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[Tattercloak]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Yeah, it's pretty vague as there's still a lot left unanswered (like exactly where the mirror leads to or precisely why she's going through it). It's even more confusing when she can talk about having a son with the PC on one hand and then criticize him for not helping her with the ritual. Bug-tastic.

It could assume that you've slept with her at any point pre-ritual (and thus the epilogue insists you had a child) but didn't go through with the DR. If you did the DR it's still a bug but she's not contradicting herself.

Which is why I'm assuming that the flag for the DR was either set incorrectly or read incorrectly when I got to that point.  It's also possible that importing my Awakening save may have thrown things off if, at any point during Awakening (including the import from Origins process), the flag was incorrectly toggled.  Hardly the end of the world but it is disappointing.

[inclemency]

The dialog was so screwed up. Morrigan tells my male PC about the child, then berates him for not doing the ritual in the next breath. Very strange. The whole conversation with Morrigan was bizarre. One line is one point, the next is from some other ending. Disappointed, to say the least.

[tuppence95]

Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Maybe you take her advice and go looking for Flemeth as you obviously have nothing else to do with your time?

What I want to konw is why Morrigan sent her infant son into the mirror dimension by himself while she waited around for you. Is this an example of her kind of parenting? If so, she really sucks at it.

At least someone saw a baby. I did this with my Cousland, and she insisted I REFUSED the DR. What a waste of my time and money. Go go Bioware with the bugs.

This happened to my Cousland too.  According to Morrigan, we never did the DR, so I guess my warden's marriage to King Alistair was a dream, and he really died on top of Fort Drakon?  Either that, or my warden is a ghost.

[Matt125]

inclemency wrote...

The dialog was so screwed up. Morrigan tells my male PC about the child, then berates him for not doing the ritual in the next breath. Very strange. The whole conversation with Morrigan was bizarre. One line is one point, the next is from some other ending. Disappointed, to say the least.

Isn't that because if you had a relationship with Morrigan, she's pregnant anyway? It is just that the child doesn't have the spirit of the Archdemon.

[tuppence95]

Aeowyn wrote...

CalJones wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

Aaand my favourite character returns!
Enchantement!

The voice sounded different. It saddened me.

Me too.

Me three. Couldn't they just have salvaged some "Enchantment? Enchantment!" from Origins?

Not sure which union covers game voice work.  But they probably couldn't use the original voice for a new product without having to pay the VA again.

[inclemency]

Matthias Silverblade wrote...

inclemency wrote...

The dialog was so screwed up. Morrigan tells my male PC about the child, then berates him for not doing the ritual in the next breath. Very strange. The whole conversation with Morrigan was bizarre. One line is one point, the next is from some other ending. Disappointed, to say the least.

Isn't that because if you had a relationship with Morrigan, she's pregnant anyway? It is just that the child doesn't have the spirit of the Archdemon.

I guess I imagined he did the DR, then?


OH, and I forgot about poor little Sandal, what the heck did they do to him?  He not only looks different but that cute voice is gone, as well.  That was my first indication things weren't going to be okay  

EDIT:  oh, Lol, I didn't type fast enough...

Modifié par inclemency, 07 septembre 2010 - 11:42 .

[Revan312]

At least Bioware's full games aren't based on Witch Hunt's time/cost ratio.. Imagine paying 500 dollars for DA:O......

[Nemotenetur]

Short version: liked it.

Somewhat longer version: the party banter was great, enjoyed it a lot. The tidbit about the Arlathan refugees and the dwarves was nice too, if Arlathan was really located in present day Arlathan forest, they made quite the trip! I didn't mind the reuse of old areas in light of this being the last DLC, it was kinda like coming full circle. As for Morrigan.. I'm not sure what people were expecting her to say. It's quite obvious she's involved in big plot related stuff, I don't see how they could've revealed more without spoiling that. She did some foreshadowing and some tying up of loose ends in the relationship department (be that LI orotherwise), I personally wasn't expecting anything more.

Modifié par Nemotenetur, 07 septembre 2010 - 11:47 .

[Whailor]

This DLC felt more like an introduction to Dragon Age 2 then anything else. Flemeth is back, elven secrets may be found and what not. Child from the ritual has been born and may play a big role in DA2. I found some dialogues funny, several jabs at Potter and so on, also some other chars you've met were mentioned here and there. Companions weren't bad, had some fun moments with them but at the same time could not interact or really talk with them at all.



At the same time it seemed to be buggy. Morrigan kept talking how I didn't take the Ritual when I always take it (why would I sacrifice my life for some random plebes in a country I really don't care about), mentioned as if she ran off before the final fight when it isn't so (heck I have even the screenshots of her and Leliana and Alistair on top of Fort Drakon killing the Archdemon with this char of mine, sheesh!), said something about me not being "romantically involved" with her when this char was.. Go figure. And then she and my warden step through the mirror and I'm like "Eh, what the heck, what now?" and, well, nothing. The End.



I don't know, I sort of kept waiting, thinking that maybe something will happen but nope, that really was the end. So from one side it had fun moments, but from other side it either was bugged or something else as it didn't seem to consider so many things and choices my char had made during the gameplay. And yeah, as I said, it felt more like an introduction note to DA2 then anything else.

[Warikz]

It was a bit short and disappointing, but my Warden got the resolution I always wanted him to have. He got to go with the woman he loves. So story wise in the end I was satisfied though if i'd gotten that bug i'd have been miffed. Gameplay wise, a pretty awful DLC, but then that was what I expected after the last few from the DA team (probably all their focus is on DA2).

I don't know, i've always felt that the two Bioware teams for DA and ME2 are on polar opposites when it comes to DLC. I always come out feeling more satisfied and less like i've wasted my money with the ME2 stuff. Maybe because the environments etc in the ME2 DLCs generally aren't reused? maybe its the length? I don't know.

Modifié par Warikz, 07 septembre 2010 - 11:53 .

[Cousland001]

tuppence95 wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

CalJones wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

Aaand my favourite character returns!
Enchantement!

The voice sounded different. It saddened me.

Me too.

Me three. Couldn't they just have salvaged some "Enchantment? Enchantment!" from Origins?

Not sure which union covers game voice work.  But they probably couldn't use the original voice for a new product without having to pay the VA again.

Regardless, no one could say 'Enchantment' like the original.
The new sandal sounded slow and didn't sound as excited about enchanting like the original.

[Siduri]

Yes, it was really unsatisfying for my Cousland too. She was engaged to Alistair -- was going to be queen -- and was good friends with Morrigan (I got the whole "you're my only friend" speech). But when Morrigan came to me with the DR offer I refused her flat: I thought the whole thing was vile, and would rather sacrifice my character than convince my noble-hearted Alistair to offer up a child to witches for Maker-knows-what unholy purposes. I was then completely devastated in the end when Alistair didn't give me the opportunity to take the Ultimate Sacrifice ending. The ending I got was heartbreaking ("You say that like I'm giving you a choice..." *SOB*), and in the post-Archdemon conversations (and throughout all of Awakenings!) I kind of wanted to kill my whole party for refusing to acknowledge the magnitude of my Tragic Loss. (Seriously, Wynne is the only one who will mention Alistair, and all she says is "Poor boy"? HE WAS MY FIANCE!!)



So my character has been living every day racked with guilt and uncertainty as to whether she made the right choice. What I wanted from Morrigan was a resolution: why was my supposed "good friend" Morrigan so keen to get in my fiance's pants? What exactly did she plan to do with his bastard child, if she had it? I imagine female Wardens who were romancing Alistair and accepted the DR are equally keen to get answers to those questions, but it sounds like there's no better end to their stories than to mine.



All I got was the back of Morrigan's hand. Couldn't there at least have been a dialogue option, after she says "You're still alive, good for you," for us widowed Wardens to answer "I lost everything in that battle" or something along those lines? If this is the last chapter in our sagas, it's a pretty weak one.

[Andre Ramses]

Well, overall i liked it. I still prefer the DLC's that connects to the main story (Return to Ostagar, Stone Prisioner, Warden's Keep), and obviously Awekening, since i really liked it and consider it a propor expansion (even tough i felt the ending with the Architect a bit rushed). Really hated DarkSpawn Chronicles (despite the good ideia) and Leliana's Song (felt the story horrible and shallow).

At least for me Witch Hunt had very good aspects. I liked the companions, the funny aspect of the dialogues, the places they choose to use again, and the references to past facts and objects (look the coincidence, today i started for the first time a mage, and found it really cool to see Bioware using the Tevinter Statue in this DLC!).

Unfortunately Morrigan didnt answer very well the questions i had, but thats because i was expecting a full and troughly explanation for all the events. Overall it was good, and i liked the idea of having "another world" in this universe, and that "worse things existing". I was expecting for DA2 a plot more focused on politics, but i thing i can be wrong. This fantasy of DA is one of the most inteteresting things in the universe for me (like the fade).

About the "bug" in this DLC, it also happened to me. She said we had a son, but that i rejected her. My choice when i first finished DAO was to perform the ritual with her, so it was strange to read that things she said. What is curious is that i've never chosen the option to sacrifice myself, but when i imported my character for Awekening, that achievement (Ultimate Sacrifice) unlocked just at the beginning, i tought it was a bug, but didnt care... now i thing that maybe that thing "corrupted" my character story... the son that i had with Morrigan was because of the sex we had, but the child isnt a god or something like that, and so it would make sense what she said in this DLC. I will try now to import directly my character from DAO, and see if the bug iN WH continues. Did it happen to someone else (unlocking the ultimate sacrifice when importing character for awekening)?

[TanithAeyrs]

Enjoyed Witch Hunt. The story felt very personal for my Dalish rogue, my only complaints were that it didn't recognize that my character had talked Alistair into the DR and that my level 35 character waltzed through it.



I suspect that both of my complaints could be addressed by taking a post Origins, pre-Awakening or GOA character into it. Still wish we could have Zevran DLC, but I guess that question has been answered.

[KethWolfheart]

Just finished and I was lucky to have no bugs. I fully enjoyed it. I was very happy with the ending, loved the new information about Flemeth, and felt things were as resolved as best as possible all things considered. It left doors open for the future but also gave some good wrap-up.

It was a little short and the combat a bit basic, but overall well worth the $7 (the price of a good mixed drink).

Oh I played it with my level 33 Rogue from my final Awakening game.  I did the DR but was not Morrigans lover, just her close friend.  Not sure if that made a difference.  I heard the bug had something to do with Awakening.

Modifié par KethWolfheart, 08 septembre 2010 - 12:56 .

[Dendory]

Morrigan also claimed I didn't do the ritual here when I did. Really lame to be honest. Why do they release these things so bugged, on such a crucial decision.

[Yalision]

I don't understand. Did everybody get a different ending than I? Or are we majority satisfied by having no idea what it was the gift she left for you was all about at all? Those kind of cliff-hangers, knowing we won't have any more DLC, is more than a tad irritating to me personally.



I figure I know where she is going, but not why and that's fine. I'm fine with whatever she had to say about the kid. I'm even fine with the stand-in party members with no real motivation or conclusion (especially Finn and the ominous statue message). But the gift at the end just gets under my skin. Why would they put something so enigmatic and "important" to the Warden in the DLC and have no answers about it? Or at least some inclination to think it will be wrapped up in DA2? Man that burns me up.

[Matdeception]

I got the bug when I imported my warden from an Unfinished Awakening game. I then redid the DLC with my warden imported directly from the Main games Epilogue. I got the DR conversations then, so I'm assuming if you haven't finished whatever module your warden is in when you import him, you'll get this bug.



At least thats the best I can offer on this matter.

[Andre Ramses]

I "received" this gift too, and couldnt see what it was obviously. Didnt like the cliffhanger, but it wasnt much of a problem for me overall.

[TanithAeyrs]

Matdeception wrote...

I got the bug when I imported my warden from an Unfinished Awakening game. I then redid the DLC with my warden imported directly from the Main games Epilogue. I got the DR conversations then, so I'm assuming if you haven't finished whatever module your warden is in when you import him, you'll get this bug.

At least thats the best I can offer on this matter.

No, I got the bugged dialog with a level 35 rogue who I had finished Awakening and GOA with. 

[Dendory]

I really couldn't care less about the 'gift' but was pissed off at Morrigan claiming all the wrong things because I apparently imported an Awakening character and that made her forget what actually happened at the end of Origins. And I'm not really feeling like replaying it all just to not get this bug.

[Dendory]

How can they not have realized that the ending was wrong if you imported an Awakening character? That screams major QA incompetence to me.

[AEmer]

i was pretty amazed when I didn't get to see what was on the other part of the portal....then kindof horrified because I realized this must be it, dlc over. And sure enough, credits roll.



But I've played through the ending several times though, and the flags were perfect.



I played using a male mage who'd done awakening, who wore morrigans ring the entire bloody time. It was nice to have a conversation with the dalish elf about how I was playing with the ring all the time...I figured it was an actual response to me wearing a really bad ring, statwise, for this long.



Anyway, I wanted to rekindle the morrigan romance and I did. This DLC let me do that. In fact, from the sound of it, the DLC was _targeted_ at my build. It's not particularly fair, but unless you have made some very specific choices, you should just let morrigan go....by not buying this dlc.



This, right here, is the reason bioware is switching to single-race, and probably eventually will switch to single-gender stories. In this DLC, by the sound of it, they tried to support a plethora of different choices in origins...and for me, it turned out alright. Not good...I only got about half the lines I wanted to say to morrigan, and the ending came about really abruptly.



But when I consider she has more than 10 times the lines I got, due to possible choices made by players before and during the conversation....I kindof get why it was done this way. It's just sad that my experience was the absolute best you can hope for.



Ah, this just shows that you're really happy with the ending of a story at the end of a movie? Think of that as canon. Everything following is fanfiction or something, because really, it's been written after the fact for the fans.



That's what this is. Fanfiction, and setting my choices up for DA2. If DA2&3 actually have morrigan and my character raising the boy together? this will have been way worth it.

[fantasypisces]

I imported an awakening character and got the bug.

I then imported an Origins only character (so no awakening) and still go the bug.



Freaking obnoxious.

[Sarah1281]

This, right here, is the reason bioware is switching to single-race, and probably eventually will switch to single-gender stories.

I'll doubt they'll ever switch to single-gender. They've been letting you pick that since practically the beginning and having to have a few lines different isn't really that much of a hassle.