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[night0205]

BadlyBrowned wrote...

Ok, so this time I loaded the "Post-Campaign - Epilogue" save from Origins, and I had no bug, woot woot!

Exactly.

[soundchaser721]

What I want to know is if you import a post corination save into awakening and then into witch hunt will it be bugged? Also, I'm playing on 360 and I don't have Terra's mod so I'm not sure if I can get both the ring epilogue and the dark haired sorceress epilogue given that in order to do so i had to give morrigan the mirror in a post-game epilogue save

[night0205]

soundchaser721 wrote...

What I want to know is if you import a post corination save into awakening and then into witch hunt will it be bugged? Also, I'm playing on 360 and I don't have Terra's mod so I'm not sure if I can get both the ring epilogue and the dark haired sorceress epilogue given that in order to do so i had to give morrigan the mirror in a post-game epilogue save

Yes, if it's not the save from the Epilogue itself... like the save after the defeat of the Archdemon... the post-campaign one, then it is bugged. I think.

[night0205]

To Bioware:
I'm sure you guys already have an idea of the bug, but I have played through several imports of the same character and I know what causes it.
It's from Origins, after the epilogue... when you guys let us pretend we are doing things before the final battle...
The bug is Morrigan doesn't recognize the Dark Ritual.
1. Loaded my character from awakening, in which I loaded from a post-epilogue save... bugged.
2. Loaded same character from epilogue save itself, the post-campaign one... no bug.
3. Then to prove it wasn't awakening, I imported the epilogue save to awakening, then to golems, then to Witch Hunt, and no bug. She reacted correctly.
The reason why so many people are getting this bug is because most people play after the epilogue, even if it's just to switch equipment. So that's what I think.

[Antaress]

stormride wrote...

Terra_Ex wrote...

Short version - if you entered the "post game" in Origins, and imported that save into Awakening/Golems/WH you are bugged. The automatic save and those from the Coronation room are fine however.

Thank you, confirmed that Coronation Save works while a post Camp Save of the same Char didn't.

My char romanced Morrigan and did the DR.
In that case it's easy to tell in Witch Hunt DLC if  your char will be bugged.

If you start the DLC Morrigans voice tells you in the second sentence that it was hard for her to tell you not to follow.
(I'm on german version so i don't know the english version excactly). That doesen't happen if you'll get bugged.

The more obvious dialogue choice is when talking to the dog. You get an option to say that you will get your child.
That only happens when the game knows you did the DR so when you are not bugged.

confirming
but i wonder if i import this char in Awaking and than in witch hunt will it be bugd ? 

[Thomas9321]

Ooooh! Thanks for the insight night! This means I can avoid this on some of my other playthroughs.

[night0205]

Antaress wrote...

stormride wrote...

Terra_Ex wrote...

Short version - if you entered the "post game" in Origins, and imported that save into Awakening/Golems/WH you are bugged. The automatic save and those from the Coronation room are fine however.

Thank you, confirmed that Coronation Save works while a post Camp Save of the same Char didn't.

My char romanced Morrigan and did the DR.
In that case it's easy to tell in Witch Hunt DLC if  your char will be bugged.

If you start the DLC Morrigans voice tells you in the second sentence that it was hard for her to tell you not to follow.
(I'm on german version so i don't know the english version excactly). That doesen't happen if you'll get bugged.

The more obvious dialogue choice is when talking to the dog. You get an option to say that you will get your child.
That only happens when the game knows you did the DR so when you are not bugged.

confirming
but i wonder if i import this char in Awaking and than in witch hunt will it be bugd ? 

As long as it's not a save after the epilogue save, then you should be fine. According to all the other reports, it seems like this theory is true.

[keesio74]

2 BIG THUMBS UP to the people who figured out the cause of the issue and the workaround!

*applause*

Modifié par keesio74, 08 septembre 2010 - 05:37 .

[soundchaser721]

Thanks Night, so any save after the post corination is bugged then. Meaning i can't get the dark haired sorceress epilogue now since i gave the mirror to morrigan in a camp post-game epilogue save, the one where it takes place before the arch demon fight but after the credits. Ugh this just sucks now i gotta figure out what to do with my saves

[fantasypisces]

soundchaser721 wrote...

Thanks Night, so any save after the post corination is bugged then. Meaning i can't get the dark haired sorceress epilogue now since i gave the mirror to morrigan in a camp post-game epilogue save, the one where it takes place before the arch demon fight but after the credits. Ugh this just sucks now i gotta figure out what to do with my saves

Pretty much.

I still think Bioware should come out with a resolution (like the potion thing I mentioned) because I'm sure not everybody has their saves, but I'm biased, I now only have my epilogue save, so I can't redo it.

When I was practicing and working trying to find the bug, I accidently deleted my main save, so I have to play all over again, kind of ****ty, but I could deal with it.

[night0205]

soundchaser721 wrote...

Thanks Night, so any save after the post corination is bugged then. Meaning i can't get the dark haired sorceress epilogue now since i gave the mirror to morrigan in a camp post-game epilogue save, the one where it takes place before the arch demon fight but after the credits. Ugh this just sucks now i gotta figure out what to do with my saves

Yes, the whole idea of giving the mirror to Morrigan after the epilogue, is part of the bug. You don't want to do that. So either, one, you talk to morrigan at the final battle and get the ring ending in origins. or two you do not talk to morrigan and get the awakening ending.
However, I have not tested whether NOT talking Morrigan in the final battle causes problems or not. That may be apart of the bug, but it would take a while for me to figure out that... maybe I should test it...
For now, only use epilogue saves, everything after is bugged.

[keesio74]

Yeah, it must be fairly simple to fix the post epilogue saves to work. I bet it is just to flip a few flags in your saved game and that is it. If someone who is a pro with the Toolset could figure it out, that would be rockin'

[fantasypisces]

keesio74 wrote...

Yeah, it must be fairly simple to fix the post epilogue saves to work. I bet it is just to flip a few flags in your saved game and that is it. If someone who is a pro with the Toolset could figure it out, that would be rockin'

The only problem is I don't think they will. Because they won't know what everyone did, and some people could use the potion/checklist/what have you that they might do to fix it and end of getting free achievements (completing Dark Ritual, Morrigan romance) when they might not have done it. And bioware is big on making sure you do the achievements the long hard way.

I could see modders doing it though. Still pretty silly that the whole point of the epilogue save was so that you could go do DLC (which I did for the keep, before Awakenings) after you beat the game, but doing that messes up your saves.

But like I have said many times, fixing it simply for witch hunt is rather poinless since witch hunt has no import save after speaking with Morrigan, so it would be like the DLC never took place. But it would be rather important for fixing awakening characters if the player (like me) no longer has the Origins save.

Modifié par fantasypisces, 08 septembre 2010 - 05:50 .

[tallon1982]

I tried doing what was suggested and yea...that didn't work.

[night0205]

tallon1982 wrote...

I tried doing what was suggested and yea...that didn't work.

What was suggested. You imported your origin character from epilogue save... and it was bugged?
To be clear this is the save right after you finish the game, before you run around/switch armor/buy sell stuff/ give morrigan mirror... it was still bugged for you? What exactly happened?

Modifié par night0205, 08 septembre 2010 - 06:04 .

[icarium_jag]

So, in order to not get the bug in Witch Hunt - must you only use the 'post-campaign' autosave? So a post-coronation save is not ok? And what do people mean by "giving mirror to Morrigan" after the campaign? I was under the impression that she disappears for good after the final battle?

[JackM]

icarium_jag wrote...

So, in order to not get the bug in Witch Hunt - must you only use the 'post-campaign' autosave? So a post-coronation save is not ok?

That's exactly the opposite.

[filetemo]

female warrior cousland



romanced alistair

killed loghain myself

broke up with alistair to make him marry anora

I did not harden alistair

did awakenings

imported awakenings save



she sees me, hugs my dog and crosses her arms at my sight

after I say "hello to you too morrigan" the first line morrigan tells me is "you denied me"

[Kreid]

Yeah, I have the bug too, I installed the "Morrigan restoration patch" mod from DANexus which ensures that Morrigan will still be in love with you post campaign, but I guess it doesn't work in Witch Hunt.

Modifié par Creid-X, 08 septembre 2010 - 07:08 .

[JackM]

filetemo wrote...

did awakenings
imported awakenings save

she sees me, hugs my dog and crosses her arms at my sight
after I say "hello to you too morrigan" the first line morrigan tells me is "you denied me"

If you imported in Awakening the post-epilog autosave from Origins (instead of a post-coronation save), this seems to be normal as described in the above posts.

Modifié par JackM, 08 septembre 2010 - 07:08 .

[Elishia]

This bug has seriously shattered my playthrough Please Bioware, fix it, as I do no longer posess the post coronation save!

[Pedrak]

1) So this means that it is impossible to get both the ring ending in DAO and the Morrigan ending in Awakening WITHOUT also getting the bug in WH?

2) And that, without patch and mods, I'll have to play through all Awakening again after importing the "right" savegame? Meh.

3) Anyways, as has been noted, if they fix it (maybe with an in-game item which, when used, changes the flag back to active) they'll have to do it in DAO (for those who do not own Awakening) and in Awakening (for those who do not want to replay the whole expansion after importing the non-bugged savegame), not in WH (which has no save after the final choice and therefore won't be imported to DA2, I guess.)

Modifié par Pedrak, 08 septembre 2010 - 07:45 .

[night0205]

I'm telling you guys, if you don't want the bug, you have to play a character who isn't saved after the epilogue in origins. No, don't go switch your armor/weapons... don't do extra DLC after, don't give morrigan the mirror so you can be in love once again... if you don't want the bug in Witch Hunt at this point, the latest save you should use is the post-campaign epilogue save. Is that clear? Otherwise, you will have the bug if you did the DR.