I finished it. Simply outstanding. Loved the car chase (only messed up once). The weather effects outside the Broker's ship were awe inspiring. Did anyone else bring Samara along and see her say "By the goddess!" when the building exploded? I didn't expect to hear any squadmate dialog. Must have used dialog from the main game.
Lair of the Shadow Broker Discussion (Spoiler Warning!)
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#177
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:27
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Post my spoiler filled review here.
On the whole as a DLC I was supremely impressed, aside from a few hefty audio glitches (dialogue cutting and one even cut all sound and took a full game restart).
Its a great paced DLC, still combat heavy, but clearly thats the basis of ME now. Still, there is a ton of dialogue, both conversation and throwaway interjections. All its written and acted extremely well. From a perspective of a faithful Liara romancer, it dealth with the massacre that was ME2 brilliantly, even acknowledging what a pathetic dodge of their romantic feelings it all was. Sadly thats the beginning of what turns out to be bad news. Honestly, with how this DLC ends (like many of us expected it would) I cant see it as anything but a clear statement that Liara is going to "preoccupied" player a middling support character and not rejoin the squad. I mean, unless Bioware are seriously trying to throw a curveball, I think Liara talking about Shepard facing the reapers without her and hoping hell return is a pretty f**king huge "Im not going to be fighting them alongside you in ME3" statement, and really, regardless of how good the DLC is (and its brilliant), that ultimately ruins the whole thing, just like I knew it would.
My new found apathy to the all but completely confirmed sideline future for Liara, and consequently my lack of caring about the future of the ME story aside, it was still a long, hard, enjoyable play, that was very much worth my money.
Pity it comes at the cost of feeling pretty much like the "swan song" for Liara as a squadmate and someone who participates in the Mass Effect story *right beside* Shepard as a squadmate.
On the whole as a DLC I was supremely impressed, aside from a few hefty audio glitches (dialogue cutting and one even cut all sound and took a full game restart).
Its a great paced DLC, still combat heavy, but clearly thats the basis of ME now. Still, there is a ton of dialogue, both conversation and throwaway interjections. All its written and acted extremely well. From a perspective of a faithful Liara romancer, it dealth with the massacre that was ME2 brilliantly, even acknowledging what a pathetic dodge of their romantic feelings it all was. Sadly thats the beginning of what turns out to be bad news. Honestly, with how this DLC ends (like many of us expected it would) I cant see it as anything but a clear statement that Liara is going to "preoccupied" player a middling support character and not rejoin the squad. I mean, unless Bioware are seriously trying to throw a curveball, I think Liara talking about Shepard facing the reapers without her and hoping hell return is a pretty f**king huge "Im not going to be fighting them alongside you in ME3" statement, and really, regardless of how good the DLC is (and its brilliant), that ultimately ruins the whole thing, just like I knew it would.
My new found apathy to the all but completely confirmed sideline future for Liara, and consequently my lack of caring about the future of the ME story aside, it was still a long, hard, enjoyable play, that was very much worth my money.
Pity it comes at the cost of feeling pretty much like the "swan song" for Liara as a squadmate and someone who participates in the Mass Effect story *right beside* Shepard as a squadmate.
#178
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:27
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Ah, well, I didn't romance Liara in ME1, so I missed out on some things.Darth_Toth wrote...
There is a small mention of them when Liara is on your ship...
#179
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:27
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amazing DLC, although I was disappointed with the Normandy encounter in the end, compared to ME1 that is. But overall best DLC for the game, worth the price. and Love all the little bits of information everywhere. LOVE seeing the korgan beat down the reporter as well haha
#180
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:28
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Alphyn wrote...
Ah, well, I didn't romance Liara in ME1, so I missed out on some things.Darth_Toth wrote...
There is a small mention of them when Liara is on your ship...
You don't have to romance Liara to get her on your ship...
#181
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:28
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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
This is the best DLC I've ever played, period.
Agreed!!
#182
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:29
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Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
Post my spoiler filled review here.
On the whole as a DLC I was supremely impressed, aside from a few hefty audio glitches (dialogue cutting and one even cut all sound and took a full game restart).
Its a great paced DLC, still combat heavy, but clearly thats the basis of ME now. Still, there is a ton of dialogue, both conversation and throwaway interjections. All its written and acted extremely well. From a perspective of a faithful Liara romancer, it dealth with the massacre that was ME2 brilliantly, even acknowledging what a pathetic dodge of their romantic feelings it all was. Sadly thats the beginning of what turns out to be bad news. Honestly, with how this DLC ends (like many of us expected it would) I cant see it as anything but a clear statement that Liara is going to "preoccupied" player a middling support character and not rejoin the squad. I mean, unless Bioware are seriously trying to throw a curveball, I think Liara talking about Shepard facing the reapers without her and hoping hell return is a pretty f**king huge "Im not going to be fighting them alongside you in ME3" statement, and really, regardless of how good the DLC is (and its brilliant), that ultimately ruins the whole thing, just like I knew it would.
My new found apathy to the all but completely confirmed sideline future for Liara, and consequently my lack of caring about the future of the ME story aside, it was still a long, hard, enjoyable play, that was very much worth my money.
Pity it comes at the cost of feeling pretty much like the "swan song" for Liara as a squadmate and someone who participates in the Mass Effect story *right beside* Shepard as a squadmate.
Hey, it could happen. Nick Fury told Tony Stark that he wasn't fit to be an Avenger at the end of Iron Man 2, and we all know how that will turn out.
#183
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:30
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Righto people apparntly its out or people are doing a damn fine job of screwing with me, time for my question!!
In as few spoilers as humanly possible, in the opinion those who have played it (pre or post suicide mission) when is it better to play it, pre or post suicide mission? As in, how heavy was the game shifting to one side, and if I played it, pre suicide mission, does it still feel almost the same?
I am not asking someone to play it twice, god no, but if someone played it pre suicde mission and said it still fit well, thats all I need to know.
In as few spoilers as humanly possible, in the opinion those who have played it (pre or post suicide mission) when is it better to play it, pre or post suicide mission? As in, how heavy was the game shifting to one side, and if I played it, pre suicide mission, does it still feel almost the same?
I am not asking someone to play it twice, god no, but if someone played it pre suicde mission and said it still fit well, thats all I need to know.
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#184
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:30
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can anyone confirm you can romance liara if you didnt stay loyal to her ie got with another squadmate. My character was loyal in ME2 so I had full romance.
#185
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:30
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THIS DLC WAS THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD. It was amazing in every way. Good job Bioware, I was beginning to lose faith in you but damn, I'll never doubt you again.
#187
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:32
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Darth_Toth wrote...
Alphyn wrote...
Nope. No mention.Badpie wrote...
Don't suppose there's any mention at all of Ash or Kaidan right?
KASUMIED AGAIN! DAMN!
There is a small mention of them when Liara is on your ship...
*clings desperately to this unabashedly and pathetically*
#188
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:32
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Spoiler!!!
Is Aethyta Liara's father?
Is Aethyta Liara's father?
#189
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:33
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casedawgz wrote...
Hey, it could happen. Nick Fury told Tony Stark that he wasn't fit to be an Avenger at the end of Iron Man 2, and we all know how that will turn out.
Yes, it could happen, but I cant say Im certain that Bioware are doing the old "say something the complete opposite of what is actually going to happen" this time.
I have to say Im convinced that when Liara talks about Shepard facing down the reapers without her, and making him promise to return, its a pretty solid "she aint going to be beside Shepard in ME3 but on the sidelines" kind of hint.
Im sure Liara will have a very extensive support role as a main character in the plot, but it doesnt compare.
After all, one of the reasons this DLC was so great was the whole "temporary squadmate" deal. It was a short demonstration of why being a squadmate is so important, and I also feel a message that that isnt going to happen for Liara in ME3.
Shell play the Shadow Broker in ME3, and maybe have some nice romance content with a happily ever after epilogue, but I think her actually being in the thick of ME3 is now a pipe dream.
#190
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:33
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Darth_Toth wrote...
Alphyn wrote...
Ah, well, I didn't romance Liara in ME1, so I missed out on some things.Darth_Toth wrote...
There is a small mention of them when Liara is on your ship...
You don't have to romance Liara to get her on your ship...
Could anybody please tell me if the dinner with Kelly is going to be a problem with liara?
#191
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:34
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Shepard to Liara regarding hacking a door: Remember the good ol' days when you cold just slap omni-gel on everything?!
LOL!!!!
I also loved the fact that Shepard was enjoying the car chase. You could hear it in Hale's voice! She nailed it IMO!!! (Not a slam on maleshep as I haven't played this with one of mine yet).
LOL!!!!
I also loved the fact that Shepard was enjoying the car chase. You could hear it in Hale's voice! She nailed it IMO!!! (Not a slam on maleshep as I haven't played this with one of mine yet).
#192
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:34
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JSLfromBx wrote...
Darth_Toth wrote...
Alphyn wrote...
Ah, well, I didn't romance Liara in ME1, so I missed out on some things.Darth_Toth wrote...
There is a small mention of them when Liara is on your ship...
You don't have to romance Liara to get her on your ship...
Could anybody please tell me if the dinner with Kelly is going to be a problem with liara?
I want to know as well...though I doubt it, confirm fellow nerds confirm!!!
#193
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:35
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Commodore Q wrote...
amazing DLC, although I was disappointed with the Normandy encounter in the end, compared to ME1 that is. But overall best DLC for the game, worth the price. and Love all the little bits of information everywhere. LOVE seeing the korgan beat down the reporter as well haha
If you go in and watch them again it'll be a Volus that punks her this time lol
She also apparently has an Asari lover >.>
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#194
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:36
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So, regarding the private files of the squadmates, any info on Garrus by any chance?
#196
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:36
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Emperor Mars wrote...
JSLfromBx wrote...
Darth_Toth wrote...
Alphyn wrote...
Ah, well, I didn't romance Liara in ME1, so I missed out on some things.Darth_Toth wrote...
There is a small mention of them when Liara is on your ship...
You don't have to romance Liara to get her on your ship...
Could anybody please tell me if the dinner with Kelly is going to be a problem with liara?
I want to know as well...though I doubt it, confirm fellow nerds confirm!!!
I had the dance thing with kelly, but no problem with Liara
#197
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:37
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Commodore Q wrote...
I had the dance thing with kelly, but no problem with Liara
You are a gentleman and a scholar and I thank you.
#198
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:39
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That maybe Dinkamus, but think of it from another perspective.
Now Liara is a very young woman by Asari Standards, and also the ONLY squadmate from both games combined that cannot be killed in any way AND is forced to be taken with you.
Now if Liara is not going to be in ME3 as a squadmate, then when Bioware makes another game in the ME universe ( which they said they will ) then Liara will definitely be there, unlike every other single squad member.
Now Liara is a very young woman by Asari Standards, and also the ONLY squadmate from both games combined that cannot be killed in any way AND is forced to be taken with you.
Now if Liara is not going to be in ME3 as a squadmate, then when Bioware makes another game in the ME universe ( which they said they will ) then Liara will definitely be there, unlike every other single squad member.
#199
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:42
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Neither of them were mentioned for me.Darth_Toth wrote...
Alphyn wrote...
Nope. No mention.Badpie wrote...
Don't suppose there's any mention at all of Ash or Kaidan right?
KASUMIED AGAIN! DAMN!
There is a small mention of them when Liara is on your ship...
#200
Posté 07 septembre 2010 - 02:42
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That was AMAZING!Yakko77 wrote...
Shepard to Liara regarding hacking a door: Remember the good ol' days when you cold just slap omni-gel on everything?!
LOL!!!!
I also loved the fact that Shepard was enjoying the car chase. You could hear it in Hale's voice! She nailed it IMO!!! (Not a slam on maleshep as I haven't played this with one of mine yet).
