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#201
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Pcmag1  wrote...
Unless I am mistaken, it seems that only The Awakening is the problem, I played my char from origins (which made the boss fight really hard since armor of legion isnt the best there is is and Ysurvis kida sucks), but my DR got recognized.


I agree with Pcmag1. No issue for me too:
- Morrigan friendly
- Haven't killed Flemeth
- Put hardened Alistair and Anora on throne
- Convince Alistair to perform DR
- Had Morrigan in team when facing Archdemon
- Import my character from Origins post-coronation save, not from Awakening ending

Modifié par JackM, 08 septembre 2010 - 12:36 .


#202
Korhiann

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Well I would still think not being able to play awakening before the dlc is an issue:D

Modifié par Korhiann, 08 septembre 2010 - 12:55 .


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Mine also doesn't acknowledge we did the dark ritual. I also didn't get the right epilogue in awakening. I do get to go with morrigan through the mirror thought.



Does the fact that my warden married anora make a difference??

#204
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Korhiann wrote...

Well I would still think not being able to play awakening before the dlc is an issue:D

But I played Awakening before WH. Simply, I import my Origins character instead of my Awakening one.

#205
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No, it seems like the bug is savegame dependent as in what savegame your importing from.

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Okey heres what i did:

1. Romanced Morrigan
2. Killed Flemeth
3. Got the ring (always had it equiped)
5. Did the Dark Ritual
6. Talked to her just before the Archdemon fight (to get the ring epilogue) her approval droped from love to freindship
7. loaded the post epilogue save and i gave her the mirror in camp so her approval turned to love again
8. Saved the game
9. Imported this save to awakening so i could get morrigan awakening ending
10. After compleating awakening ive imported this character to Witch Hunt

After confronting morrigan ive got this:

1. Cutscene with the dog at the begining of the meeting (some didnt get this as ive checked on youtube)
2. She looked quite happy to see me :D
3. Got the line where she saw that i had the ring with me
4. She confirmed that i had a son with her
5. She wont let me know what happened to him as she thought that i didnt do the dark ritual
6. Ive got the option to go with her through mirror

And thats about it :/ pleas fix this DR issue! :)

Modifié par Kavva, 08 septembre 2010 - 01:21 .


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It can't just be Awakenings because I got the bug and I never played Awakenings.



I was her BFF and also performed the ritual and she claims that neither of those ever happened

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For people who have the romance bug in the DLC, do you still get conversation options of how you can say you loved Morrigan (like to the dalish elf warrior in the beginning)?

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Korhiann wrote...

No, it seems like the bug is savegame dependent as in what savegame your importing from.


And if you are using the epilogue save or not. I'll confirm this on my PC tonight

#210
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Hm, apparently this glitch has just become a little more interesting. Are the players who uploaded to Awakenings and then into Witch Hunt absolutely certain that they uploaded a Epilogue auto-save into Awakenings? I'm playing on the console and as far as I can tell you don't even get a choice, it will upload from the most recent save on that character.



Assuming that Awakenings also creates a problem, that would make this a two-pronged glitch that initiates either when attempting to upload from a post-Epilogue manual save or attempting to load that save and play through Awakenings first.

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I think Awakening is not the problem. I just go back to load a post campaign save and use DA Epilogue Editor mod. I found that I didnt agree DR in that save (which I did perform DR) therefore, the problem must be from Origin itself.

- PC
- Human Male Noble
- Romance Morrigan and slept with her before DR event
- Romance but break relationship with leliana after that
- Agree with the DR and slept with her by warden himself 
- Alistair and Loghain both alive
- Alistair hardened
- Married Anora and become King consort 
- Choose to look for Morrigan 
- Got Morrigan's ring and her fell sad for Origin ending but No mention about Warden looking for Morrigan at Awakening ending

Modifié par kmpat, 08 septembre 2010 - 04:14 .


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I have two origins savegame, one in the throne room (after defeating the archdemon before the epilogue) and one in the camp (still after deafeating the archdemon, it's the save used to do premium content). When I load the first one into WH I don't get the bug, but with the second one it doesn't acknowledge the DR.

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Korhiann

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Thanks for the info shadow, have to try and see if a savegame at that point in time would work after importing it and playing through Awakening.

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shadowht wrote...

I have two origins savegame, one in the throne room (after defeating the archdemon before the epilogue) and one in the camp (still after deafeating the archdemon, it's the save used to do premium content). When I load the first one into WH I don't get the bug, but with the second one it doesn't acknowledge the DR.


Very interesting... this could be the key of it. Personally, I imported into Awakening - and then into WH, skipping Golems, which I played with another Warden - a post-epilogue, non automatic save in the camp.

To those who have more knowledge about the toolset, scripts, etc. than I have: would it be so difficult, for example, to produce a free DLC which gives the players in WH an in-game object that, if used, turns the "accepted the DR" flag to active ?  Kind of like the mirror trick in DAO, which set the romance status back to active. Only people who got the bug would chose to use it, of course, before their final meeting with Morrigan.

Although I guess there would be the problem of recognizing who Morrigan performed the DR with, and of whether the player romanced her or not.

Modifié par Pedrak, 08 septembre 2010 - 03:37 .


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how long do you think we haveto to wait till the fix bug

oh and plz tell us if you find ways to avoid bugs


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It seems you need to not have a post epilogue save. I hope not, because my best items are in the party storage.

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Well Chris did respond sharply and swiftly after it was made clear there was a bug. Hopefully we wont have to wait long for an official fix, but....

But yes there are apparently ways to avoid the bug.

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Someone suggested I post this here so what follows is just a repost of what I said in the Morrigan Discussion & Research thread regarding the bug and its cause:

Regarding the bug:

It seems to be caused by the "post-game" in Origins. If you cast your mind back to when we were discussing that "PRC" plot file several months back you remember that the game copied all the ritual flags to a separate plot file before wiping the original, presumably to avoid breaking morrigan's dialogue in the post game.

The choices you make regarding the ritual are stored in clipt_morrigan_ritual.plt (GUID 764C8DAF-F227-4DFE-BC7C-7B32FA2BB0CD) in DA:O. This plot file is wiped if the player loads the post-game save (where they appear at the "On the road" area)  following the coronation scene in DA:O. Its contents are copied to the "PRC" plot file we discussed months ago in the post-game script cam900ar_endgame.nss. The problem is, if the player imports a Origins/Awakening save where this process has occured (entered a post-game state), Witch Hunt tries to read the ritual plot flags from the now-cleared plotfile. You can see the game trying to access the plot file in the logs.

Thus the game believes you didn't do the ritual even if you did. The only feasible workaround for this is to import an origins save from the coronation room (the "final save" might work too) or an Awakening save where you never entered the "post game" of DA:O. Bioware should sort this out imo by adjusting their defined flags to look to account for whether the post_game_enabled flag was set in origins.

Short version - if you entered the "post game" in Origins, and imported that save into Awakening/Golems/WH you are bugged. The automatic save and those from the Coronation room are fine however.

Modifié par Terra_Ex, 08 septembre 2010 - 03:56 .


#219
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Ripping someone's post above and making changes to it for my playthrough

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1. Romanced Morrigan
2. Killed Flemeth
3. Got the ring (always had it equiped in DAO)
5. Did the Dark Ritual
6. Talked to her just before the Archdemon fight (to get the ring epilogue) her approval droped from love to freindship
7. Did not use the mirror trick to get back to love.  <---
8. Saved the game
9. Got Extra Dialogue at Camp.  Imported. 
10.  Beat Awakening.  No Searching for Morrigan dialogue.
11. Beat Golems.  Imported to WH.

After confronting morrigan ive got this:

1. Cutscene with the dog at the begining of the meeting
2. Did not get the dialogue about still having the ring--even though I had it, have always had it and was asked about by Ariane earlier.
4. She confirmed that i had a son with her
5. She wont let me know what happened to him as she thought that i didnt do the dark ritual
6. Ive got the option to go with her through mirror

Bioware mentioned adding dialogue.  Anything in particular?

Modifié par Giltspur, 08 septembre 2010 - 03:57 .


#220
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Anyone sucefully went from awakenings to Witch hunt without the bug?

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Terra_Ex wrote...

Someone suggested I post this here so what follows is just a repost of what I said in the Morrigan Discussion & Research thread regarding the bug and its cause:

Regarding the bug:

It seems to be caused by the "post-game" in Origins. If you cast your mind back to when we were discussing that "PRC" plot file several months back you remember that the game copied all the ritual flags to a separate plot file before wiping the original, presumably to avoid breaking morrigan's dialogue in the post game.

The choices you make regarding the ritual are stored in clipt_morrigan_ritual.plt (GUID 764C8DAF-F227-4DFE-BC7C-7B32FA2BB0CD) in DA:O. This plot file is wiped if the player loads the post-game save (where they appear at the "On the road" area)  following the coronation scene in DA:O. Its contents are copied to the "PRC" plot file we discussed months ago in the post-game script cam900ar_endgame.nss. The problem is, if the player imports a Origins/Awakening save where this process has occured (entered a post-game state), Witch Hunt tries to read the ritual plot flags from the now-cleared plotfile. You can see the game trying to access the plot file in the logs.

Thus the game believes you didn't do the ritual even if you did. The only feasible workaround for this is to import an origins save from the coronation room (the "final save" might work too) or an Awakening save where you never entered the "post game" of DA:O. Bioware should sort this out imo by adjusting their defined flags to look to account for whether the post_game_enabled flag was set in origins.

Short version - if you entered the "post game" in Origins, and imported that save into Awakening/Golems/WH you are bugged. The automatic save and those from the Coronation room are fine however.


Ah, that would certainly explain it.  I definitely imported my post-Origins epilogue save (the one at the camp and not the one I manually created at the coronation) into Awakening and imported my Awakening end game save into Witch Hunt.  Ugh...I don't relish the idea of playing through all of Awakening again with the same character and trying to reproduce my previous playthrough in terms of character-building choices as well as hoping that I'm as lucky with random encounters.

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The Necrom wrote...

Anyone sucefully went from awakenings to Witch hunt without the bug?


No, but I will try. If you do try this, I would suggest not importing any post-epilogue, but th epilogue save itself. In fact, I'll do a play through for this, to try and prove, that the post-epilogue is the problem. It's strange that some people are still getting it through awakening though :/...

In fact, I'll stop by Golems as well, just to make sure... ;)

Modifié par night0205, 08 septembre 2010 - 04:12 .


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Ok, so this time I loaded the "Post-Campaign - Epilogue" save from Origins, and I had no bug, woot woot!

#224
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Thanks for making it abit more clear Terra_Ex. Atleast it makes sense now.

Guess the question now is how is going to be first out with a fix, the modders or Bioware:D

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Terra_Ex wrote...

Short version - if you entered the "post game" in Origins, and imported that save into Awakening/Golems/WH you are bugged. The automatic save and those from the Coronation room are fine however.


Thank you, confirmed that Coronation Save works while a post Camp Save of the same Char didn't.

My char romanced Morrigan and did the DR.
In that case it's easy to tell in Witch Hunt DLC if  your char will be bugged.

If you start the DLC Morrigans voice tells you in the second sentence that it was hard for her to tell you not to follow.
(I'm on german version so i don't know the english version excactly). That doesen't happen if you'll get bugged.

The more obvious dialogue choice is when talking to the dog. You get an option to say that you will get your child.
That only happens when the game knows you did the DR so when you are not bugged.