into ME3 from ME2. Going on from something you said after the above quoted post, I don't think sadly that the whole 'Give/Don't give Shadow Broker the intel on Cerberus' in ME actually got put through in the import sadly.

That all being said, Casey Hudson has already stated that over 1000 variables are being brought into ME3 from ME2 and whilst that was bound to be the case just because of the variables for the surviving squadmates alone. I think it holds hope that our choices both during the main game and in this DLC and the upcoming other bridging the gap DLCs are definitly going to have some sort of impact on ME3 and I would wager some will be more than just a 'tannoy announcement' or email like some of the stuff that went from ME to ME2.

That is why I think it is good to have at least one Shep that doesn't do the DLC whilst another might.

[Mark B]

Sir Ulrich, I looked at the ME1 flags listed in Gibbeds save editor, which I think is complete and you're right, this choice is not included there.

Taking what you say on board, I might try the shortest possible survivable play through, with the minimum number of squaddies - don't wake Grunt, don't activate Legion, etc.
The question is; which ship upgrades do you NEED to survive, armour from Jacob, scanner from Miranda, cannons from Garrus so the only missing thing may be the shield upgrade from Tali.

EDIT: I just checked and if I don't have the shields, I'll lose a squaddie, could be a problem that. I'd only have Mordin, Garrus, Miri, Jacob and Jack and with no tech specialist someone else is gonna die I think leaving me and 3 team members to split up? Actually that doesn't work because I biotic shield caster, plus three in the squad means there is no other team!  Is this even possible?
Of course this assumes I can avoid picking up Kasumi and Zaeed.

Modifié par Mark B, 12 septembre 2010 - 08:33 .

[morrie23]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...
I guess it all depends on what flags are getting put through into ME3 from ME2. Going on from something you said after the above quoted post, I don't think sadly that the whole 'Give/Don't give Shadow Broker the intel on Cerberus' in ME actually got put through in the import sadly.

That all being said, Casey Hudson has already stated that over 1000 variables are being brought into ME3 from ME2 and whilst that was bound to be the case just because of the variables for the surviving squadmates alone. I think it holds hope that our choices both during the main game and in this DLC and the upcoming other bridging the gap DLCs are definitly going to have some sort of impact on ME3 and I would wager some will be more than just a 'tannoy announcement' or email like some of the stuff that went from ME to ME2.

That is why I think it is good to have at least one Shep that doesn't do the DLC whilst another might.

I wouldn't worry about LotSB and other bridging DLCs not having an impact, I believe Christina Norman said that they would. If you notice, there aren't any major story choices in LotSB, so if you import a save that hasn't played through the DLC they can just apply the canon ending (Liara becoming SB, no choice in that).

[LOST GAM3R]

Just started playing. I hope Liara doesn't mind my Tali romance. Hehe...

[ilikeicehockey]

info about miranda was a bit weird in the dossiers. due to her genetic code or something like that she's infertile and she also tried to get laid with some strangers in online dating. Seriously considering sticking with liara instead of moving over to miranda.

[Mecha Tengu]

ilikeicehockey wrote...

info about miranda was a bit weird in the dossiers. due to her genetic code or something like that she's infertile and she also tried to get laid with some strangers in online dating. Seriously considering sticking with liara instead of moving over to miranda.

so then no long term commitments with Miranda (if ya know what I mean)

you're free to **** her anytime you want and nothing bad will come out of it hehe

[shnizzler93]

already asked it in another thread, but did anyone else feel the fight on the outside of SB's ship was slightly reminiscent of the battle on the Citadel?

[Mark B]

shnizzler93 wrote...

already asked it in another thread, but did anyone else feel the fight on the outside of SB's ship was slightly reminiscent of the battle on the Citadel?

As soon as I got to that first ramp I was thinking "hold on, I've been here before...".

[Lord Aeducan]

Mealon got owned in the video gallery!

[Lone_Wolf_511]

Can someone tell me about the permutations that occur in the dlc? I just don't have the time to replay it a few times currently.



So if you do remain faithful to Liara is it any different? Does she make a different comment about each of your partners when she comes to the Normandy?



Has someone got a list of what the Shadow Broker says about each of your companions?



And when Liara asks how Shepard really is, what do the different answers give?

[OneDrunkMonk]

You know...I don't get it, a Yahg as the Shadow Broker. I know he killed the former Shadow Broker (apparently taking the Yahg for granted, I suppose, and getting his/herself killed) and took his/her place. But all the information I've gathered on the Yahg suggests they are no more suited for information gathering than the Krogan. I can't imagine a Yahg behind a desk. Now a Salarian, that would be a more obvious choice.



If BioWare actually left any room as to the Shadow Broker's identity I'd suggest that we still do not know who he/she is. That the Yahg was just another puppet, a decoy.

[Viper-sfm]

Anyone tried playing the DLC before the suicide mission and going back to talk to Liara again after the SM? Would be cool if she acknowledged that everything went well and that you are alive.



DLC rocked btw. Best mission in the game by far. Still, I'm mighty pleased with all ME2 DLC so far.

[Tazzmission]

OneDrunkMonk wrote...

You know...I don't get it, a Yahg as the Shadow Broker. I know he killed the former Shadow Broker (apparently taking the Yahg for granted, I suppose, and getting his/herself killed) and took his/her place. But all the information I've gathered on the Yahg suggests they are no more suited for information gathering than the Krogan. I can't imagine a Yahg behind a desk. Now a Salarian, that would be a more obvious choice.

If BioWare actually left any room as to the Shadow Broker's identity I'd suggest that we still do not know who he/she is. That the Yahg was just another puppet, a decoy.

from mass effect wiki




History
When Parnack was discovered by Citadel Council surveyors in 2125 CE, the yahg were a pre-spaceflight civilization with technology equivalent to that of 20th century Earth. A Council delegation of ambassadors made first contact with the yahg and attempted to establish diplomatic relations. Unfortunately, the yahg perceived the ambassadors' attitudes and behavior as equal individuals instead of subordinates as a sign of contempt, and attacked and massacred the entire delegation. Immediately following that incident, the Citadel Council severed all contact with the yahg and declared Parnack off-limits. The Council maintains that the yahg's aggression and obsession with control make them poorly suited to integrate with the galactic community.
Some time after the Council made first contact, the Shadow Broker's agents attempted to abduct a yahg for study. Several had to be killed before the agents found one interested in leaving the planet. After impressive displays of intelligence and learning, on par with the much shorter lived salarians, the Broker arranged for the yahg to covertly take the place of one of his operatives and lead strike teams to gather intelligence and neutralize threats. However, the yahg's violent nature quickly became a problem and orders were given for him to be eliminated. In the middle of sending this order the yahg managed to somehow kill the Shadow Broker and take his place, immediately sending a message rescinding the kill order and demanding a status report on all operations within the next solar day. None of his agents knew that the Shadow Broker had been killed and replaced. The yahg remained Shadow Broker for 60 years, and developed a fearsome reputation, with many of his agents entering his office and never coming out.
It wasn't until the year 2185 that the true nature of the new Shadow Broker was discovered, when Commander Shepard and Liara T'Soni raided his base in an attempt to rescue Feron, a drell who the Broker had captured and tortured for an act of betrayal. The Broker did not survive the encounter.

Modifié par Tazzmission, 13 septembre 2010 - 03:56 .

[eternalnightmare13]

Mark B wrote...

shnizzler93 wrote...

already asked it in another thread, but did anyone else feel the fight on the outside of SB's ship was slightly reminiscent of the battle on the Citadel?

As soon as I got to that first ramp I was thinking "hold on, I've been here before...".

Absolutely.  They did the same thing in Overlord - felt like the missions in Bring Down the Sky in ME1.

[Prince of Kemet]

Lone_Wolf_511 wrote...

Can someone tell me about the permutations that occur in the dlc? I just don't have the time to replay it a few times currently.

So if you do remain faithful to Liara is it any different? Does she make a different comment about each of your partners when she comes to the Normandy?

Has someone got a list of what the Shadow Broker says about each of your companions?

And when Liara asks how Shepard really is, what do the different answers give?

I think that there are two comments per squadmate. One before their loyalty missions and one after. I played with Kasumi before her loyalty mission and the yahg commented that she would not be making it to Hock's party. I doubt that he would say the same thing after completing her mission. I have an extremely busy work schedule but, I will try to playthrough and find out what he says about each squadmate pre and post loyalty mission. It may take a while but, I'll get it done. 

[Sledgehammer44mm]

We need more DLC like this with Ashley etc...

This DLC brought back that feeling I've had since the first and second game where I couldn't help but fall in love with the story and the characters and that feeling of not being able to get enough of Mass Effect!
The other DLC never did give me that feeling as much if at all.


The two boss fights were some of the best boss battles I've played in a while.

Modifié par Sledgehammer44mm, 13 septembre 2010 - 04:40 .

[Liec]

Bennyjammin79 wrote...

Anybody notice what happens after some of the investment opportunties? ie: The journalists now reporting WAY more stories that happen in the terminus. Hit a galactic news kiosk.

You mean new stories? O_o

[Knightstar2001]

For those who have completed LotSB, after reading the Dossiers and watching a good amount of the videos. Have your views or opinion about some of the characters changed due to the info shown?

I was suprised that the Reporter who sounded so pro earth and anti aliens is seeing a Asari.

Same with Tim, I was suprised that the woman he slept with twice in one week was a Asari Matriarch. it just didn't seem to fit with his stance on aliens. There is other info that answers questions and some that create new ones. But I was suprised and touched by some of the info shown.