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Witch Hunt bug about the DR (SPOILERS)


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Pedrak

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I know there's the official discussion thread but I thought this topic could deserve its own thread, since people who didn't get this bug may obviously want to focus on the DLC and not on our problem...

LOTS of people (myself included) had Morrigan tell them at the end of the Witch Hunt DLC that they had refused the DR, while we didn't.

Personally, I:

1) Romanced Morrigan in DAO;
2) Accepted the DR;
3) Spoke to Morrigan in Denerim after the DR (but gave her the mirror in the post-epilogue)
4) Got both the "ring" ending in DAO and the "Warden goes after Morrigan" ending in Awakening;
5) Imported an Awakening save for the WH DLC.
6)... but according to Morrigan in WH I refused the ritual. So she had a son from me, but no OGB.

Given that accepting or refusing the ritual was arguably the biggest choice in the game (and that choices will apparently matter in DA2 too!), I'm disappointed about this and I really wish this could be solved - no haste, but before DA2, please... either an official patch by the devs or by some of the great modders of this community.

I mean, it would be like destroying the Collectors' base in ME2 and, halfway through ME3, finding out that according to your savegame you chose to keep it, with TIM winking at you and saying "Good thing we kept that base, Shep! This will make all the difference! "

Help, comments, suggestions... and a patch... would really be appreciated. Thought the DLC was good but this bug kind of ruined it for me. And I shiver to think about how it might affect DA2.

Modifié par Pedrak, 07 septembre 2010 - 11:12 .


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You did everything that I did, and I suffered the same fate of WH not recognizing that I did the DR.

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The conversation that the whole DLC was based around was bugged and messed up. Is that irony? Or is that just the regular kind of suck? Either way, feels bad man.

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While I'm not sure, people who fixed the Awakening epilogue bug with the Golden Mirror seem to be the ones suffering from this. This makes me furious because I redid an entire playthrough in order to get that Awakening / Ring epilogue.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 07 septembre 2010 - 10:23 .


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Dave of Canada wrote...

While I'm not sure, people who fixed the Awakening epilogue bug with the Golden Mirror seem to be the ones suffering from this. This makes me furious because I redid an entire playthrough in order to get that Awakening / Ring epilogue.


Golden Mirror? I'm not sure what that bug is, but it's not just those guys with this problem.:pinched:

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Dave of Canada wrote...

While I'm not sure, people who fixed the Awakening epilogue bug with the Golden Mirror seem to be the ones suffering from this. This makes me furious because I redid an entire playthrough in order to get that Awakening / Ring epilogue.

People who used an Origin import have had the bug occur too.

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Mike2640 wrote...
Golden Mirror? I'm not sure what that bug is, but it's not just those guys with this problem.:pinched:


If you do the Dark Ritual and talk with Morrigan and beg her not to go, you get the Ring epilogue where it says she's sorrowful. It unfortunately breaks off the romance though and destroys any sign of the romance when imported into Awakening, instead giving your character the regular default ending. If you want to fix this, you keep the Golden Mirror until the epilogue AFTER the Dark Ritual and give it to her to restart the romance and the epilogue in Awakening counts you still being in a romance with Morrigan.

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Mike2640 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

While I'm not sure, people who fixed the Awakening epilogue bug with the Golden Mirror seem to be the ones suffering from this. This makes me furious because I redid an entire playthrough in order to get that Awakening / Ring epilogue.


Golden Mirror? I'm not sure what that bug is, but it's not just those guys with this problem.:pinched:


Talking to Morrigan after the DR AND giving her the mirror as a gift in a post-epilogue save was apparently a way to avoid a bug and to get the Morrigan endings (the "ring/regret" and the "Warden goes after Morrigan") in both DAO and in Awakening.

I thought it worked, because I did get them... but now, I'm not so sure anymore. Posted Image


(edit: yeah, what Dave said) Posted Image

Modifié par Pedrak, 07 septembre 2010 - 10:30 .


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Well i did not romance her, and got the same thing. I played as a fem Cousland. So the dlc is just fu**ed up...



1) I romanced Alistair and was Morrigan's friend

2) I killed Loghain and put Alistair on the throne with my ass

3) I did the DR so we both survived...



I guess i will just import from Awakening as well...as i just got a "goodbye" from her and her grimore? Or what was that...

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I didn't use the Golden Mirror trick, but I had the Morrigan Restoration mod that is supposed to fix that issue, and sure enough I got the "ring/regret" epilogue in Origins and the "dark-haired sorceress" epilogue in Awakening, so all seemed to be good. Argh, what a horrible bug in what was otherwise an amazing DLC.

It seems we have to choose between the "dark-haired sorceress" epilogue and a proper WH ending?

Modifié par SirOccam, 07 septembre 2010 - 10:32 .


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Dave of Canada wrote...

Mike2640 wrote...
Golden Mirror? I'm not sure what that bug is, but it's not just those guys with this problem.:pinched:


If you do the Dark Ritual and talk with Morrigan and beg her not to go, you get the Ring epilogue where it says she's sorrowful. It unfortunately breaks off the romance though and destroys any sign of the romance when imported into Awakening, instead giving your character the regular default ending. If you want to fix this, you keep the Golden Mirror until the epilogue AFTER the Dark Ritual and give it to her to restart the romance and the epilogue in Awakening counts you still being in a romance with Morrigan.


Ah, okay. I never did the romance with Morrigan, so that would explain why I hadn't heard of it. But seriously, we've had four or five patches now, why isn't stuff like that fixed?

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Pedrak wrote...

Mike2640 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

While I'm not sure, people who fixed the Awakening epilogue bug with the Golden Mirror seem to be the ones suffering from this. This makes me furious because I redid an entire playthrough in order to get that Awakening / Ring epilogue.



Golden Mirror? I'm not sure what that bug is, but it's not just those guys with this problem.:pinched:


Talking to Morrigan after the DR AND giving her the mirror as a gift in a post-epilogue save was apparently a way to avoid a bug and to get the Morrigan endings (the "ring/regret" and the "Warden goes after Morrigan") in both DAO and in Awakening.

I thought it worked, because I did get them... but now, I'm not so sure anymore. Posted Image

Pretty sad if working around one bug bugs WH.  

Modifié par Aphetto_LC, 07 septembre 2010 - 10:32 .


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Same with me, only I didn't romance her. I took the DR, and she's there saying I denied her. Hopefully they will get this fixed as this is the character I intend to use for my "canon" storyline.

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ankuu wrote...

Well i did not romance her, and got the same thing. I played as a fem Cousland. So the dlc is just fu**ed up...

1) I romanced Alistair and was Morrigan's friend
2) I killed Loghain and put Alistair on the throne with my ass
3) I did the DR so we both survived...

I guess i will just import from Awakening as well...as i just got a "goodbye" from her and her grimore? Or what was that...


It being an Awakenings save doesn't mean the bug will be gone. Mine was from it and I did the DR, still got the bug...

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ankuu wrote...

Well i did not romance her, and got the same thing. I played as a fem Cousland. So the dlc is just fu**ed up...

1) I romanced Alistair and was Morrigan's friend
2) I killed Loghain and put Alistair on the throne with my ass
3) I did the DR so we both survived...


exactly the same I did

now what do we do?

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filetemo wrote...

ankuu wrote...

Well i did not romance her, and got the same thing. I played as a fem Cousland. So the dlc is just fu**ed up...

1) I romanced Alistair and was Morrigan's friend
2) I killed Loghain and put Alistair on the throne with my ass
3) I did the DR so we both survived...


exactly the same I did

now what do we do?

Hope it gets fixed.  Heck, we do not even know exactly what is causing the bug.

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So apparently people got the bug whether they romanced Morrigan or not,whether they imported from DAO or from Awakening, whether they used the mirror trick or the restoration mod.

er...

which leads me to a question... people who didn't get this bug, what did you do?!? Posted Image 

Is not talking to her after the DR at all the key (with both the mirror trick and the restoration mod being able to give the correct epilogues, but unable to avoid this bug)?

Modifié par Pedrak, 07 septembre 2010 - 10:39 .


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Got the same problem with my female warden import from awakening (being friends with Morrigan and _having done the DR_). My guess is, that this is an DAA "bug" (a flag missing perhaps). I will replay the witch hunt with a save from DAO to test this...

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I imported an Origins save. Romanced her, spoke to her after her farewell speech in Denerim, got the ring slide in Origins, and i of course did the DR.



She treated me like it never happened and like the child we had was just a normal child conceived when you sleep with her once but refuse her ritual.



sigh* it seems, in post Origins content, Morrigan is always bugged. Hopefully some dv respond with, i have my doubts they patch that, but at least offer a workaround.



I am baffled though a major bug like this passed QA unnoticed. Bugs can happen, but someone must have spotted something big as this.Otherwise, just skip QA completely and spent the money elsewhere

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Mike2640 wrote...

ankuu wrote...

Well i did not romance her, and got the same thing. I played as a fem Cousland. So the dlc is just fu**ed up...

1) I romanced Alistair and was Morrigan's friend
2) I killed Loghain and put Alistair on the throne with my ass
3) I did the DR so we both survived...

I guess i will just import from Awakening as well...as i just got a "goodbye" from her and her grimore? Or what was that...


It being an Awakenings save doesn't mean the bug will be gone. Mine was from it and I did the DR, still got the bug...


Same here.
Imported my character from Awakening and it's still buged. Such a disappointment after whole day waitingPosted Image

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I've been thinking of redoing the whole thing with everything I know now to get my ideal canon for DA2, but it'd be nice to know how to avoid the bug in order to do that. I played a male dalish rogue, romanced Zevran, stuck Alistair on the throne, did the DR myself....*le'sigh* Maybe I just pissed her off enough to where she pretended I didn't love up on her in Redcliffe. :/

ETA: My save was from the previous DLC, which from there was from Awakenings.  Figure the more information put out, the better.

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MoSa09 wrote...

I imported an Origins save. Romanced her, spoke to her after her farewell speech in Denerim, got the ring slide in Origins, and i of course did the DR.
She treated me like it never happened and like the child we had was just a normal child conceived when you sleep with her once but refuse her ritual.
sigh* it seems, in post Origins content, Morrigan is always bugged. Hopefully some dv respond with, i have my doubts they patch that, but at least offer a workaround.
I am baffled though a major bug like this passed QA unnoticed. Bugs can happen, but someone must have spotted something big as this.Otherwise, just skip QA completely and spent the money elsewhere


Thanks for the Info, saves me a lot of time...
Now I'll replay it with my male mage (including romance)...

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I have a question for all of you that are having this problem. When you say after DR, after your referring to her speech at Denerim or are you referring to talking to her after beating the game (Post-Epilogue) where she will proceed to act like you guys are merely friends? I never talked to her after the DR, unless you are referring to her conversing with you at Denerim, and am hoping I won't get this glitch.

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>>>Spoilers<<<



So let me get this straight...



In order for the WH DLC to acknowledge the DR, I have to save the mirror for a post-completion save of Origins, then continue normally through Awakening and only then will it work in the DLC ? Is this confirmed ?



>>>Spoilers End<<<

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No, the Mirror is used to fix an Awakening bug.