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[night0205]

Pedrak wrote...

1) So this means that it is impossible to get both the ring ending in DAO and the Morrigan ending in Awakening WITHOUT also getting the bug in WH?

2) And that, without patch and mods, I'll have to play through all Awakening again after importing the "right" savegame? Meh.

3) Anyways, as has been noted, if they fix it (maybe with an in-game item which, when used, changes the flag back to active) they'll have to do it in DAO (for those who do not own Awakening) and in Awakening (for those who do not want to replay the whole expansion after importing the non-bugged savegame), not in WH (which has no save after the final choice and therefore won't be imported to DA2, I guess.

As for right now. You can not get the ring ending in origins and the awakening ending both. You have to either get one or the other, because if you give her the mirror after the epilogue, you will get a bug in Witch Hunt. If you want the ring ending, talk to morrigan final battle. If you want the awakening ending, don't talk to her final battle.

[Pedrak]

aka.seim wrote...
Also I would like to ask if maybe there is a bug with the epilogue. I mean, It's seems that after Morrigan's scene the character appears (like it does on Origins) in order to make an auto save but the autosave does not, well, happens... Is this also a bug? or it's not suppose to be an epilogue. (In this case there no way to import to nowhere the conversation and ending with Morrigan....)+

Thank you

Yeah, that actually happened to me too... I guess I was just too irked by the major bug to mention it. Is there supposed to be a final auto save from which WH will be imported to DA2, or not?

[Elishia]

night0205 wrote...

I'm telling you guys, if you don't want the bug, you have to play a character who isn't saved after the epilogue in origins. No, don't go switch your armor/weapons... don't do extra DLC after, don't give morrigan the mirror so you can be in love once again... if you don't want the bug in Witch Hunt at this point, the latest save you should use is the post-campaign epilogue save. Is that clear? Otherwise, you will have the bug if you did the DR.

The solution is fine and all, but what about those of us, who do not have that save anymore? Are we to suffer the glitched saga ending? Playing through origins epilogue, and later on through the entire awakening yet again?  Hopefully it will be fixed, and fixed soon

[master_spirit]

For a long time ago i downloaded the RtO and completed it, then awakining came out. And i imported the save to it. So if i import the trone room save, i can get around the bug? but then i would never have been on the RtO. Hmm.. so i must sacrifice one of this things. Morrigan or RTO.
Feels like the joining^^ and one of this things "will die"
What do you think i shall choose?
And now i need to complete the DAA again:( but now some of the bugs is fixed on Awakening yay.

Modifié par master_spirit, 08 septembre 2010 - 07:54 .

[Pedrak]

night0205 wrote...

Pedrak wrote...

1) So this means that it is impossible to get both the ring ending in DAO and the Morrigan ending in Awakening WITHOUT also getting the bug in WH?

2) And that, without patch and mods, I'll have to play through all Awakening again after importing the "right" savegame? Meh.

3) Anyways, as has been noted, if they fix it (maybe with an in-game item which, when used, changes the flag back to active) they'll have to do it in DAO (for those who do not own Awakening) and in Awakening (for those who do not want to replay the whole expansion after importing the non-bugged savegame), not in WH (which has no save after the final choice and therefore won't be imported to DA2, I guess.

As for right now. You can not get the ring ending in origins and the awakening ending both. You have to either get one or the other, because if you give her the mirror after the epilogue, you will get a bug in Witch Hunt. If you want the ring ending, talk to morrigan final battle. If you want the awakening ending, don't talk to her final battle.

Thanks night, but now I wonder... talking to her in Denerim after the DR will get the "ring" ending in DAO, but will also
set the "romance" flag to off, will it not? That was why people used the golden mirror trick, to reactivate it and get the "Warden goes after Morrigan" ending in Awakening (romance status: active).

So, does this mean that if you talk to her in Denerim you will not get the "romance" status for WH? (regardless of the DR flag status, which would be correct or not depending on whether you imported the right savegame). I mean, that would be another big issue. It would really suck to import the right save to Awakening, replay it all, replay WH and then discover that yes, the DR is acknowledged but your romance with Morrigan is not.

Modifié par Pedrak, 08 septembre 2010 - 07:59 .

[Shiratori]

Elishia wrote...

night0205 wrote...

I'm telling you guys, if you don't want the bug, you have to play a character who isn't saved after the epilogue in origins. No, don't go switch your armor/weapons... don't do extra DLC after, don't give morrigan the mirror so you can be in love once again... if you don't want the bug in Witch Hunt at this point, the latest save you should use is the post-campaign epilogue save. Is that clear? Otherwise, you will have the bug if you did the DR.

The solution is fine and all, but what about those of us, who do not have that save anymore? Are we to suffer the glitched saga ending? Playing through origins epilogue, and later on through the entire awakening yet again?  Hopefully it will be fixed, and fixed soon

While not an ideal solution, you can use console codes to basically bypass the whole game (you can even do it in pieces to mark off each quest as "done" with appropriate choices as to not glitch anything else like picking who joins you in the final battle Mage/Templar, etc).  It's what I'm doing here.  About the only thing I'm not console-coding through are the discussions with Morrigan just to set the romance flags the old fashioned way.

Plus I don't know if anyone else tried, but I was going to see if having that romance flag set still makes a difference for the end of Witch Hunt.

Modifié par Shiratori, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:00 .

[DVACDK]

K.. just trying to make some sense out of this..

1. Origins, In love, did the DR.

2. Imported the automatic save game to awakening.

3. Imported savegame from awaking to golems.

4. Import savegame from Golems to Witch hunt = ??

[Elishia]

Shiratori wrote...

While not an ideal solution, you can use console codes to basically bypass the whole game (you can even do it in pieces to mark off each quest as "done" with appropriate choices as to not glitch anything else like picking who joins you in the final battle Mage/Templar, etc).  It's what I'm doing here.  About the only thing I'm not console-coding through are the discussions with Morrigan just to set the romance flags the old fashioned way.

Plus I don't know if anyone else tried, but I was going to see if having that romance flag set still makes a difference for the end of Witch Hunt.

Yes, but on the other hand you are loosing all the continuity, equipment, gold, experience, log entries and in general it feels just like a huge cheat
Hopefully someone will find the real solution.
On the other hand, if we are getting save continuity errors between the game and it's dlc, the save import feature for DA2 is looking grim.

[ObserverStatus]

I had the same problem. This dlc should be called Glitch Hunt.

[JackM]

DVACDK wrote...

K.. just trying to make some sense out of this..
1. Origins, In love, did the DR.
2. Imported the automatic save game to awakening.
3. Imported savegame from awaking to golems.
4. Import savegame from Golems to Witch hunt = ??

= issues
But replacing 2 with
2. Imported the post-coronation save game to awakening
should result in no (or few) issue.

[DVACDK]

JackM wrote...

DVACDK wrote...

K.. just trying to make some sense out of this..
1. Origins, In love, did the DR.
2. Imported the automatic save game to awakening.
3. Imported savegame from awaking to golems.
4. Import savegame from Golems to Witch hunt = ??

= issues
But replacing 2 with
2. Imported the post-coronation save game to awakening
should result in no (or few) issue.

Post-Coronation save game as in the save game, that the game makes automatic, when you exit the throne room doors, and end up in "the road" location.. right?

[SirOccam]

They should honestly just add a conversation in which you are given a chance to mention in passing that you did a "ritual" with her. Then that could just set a temporary flag that WH could work off of.

[soundchaser721]

I REALLY hope they come up with some solution to this fast... i really dont want to have to go through awakening and GoA again just to have morrigan acknowledge that i did the DR

[JackM]

DVACDK wrote...

Post-Coronation save game as in the save game, that the game makes automatic, when you exit the throne room doors, and end up in "the road" location.. right?

No, Post-coronation is a save performed when you are inside the throne room, before using the exit door. It is called post-coronation because of the automatic name given by the game.

[DVACDK]

JackM wrote...

DVACDK wrote...

Post-Coronation save game as in the save game, that the game makes automatic, when you exit the throne room doors, and end up in "the road" location.. right?

No, Post-coronation is a save performed when you are inside the throne room, before using the exit door. It is called post-coronation because of the automatic name given by the game.

Aha.. thanks for clearing that up for me.

[Pedrak]

SirOccam wrote...

They should honestly just add a conversation in which you are given a chance to mention in passing that you did a "ritual" with her. Then that could just set a temporary flag that WH could work off of.

The problem with this is that fixing WH would get us the right ending in it, but wouldn't save our future imports to DA2. WH has no post-epilogue save (after the final dialogue with Morrigan and your choice), which probably implies that they are not going to import WH (and your decisions in it) to DA2. So, if you  import a "wrong" DAO or Awakening save to DA2, it's still bugged and the DR did not happen.

Modifié par Pedrak, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:29 .

[MisterP58]

Pedrak wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

They should honestly just add a conversation in which you are given a chance to mention in passing that you did a "ritual" with her. Then that could just set a temporary flag that WH could work off of.

The problem with this is that fixing WH would get us the right ending in it, but wouldn't save our future imports to DA2. WH has no post-epilogue save (after the final dialogue with Morrigan and your choice), which probably implies that they are not going to import WH (and your decisions in it) to DA2. So, if you  import a "wrong" DAO or Awakening save to DA2, it's still bugged and the DR did not happen.

But Awakening has no post-epilogue save, either, so how would they import that?

[Pedrak]

MisterP58 wrote...

Pedrak wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

They should honestly just add a conversation in which you are given a chance to mention in passing that you did a "ritual" with her. Then that could just set a temporary flag that WH could work off of.

The problem with this is that fixing WH would get us the right ending in it, but wouldn't save our future imports to DA2. WH has no post-epilogue save (after the final dialogue with Morrigan and your choice), which probably implies that they are not going to import WH (and your decisions in it) to DA2. So, if you  import a "wrong" DAO or Awakening save to DA2, it's still bugged and the DR did not happen.

But Awakening has no post-epilogue save, either, so how would they import that?

But Awakening does have an automatic save after the last big choice you can make (helping or killing the Architect). Don't get me wrong, if they fix just WH and then let you import it to DA2 I will jump for joy ('cause I won't be forced to replay Awakening), but I'm not sure they will, otherwise I guess they would have created an automatic save after the final major choice, to give us the consequences of that too in DA2.

Comments about this by the devs (will WH saves import to DA2?) would be interesting. If the answer is yes, then I guess they'd just have to fix WH, maybe with a conversation in which you can explain what you did (refused or accepted the ritual, performed it yourself, etc.), as a fellow poster suggested.

Modifié par Pedrak, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:42 .

[Big_Chief]

Well, I enjoyed it. I thought the new characters were pretty good, there were several references to Dragon Age 2 stuff, and it brought closure with Morrigan. However, it does feel like a bit of a cheat that they billed this as finding the truth about Morrigan and wrapping up the last loose end, only to introduce several much larger mysteries and questions without really giving you a complete answer to the original questions.

[Elishia]

Big_Chief wrote...

Well, I enjoyed it. I thought the new characters were pretty good, there were several references to Dragon Age 2 stuff, and it brought closure with Morrigan. However, it does feel like a bit of a cheat that they billed this as finding the truth about Morrigan and wrapping up the last loose end, only to introduce several much larger mysteries and questions without really giving you a complete answer to the original questions.

Sorry, but what does it have to do with the gamesave import bug?

[NWNMarc]

Pedrak wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

They should honestly just add a conversation in which you are given a chance to mention in passing that you did a "ritual" with her. Then that could just set a temporary flag that WH could work off of.

The problem with this is that fixing WH would get us the right ending in it, but wouldn't save our future imports to DA2. WH has no post-epilogue save (after the final dialogue with Morrigan and your choice), which probably implies that they are not going to import WH (and your decisions in it) to DA2. So, if you  import a "wrong" DAO or Awakening save to DA2, it's still bugged and the DR did not happen.

It does look more and more like any choices made after the epilogue autosave in DAO won't have any bearing whatsoever on DA2.

I suppose it wouldn't be impossible for Bioware to release a utility that would extract some of your later choices from Awakening, Golems, or Witch Hunt to create a DA2 import file, but the way things are going, I'll think I'll be keeping a backup of that DAO epilogue save.

[NWNMarc]

Pedrak wrote...

But Awakening does have an automatic save after the last big choice you can make (helping or killing the Architect).

This was just a regular autosave, right? In DAO, the epilogue save goes in a special "slot." I think.

[fantasypisces]

NWNMarc wrote...

Pedrak wrote...

But Awakening does have an automatic save after the last big choice you can make (helping or killing the Architect).

This was just a regular autosave, right? In DAO, the epilogue save goes in a special "slot." I think.

Doesn't matter, that autosave right before the mother includes all your choices from the entirety of Awakenings, and it is importable into other platforms.

The only point of that "special slot" save after the coronation was so you could go back and finish stuff you missed. Turns out it's pointless because all you get for a little extra experience and money is a bugged out game that doesn't recognize any of your choices.

[stefan9]

Did some more testing on my saves.



It seems its bugged if you use any other save but the post epilogue save that the game creates itself.



First up I used my own save from golems of amgarrak.



Paramters for this was:

-Human male noble

-Romanced morrigan,convinced her love can work

-Got the ring from her.

-Talk at denerim

-Did the ritual myself

-Hardened alistair

-Agreed to marry anora

-Did return to ostagar post game

-Did awakening with this character, didn't get the morrigan text at the end of the game

-Used same character for witch hunt and morrigan says we never did the dark ritual



Second time round used the same character just with the save after return to ostagar, no awekening or golems of amgarrak and same issue.



Third playthrough and I use the post game epilogue save and there is no bug and morrigan recognises that we did the dark ritual.

[Pedrak]

You are correct, Marc. But at least you had a save after the "big" choice. If they are planning to let us import WH, why didn't they save the game after the one single choice (and a potentially big one, story-wise) which we can made through all the whole DLC?

Modifié par Pedrak, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:59 .