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[night0205]

Alright, first, Bravo Bioware, I very much enjoyed Witch Hunt. It was very well done, and maybe a good ending...
Second, many people are experiencing the bug that Morrigan believes you did not do the Dark Ritual. Take my background as an example that might help you...

Origins to Witch Hunt:
1. My character was in love with Morrigan, and slept with her, in which if I did not do the DR she would be pregnant with our son... but...
2. I did to the Dark Ritual myself, in which Morrigan would have trapped the soul of the old god... but this never was recognized. Maybe, because of what I did later created this bug.
3. I talked to Morrigan at the last battle, and she broke up with me, went from love to friend.
4. Because I thought I needed to, because of a bug for Awakening, after I defeated the archdemon, and was saved by the DR. I used the Mirror with Morrigan after the epilogue... and re-established a love relationship... this may be what many people did, and what may contribute to the bug.
5. Other things of note... I talked to Morrigan about everything relationship related, even to the point of her yelling at me and calling me a ****. Uh, I always keep the "Ring" in my inventory. Origins imported to Awakening.
6. I did not finish Awakening, I imported from Awakening (unfinished) directly into Witch Hunt.
7. Witch Hunt Morrigan assumed the DR never took place, in which she mentioned several times during the conversation. She assumed our Child was from sleeping with each other beforehand, when I heard she was pregnant. I had the ability to attack her, let her leave, and go with her.

I hope that helps. Thank you. I wish their was more Origins, but alas this is the end of it.

Modifié par night0205, 08 septembre 2010 - 04:19 .

[Daryn Mercio]

will someone private message me everything that went on in the dlc? spoilers included and all, with bugs so I can decide if the bugs will break it for me

[godlike13]

Man, i got the bug. Though i still had child with her, and still got a romantic resolution for my end. Just no god child, even though i did in fact do the ritual whith her.

-X-Box

-Mage Male

-Romanced Morrigan

-Got the ring, equipped the ring

-Did the Ritual

-Talked to her at Denerim

-Chose to search for Morrigan at end of the game

--Got the "regret and sorrowful" ending with the ring in my Epilogue in Origins

-Did Awakening

-Then did Golems of Amgarrak

-Imported from Golems of Amgarrak

Modifié par godlike13, 08 septembre 2010 - 05:17 .

[ThePrince593]

Hey everyone! I hope I am not spewing pointless information, but I did not get the bug for WH. The only difference I can find between others may be that I downloaded WH from the "your registered game promotions," downloaded it and installed it using daupdater.

[FiveStarGA]

This was a complete waist of money. This was rushed, the ending was bugged, and left so many questions and answered very little.



This was the big dramatic ending??

[standardpack]

FiveStarGA wrote...

This was a complete waist of money. This was rushed, the ending was bugged, and left so many questions and answered very little.

This was the big dramatic ending??

Seriously, so I end up with little answers despite the "Secrets revealed" heading that bioware slapped on the dlc, instead I get more questions.  whooptie-freakin'-do.  I guess all I can hope for is more answers in DA2 & Da3

[sami jo]

I too have had the bug in which Morrigan does not recognize that the character did the DR and had a second bug with the same character who had romanced Zevran getting dialogue options suggesting he was instead in love with Morrigan. Awakenings and the epilogue slide for Origins both had the correct romance. The character had never romanced anyone but Zevran. PC, EA digital download edition of the game, purchased the DLC in-game. Fully patched with 1.4. Character is a rogue imported into Golems from Awakenings then imported into WH from the end of Golems. Morrigan was at +100 friendly at the end of the game with Alistair on the throne.

Modifié par sami jo, 08 septembre 2010 - 04:49 .

[DarkSeraphym]

I had the exact same problem now that I've finally been able to test it.



-Romanced Morrigan and received the ring

-Performed the DR

-Spoke to Morrigan during her speech at Denerim but do not recall speaking to her at any other point to avoid her becoming friendly.

-Got the "regret and sorrowful" ending with the ring

-Chose to search for Morrigan at end of the game

-Not sure if I got the other epilogue in Awakenings dealing with her.



I imported from Golems and would have thought it was simply a continuity issue, however that is not the case as plenty of people playing importing from Origins are having the same problem.

[JakePT]

Mark Barazzuol - Designer wrote...
Will the results of your actions show up in any later game?  Well I'm sorry, but you'll just have to wait and see.

Sorry, but if there's no save made after the end (as with Awakening) then how the hell would you plan on doing that, even if you wanted to? I love Dragon Age, but this issue and others are really having me questioning the developer's foresight.

On a more helpful note:
Played Origins
-Did Dark Ritual
-Romanced Morrigan
Imported to Awakening
Imported to Witch Hunt
-Morrigan acted as if I refused to ritual, yet I still had dialogue about my son, which she answered, momentarily, as If I had done the ritual.

On another, less helpful note, how the hell did you miss this in testing!?

EDIT: Apparently there was supposed to be a Morrigan-related epilogue at the end of Awakening? Well that's news to me! Christ man, does BioWare even have a QA team?

Modifié par JakePT, 08 septembre 2010 - 05:14 .

[FiveStarGA]

Out of all the dlc, this one has no replay value. I could see myself replaying Leliana's song, but not this.

[1079036]

JakePT wrote...

Mark Barazzuol - Designer wrote...
Will the results of your actions show up in any later game?  Well I'm sorry, but you'll just have to wait and see.

Sorry, but if there's no save made after the end (as with Awakening) then how the hell would you plan on doing that, even if you wanted to? I love Dragon Age, but this issue and others are really having me questioning the developer's foresight.

Exactly, they should know that we have brains too.

[godlike13]

FiveStarGA wrote...

Out of all the dlc, this one has no replay value. I could see myself replaying Leliana's song, but not this.

If they do happen to fix the bug then i'll replay it, but thats the only reason.

[Yammazul]

Mark Barazzuol - Designer wrote...

fantasypisces wrote...

Hey Mark, since you're a designer and all...
Is this going to import to DA2, since there is no auto or post-campaign save at the end?

The intent is generally to keep whatever lore we can of your character from previous games going forward.   You should notice from even this issue on this thread that's often easier said than done.  And like now we make every effort to do so.

So... Does the stuff you do in witchhunt make a difference?  Yes of course it does!  Will the results of your actions show up in any later game?  Well I'm sorry, but you'll just have to wait and see.

[BEGIN NERD RAGE]

Is that your apology to the fan base then? People have been wondering about the outcome of the dark ritual ever since the end of the original game so you could be forgiven for thinking that the focus of the team putting out the DLC would be sqaurely on giving the appropriate ending for the player and Morrigan, giving the correct answers to the player and an appropriate conclusion to the Wardens story, this was the entire selling point for this piece of DLC and Bioware failed to deliver it, plain and simple.

It's even more shocking when you consider the fact that all by the very last enviroment, (if you can call it that, id call it a sparse cave, that takes 5 seconds to run to the end of) was something used from either original game or the Awakenings expansion (The only fresh thing in the DLC was a boss creature, the rest was voicework, which was taken care of by the voice actors for the most part, not the programmers so just what were you guys busy with to have missed this huge flaw with the ending?).

This is the same thing that happened when the expansion came out. If you imported your character you got thrust into a darkspawn ambush completely naked, that was fun on Nightmare for sure..... I mean its pretty shocking for a company that prides itself on its epic story telling to have balls'd up both a beginning (Awakenings) and ending now too (Witch Hunt). As a paying customer I ask you to really work on getting the save game transfers nailed, this isn't the first time that early buyers have been stung by rushed out the door products from Bioware. Saying that its hard to do or "easier said than done" as an excuse just isn't going to cut it (especially in absence of an apology to the fans for letting them down).

Your getting paid to do it so please do it right, take your time, check and double check your work before selling it to people or go and do something which you do find easier (maybe scrap Dragon Age 2 and work on a sequel to the Java script epic, Dragon Age: Journeys. ok that was a joke, and a mean one, but damn it im mad right now! ) If I brought a new car and the gears in the car were faulty or the car drove backwards when I wanted it to go forward or something equally annoying, I wouldnt accept the answer that building a vehicle is hard thing to do, its just not going to fly with paying customers. From the consumers point of view, its simply not our problem how difficult it is, we pay in good faith expecting an as advertised working product. Ofcouse you have the odd faulty product or bug that effects a minority of people, thats life but this clearly seems to be a widescale issue that at best deserves fixing ASAP and at the very least an apology to the dissapointed buyers/fans. I have brought all the DLC (I even caved and brought the rip off feast day DLC the other week, thats how much I like this game ><) thus far and think its a great game but stuff like this does make me wonder if we can expect the same problems when porting our saves over to Dragon Age 2....

[END NERD RAGE]

P.S One thing I will ask, that im sure others would want too is that when/if this bug gets fixed then please make it work with current Witch Hunt saves rather than new ones, as I am saved before my confrontation with Morrigan and would like to be able to load that up and get my answers rather than have to play the DLC right from the start again to get my fixed ending, thanks for reading this. Sorry it it seems overly harsh but I was really let down on this one I went back to the game and talked to Morrigan again and tried out the killing her ending just for fun and pictured a Bioware dev in her place while my warden sunk his dagger into her and watched her die ^^ and that made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside :-D I can say that right? Since if your in here im guessing your ending was already spoiled due to the bug. ><

P.P.S I should say now im all ranted out that the DLC itself was great fun and I loved it from start to....well just before the end! Seriously though im not trying to put anyone off buying it since its good fun in all but I was just soured so much by the ending bug that it overshadowed my whole experience but on reflection it is (bar the ending bug) likely one of my favorite DLC to date.

Modifié par Yammazul, 08 septembre 2010 - 06:01 .

[FiveStarGA]

I agree with the above statement.

[emynii]

I loved this DLC. I was completely thrilled with the personalities of your companions and their banter back and forth. The way they interacted with not only each other, but the dog and myself and their environment made me remember the original Origins. It made me wish that I had them with me for more adventures. Finn was awesome, and I was so happy that you finally had a female elf companion that I didn't want to kick in the head.



I was enjoying it up until the end. Even though Morrigan didn't acknowledge that the Dark Ritual took place, I still didn't get any answers to what she was up to or what her plans were. I don't even know what she left me as a gift - my game cut to the end "credits" (though no text showed up) very abruptly and I just got the notice that I got the achievements and then was sent back to the main menu.



I wish you would allow saves after the completion of events, especially if we wanted to go back and explore or if we missed something. Also so we may use those saves to import to other DLC or DA2.



So can someone explain to me what Morrigan was up to?

[Borrachofunk69]

+1

[DarkSeraphym]

I found something of interest on another thread in this forum. A user thinks they may have isolated the problem because of it.

Essentially, the problem has absolutely nothing to do with talking to Morrigan after the Battle of Denerim. The user believes that the problem has to do with uploading a save right after the Epilogue, or from the auto-save immediately after finishing the game, and then proceeding to save that game again for any reason at all. It could be just to fix some things in your inventory before going into Awakening all the way up to just to talking to someone for whatever reason. If you save the game after beating the game and choose not to upload your Epilogue save into Awakening or any other DLC, it will automatically bug that playthrough and make it incompatible with Witch Hunt.

He has tested the problem with characters who do save the game after loading the Epilogue Auto-Save and tested the problem with characters who immediately upload their auto-save. Any saves that were imported from a post-epilogue save have resulted in that glitch.

This would explain why the Golden Mirror trick for Awakenings will not work. To the best of my knowledge, the only way to pull off the trick is to go back into camp and then give it to her to re-initialize the romance. Assuming that this user is correct, this explains why your saves still wont work; because you'd be forced to save the game immediately after doing this and that would result in you importing a save that had occured after the Epilogue.

Modifié par DarkSeraphym, 08 septembre 2010 - 06:26 .

[1079036]

Did another run. This time in 53 minutes.



Used my female Cousland instead, whom allow Alistair to do the ritual so that we both survive.



And again, Morrigan denied the fact that DR took place.

[Neikion]

Yammazul wrote...

Mark Barazzuol - Designer wrote...

fantasypisces wrote...

Hey Mark, since you're a designer and all...
Is this going to import to DA2, since there is no auto or post-campaign save at the end?

The intent is generally to keep whatever lore we can of your character from previous games going forward.   You should notice from even this issue on this thread that's often easier said than done.  And like now we make every effort to do so.

So... Does the stuff you do in witchhunt make a difference?  Yes of course it does!  Will the results of your actions show up in any later game?  Well I'm sorry, but you'll just have to wait and see.

[BEGIN NERD RAGE]

Is that your apology to the fan base then? People have been wondering about the outcome of the dark ritual ever since the end of the original game so you could be forgiven for thinking that the focus of the team putting out the DLC would be sqaurely on giving the appropriate ending for the player and Morrigan, giving the correct answers to the player and an appropriate conclusion to the Wardens story, this was the entire selling point for this piece of DLC and Bioware failed to deliver it, plain and simple.

It's even more shocking when you consider the fact that all by the very last enviroment, (if you can call it that, id call it a sparse cave, that takes 5 seconds to run to the end of) was something used from either original game or the Awakenings expansion (The only fresh thing in the DLC was a boss creature, the rest was voicework, which was taken care of by the voice actors for the most part, not the programmers so just what were you guys busy with to have missed this huge flaw with the ending?).

This is the same thing that happened when the expansion came out. If you imported your character you got thrust into a darkspawn ambush completely naked, that was fun on Nightmare for sure..... I mean its pretty shocking for a company that prides itself on its epic story telling to have balls'd up both a beginning (Awakenings) and ending now too (Witch Hunt). As a paying customer I ask you to really work on getting the save game transfers nailed, this isn't the first time that early buyers have been stung by rushed out the door products from Bioware. Saying that its hard to do or "easier said than done" as an excuse just isn't going to cut it (especially in absence of an apology to the fans for letting them down).

Your getting paid to do it so please do it right, take your time, check and double check your work before selling it to people or go and do something which you do find easier (maybe scrap Dragon Age 2 and work on a sequel to the Java script epic, Dragon Age: Journeys. ok that was a joke, and a mean one, but damn it im mad right now! ) If I brought a new car and the gears in the car were faulty or the car drove backwards when I wanted it to go forward or something equally annoying, I wouldnt accept the answer that building a vehicle is hard thing to do, its just not going to fly with paying customers. From the consumers point of view, its simply not our problem how difficult it is, we pay in good faith expecting an as advertised working product. Ofcouse you have the odd faulty product or bug that effects a minority of people, thats life but this clearly seems to be a widescale issue that at best deserves fixing ASAP and at the very least an apology to the dissapointed buyers/fans. I have brought all the DLC (I even caved and brought the rip off feast day DLC the other week, thats how much I like this game ><) thus far and think its a great game but stuff like this does make me wonder if we can expect the same problems when porting our saves over to Dragon Age 2....

[END NERD RAGE]

P.S One thing I will ask, that im sure others would want too is that when/if this bug gets fixed then please make it work with current Witch Hunt saves rather than new ones, as I am saved before my confrontation with Morrigan and would like to be able to load that up and get my answers rather than have to play the DLC right from the start again to get my fixed ending, thanks for reading this. Sorry it it seems overly harsh but I was really let down on this one I went back to the game and talked to Morrigan again and tried out the killing her ending just for fun and pictured a Bioware dev in her place while my warden sunk his dagger into her and watched her die ^^ and that made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside :-D I can say that right? Since if your in here im guessing your ending was already spoiled due to the bug. ><

P.P.S I should say now im all ranted out that the DLC itself was great fun and I loved it from start to....well just before the end! Seriously though im not trying to put anyone off buying it since its good fun in all but I was just soured so much by the ending bug that it overshadowed my whole experience but on reflection it is (bar the ending bug) likely one of my favorite DLC to date.

This post has my rage in it.

[jeffmango]

DarkSeraphym wrote...

I found something of interest on another thread in this forum. A user thinks they may have isolated the problem because of it.

Essentially, the problem has absolutely nothing to do with talking to Morrigan after the Battle of Denerim. The user believes that the problem has to do with uploading a save right after the Epilogue, or from the auto-save immediately after finishing the game, and then proceeding to save that game again for any reason at all. It could be just to fix some things in your inventory before going into Awakening all the way up to just to talking to someone for whatever reason. If you save the game after beating the game and choose not to upload your Epilogue save into Awakening or any other DLC, it will automatically bug that playthrough and make it incompatible with Witch Hunt.

He has tested the problem with characters who do save the game after loading the Epilogue Auto-Save and tested the problem with characters who immediately upload their auto-save. Any saves that were imported from a post-epilogue save have resulted in that glitch.

This would explain why the Golden Mirror trick for Awakenings will not work. To the best of my knowledge, the only way to pull off the trick is to go back into camp and then give it to her to re-initialize the romance. Assuming that this user is correct, this explains why your saves still wont work; because you'd be forced to save the game immediately after doing this and that would result in you importing a save that had occured after the Epilogue.

I was just about to post something like this. I was doing some messing around in the toolset and found that, if you ever load your Origins Post-Campaign save, it wipes your Dark Ritual plot flags to 32768 (1000000000000000 in binary, i.e. "MORRIGAN_RITUAL_REFUSED" is made active) for all subsequent saves.

You can fix it with some creative toolsetting by opening the Post-Campaign save and copying over the old DR flag number from there into your new saves (GUID 764C8DAFF2274DFEBC7C7B32FA2BB0CD if anyone wants to try this).

Unfortunately, this looks like a straight-up Origins bug instead of something from the new DLC. Doesn't seem like something that'll be a quick fix (hopefully I'm wrong though).

Modifié par jeffmango, 08 septembre 2010 - 07:02 .

[Greed1914]

I think it shows how much I love Dragon Age and want it to succeed that I'm actually annoyed that there was this bug, even though I didn't experience it. It just seems so unfortunate for this amazing game to stumble hard at the finish line.

[DarkSeraphym]

jeffmango wrote...

DarkSeraphym wrote...

I found something of interest on another thread in this forum. A user thinks they may have isolated the problem because of it.

Essentially, the problem has absolutely nothing to do with talking to Morrigan after the Battle of Denerim. The user believes that the problem has to do with uploading a save right after the Epilogue, or from the auto-save immediately after finishing the game, and then proceeding to save that game again for any reason at all. It could be just to fix some things in your inventory before going into Awakening all the way up to just to talking to someone for whatever reason. If you save the game after beating the game and choose not to upload your Epilogue save into Awakening or any other DLC, it will automatically bug that playthrough and make it incompatible with Witch Hunt.

He has tested the problem with characters who do save the game after loading the Epilogue Auto-Save and tested the problem with characters who immediately upload their auto-save. Any saves that were imported from a post-epilogue save have resulted in that glitch.

This would explain why the Golden Mirror trick for Awakenings will not work. To the best of my knowledge, the only way to pull off the trick is to go back into camp and then give it to her to re-initialize the romance. Assuming that this user is correct, this explains why your saves still wont work; because you'd be forced to save the game immediately after doing this and that would result in you importing a save that had occured after the Epilogue.

I was just about to post something like this. I was doing some messing around in the toolset and found that, if you ever load your Origins Post-Campaign save, it wipes your Dark Ritual plot flags to 32768 (1000000000000000 in binary, i.e. "MORRIGAN_RITUAL_REFUSED" is made active) for all subsequent saves.

You can fix it with some creative toolsetting by opening the Post-Campaign save and copying over the old DR flag number from there into your new saves (GUID 764C8DAFF2274DFEBC7C7B32FA2BB0CD if anyone wants to try this).

Unfortunately, this looks like a straight-up Origins bug instead of something from the new DLC. Doesn't seem like something that'll be a quick fix (hopefully I'm wrong though).

And we have our winner.

This isn't going to be an easy fix, or at least I don't think it will be. Regardless, even if they could fix it then it would still require you to go through Awakenings, Golems, and Morrigan all over again.

[Perfect-Kenshin]

standardpack wrote...

FiveStarGA wrote...

This was a complete waist of money. This was rushed, the ending was bugged, and left so many questions and answered very little.

This was the big dramatic ending??

Seriously, so I end up with little answers despite the "Secrets revealed" heading that bioware slapped on the dlc, instead I get more questions.  whooptie-freakin'-do.  I guess all I can hope for is more answers in DA2 & Da3

I think the "secret" revealed was that everyone who rushed to get this ironically "rushed" DLC is extremely gullibe. Myself included unfortunately.

[night0205]

One more thing you should be aware of BIOWARE. When I imported my Origin character, same as above, from my actual EPILOGUE save in Origins... There was no bug. It worked fine, which means one of two things...



1. After the Epilogue is what creates the bug in origins. (I will test this one sometime)



2. Awakening creates the bug.

[night0205]

I seriously think the Post-Epilogue in Origins is what's causing the bug.