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OriginsIsBest wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Look if the wardens story is done, Just f**king kill him/her off already, so the rest of us can stop hoping and leave DA in the dust.

The warden is my character, My story, it seems pointless to me to play as Bioware's Hawke.


Seconded! ^.^


Heh...

Hawke: I should go.
Warden: Yes you f**king should.
Morrigan: Indeed.
Hawke: I will just be going then...*Turns to leave*
*Godbaby blows Hawke up with super amazing lazer from his eyes.*

 


*laughs maniacally as she dances on Hawke's ashes* Yay!

Rotf. Too funny. :D

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I know this is officially meant to be the last DLC but i honestly dont see why. If like me, your witch hunt dlc didnt even register the fact that you performed the dark ritual with morrigan. Then the ending is simply morrigan walking into the mirror and your warden left right back where he was at the beginning, still in Ferelden, still the same questions, still the same warden - no difference whatsoever. So why the hell would he not have more quests?????

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Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Look if the wardens story is done, Just f**king kill him/her off already, so the rest of us can stop hoping and leave DA in the dust.

The warden is my character, My story, it seems pointless to me to play as Bioware's Hawke.


Seconded! ^.^


Heh...

Hawke: I should go.
Warden: Yes you f**king should.
Morrigan: Indeed.
Hawke: I will just be going then...*Turns to leave*
*Godbaby blows Hawke up with super amazing lazer from his eyes.*

 


*laughs maniacally as she dances on Hawke's ashes* Yay!

Rotf. Too funny. :D

I would rather my warden P*SS on Hawke's ashes.

Screw Hawke, I want the warden. If they don't give us more warden DA is DEAD for me.

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UberDuber wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Look if the wardens story is done, Just f**king kill him/her off already, so the rest of us can stop hoping and leave DA in the dust.

The warden is my character, My story, it seems pointless to me to play as Bioware's Hawke.


Seconded! ^.^


Heh...

Hawke: I should go.
Warden: Yes you f**king should.
Morrigan: Indeed.
Hawke: I will just be going then...*Turns to leave*
*Godbaby blows Hawke up with super amazing lazer from his eyes.*

 


*laughs maniacally as she dances on Hawke's ashes* Yay!

Rotf. Too funny. :D

I would rather my warden P*SS on Hawke's ashes.

Screw Hawke, I want the warden. If they don't give us more warden DA is DEAD for me.


I just choked on my tea LOL'ing.

But I totally agree. Mostly because, well... The Warden was MY character and I got rather attached to him. Having a character that was completely mine to play and whose actions were mine to chose was just so AWESOME. And the not to mention that the Warden's story is freaking kick***. He/she's the Hero of Ferelden, destroyer of Arch Demons! Hawke ruins everything, he's just no competition.
Hawke is BioWare's character, not mine, and that makes all the difference.<_<

Ah well! Here's to DA3!

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Hopefully DA3 will have the warden in it, if not I wish Bioware would tell us, so I can stop hoping.



Work on the important things, like continuation of the warden's story and other characters. That's what made me love DAO to begin with. I'm so disapointed with DA2, I thought the wardens story would of been continued.



New improved graphics can only take you so far.

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UberDuber wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Look if the wardens story is done, Just f**king kill him/her off already, so the rest of us can stop hoping and leave DA in the dust.

The warden is my character, My story, it seems pointless to me to play as Bioware's Hawke.


Seconded! ^.^


Heh...

Hawke: I should go.
Warden: Yes you f**king should.
Morrigan: Indeed.
Hawke: I will just be going then...*Turns to leave*
*Godbaby blows Hawke up with super amazing lazer from his eyes.*

 


*laughs maniacally as she dances on Hawke's ashes* Yay!

Rotf. Too funny. :D

I would rather my warden P*SS on Hawke's ashes.

Screw Hawke, I want the warden. If they don't give us more warden DA is DEAD for me.

Well said.

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http://social.biowar...8/index/4722164



Reset bug fix. Just don't import games past Post-Epilogue.

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OriginsIsBest wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Look if the wardens story is done, Just f**king kill him/her off already, so the rest of us can stop hoping and leave DA in the dust.

The warden is my character, My story, it seems pointless to me to play as Bioware's Hawke.


Seconded! ^.^


Heh...

Hawke: I should go.
Warden: Yes you f**king should.
Morrigan: Indeed.
Hawke: I will just be going then...*Turns to leave*
*Godbaby blows Hawke up with super amazing lazer from his eyes.*

 






I fully agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Templare92 wrote...

UberDuber wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Look if the wardens story is done, Just f**king kill him/her off already, so the rest of us can stop hoping and leave DA in the dust.

The warden is my character, My story, it seems pointless to me to play as Bioware's Hawke.


Seconded! ^.^


Heh...

Hawke: I should go.
Warden: Yes you f**king should.
Morrigan: Indeed.
Hawke: I will just be going then...*Turns to leave*
*Godbaby blows Hawke up with super amazing lazer from his eyes.*

 


*laughs maniacally as she dances on Hawke's ashes* Yay!

Rotf. Too funny. :D

I would rather my warden P*SS on Hawke's ashes.

Screw Hawke, I want the warden. If they don't give us more warden DA is DEAD for me.

Well said.


Also well said. This is part of why I am still on the fence about getting Dragon Age 2. I've really enjoyed the first one but as I played it more the amount of bugs, both minor and major started to get on my nerves and I find it nothing short of unprofessional that Bioware have missed the amount they did, it reminds me too much of Oblivion. Especially when I played through Mass Effect twice and never encountered a thing wrong with it. I know Bioware can do better, they can make mindblowing experiences.

But anyway, my original point was, why should I care for Hawke when my Warden character is one I have looked after, who I made the way I want and have played for hours. Hawke won't be my character, it will be stepping into someone elses and not one I will feel any sort of bond with.

Now if it turns out due to some wierd time travel technobabble (perhaps involving a collision between a DeLorean and a Blue Police Box?) that Hawke is indeed the offspring of Morrigan and the Warden then I would jump off that fence in an instant and get the game, so at least I can play as Warden Junior and kick ass the way his parents did. As long as there are no bugs mind.

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OK, since the Bioware folks must be feeling really discouraged reading all the complaints and since most people who were happy with it aren't going to post anything, I thought I'd share my perspective. *SPOILERS*

- I really enjoyed the companion characters, especially the voice acting (and of course Claudia Black was great as usual as Morrigan), and I loved that Ariane could understand Dog! And Finn was like "The Librarian", Ferelden-style.

- It was clear to me from the beginning that this was meant to be a fairly linear run through to a final confrontation/conversation with Morrigan. Even little clues like all of the companions' equipment being marked only for that companion reinforced that we weren't meant to do much "fiddling"/optimization and that this wasn't going to be a very long adventure.

- Great touches of humor, including multiple references to Anders' past misadventures. The templars probably kept his phylactery in a special "quick access" spot. :-) Also, other little details like the templar looming suspiciously whenever you talked to Sandal added to the sense of realism.

- I had been looking for the boss monster ever since it was mentioned early in the module, so it didn't surprise me at all that Morrigan had apparently done the research to turn it to her purposes and have it attack us, even with a Dalish elf in the party. No, it wasn't a Harvester-tough battle, but I didn't mind - I wanted to get on with seeing Morrigan.

I'm not surprised that people who ran through the whole thing in an hour or less didn't get much enjoyment out of it (and I'm sure if I'd gotten the "no DR" bug I would have been very frustrated). My runthrough was just under 5 hours according to the savegame info, including reading every book and codex entry, stopping to listen to the party banter before it got cut off by rushing into combat, etc., and I thoroughly enjoyed all the great writing and other aspects of it. For less than the cost of a 2-hour movie, this was a great little download!

As for the ending, I went in with +100 friendly, had a romance at one point but chose Leliana instead, did the Dark Ritual myself (deciding that a magical ritual requiring sex didn't really count as "cheating" on her), and got the "your son is fine but he doesn't know yet that he's an old god" and "sorry, you can't come with me, my friend" ending, which made for a perfectly bittersweet, hopeful yet slightly tragic, conclusion-for-now that felt completely "real" for my character. My regret that I hadn't ended my "main" warden's Origins story with the Morrigan romance active was perfectly echoed by his offer to go with her (leaving Leliana behind) and her refusal.

I figured the overall result would be a cliffhanger since Origins is just the first of a trilogy, as I understand it. The only "no, wait, it can't be over right here!" moment was that I didn't get to see whatever surprise she left me along with the Dalish book - I'm not clear when we'll get to find out what it is, if this is supposed to be the end for our warden....

Were there a few imperfections? Sure, but the only ones that bothered me were related to my own roleplaying of my characters motivations. I thought it a little strange that the Hero of Ferelden, former mage of the circle, would stop by the tower without paying his respects to the First Enchanter (even a brief comment from the new templar that maybe the First Enchanter was away for a meeting of the College of Magi or something would have covered this). More importantly to me, I wish I'd had the option in conversation with Morrigan, both here and in the original Dark Ritual, to tell her that I completely supported her plan to reclaim the soul of Urthemiel and that I wanted to help her with that in whatever way possible. Her line in Origins that "Some things are worth preserving" was exactly what my character had been wishing for since reading about the darkspawn corrupting the old gods when they found them slumbering. My first thought as a player when I read the codex entries on the old gods was "oh, no - there are only two more left", followed by "and the god of beauty has already been corrupted", so the possibility Morrigan raised of reclaiming his soul was huge. The writers did a great job allowing the warden to express a wide variety of religious belief, but I was disappointed they didn't provide options for feeling the same way as Morrigan.

Anyway, now to go finish that Origins run-through with a warden who will get Morrigan's ring at the end. :-)







Ok maybe i was a little hard on bioware in my earlier posts , and i see your point........ i was just really expecting more. personally i dont want to play as a new hero...... i liked the story and party of the one we had. For this dlc to feature just recycled areas and little to no new information is kind of like a kick in the pants. Now i know that they will touch on it in future wiht DA2 but we most likly will not be able to play it...... which is what all of us really wanted....... at least give us like a 30 second cut of the hero morrigan and the baby..... i mean come on thats what we were all waiting for...... i just feel a bit cheated

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Look DA2 might turn out to an alright game, but it certainly won't be better than Origins. How can it be with no Morrigan or warden or any old characters.

DA2 feels like an expansion for me, to look at your warden's choices from a different view.
All we can do is hope they include the warden in DA3 and get back on track.

Three cheers for hopeless faith! yay? Posted Image

Modifié par OriginsIsBest, 09 septembre 2010 - 01:18 .


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As well you should. Re-used levels without any kind of closure to what is the last time we'll ever play as the warden. **** yeah I'm pissed, wait till DA2 comes out and we get some kind of blurb about how the warden was killed by Flemeth or something and this new douche has to finish the fight. "I'm commander Hawke and this is my favorite screw-over in Ferelden."

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New combat and graphics is nice, but seriously when you take away my character "the warden"



I'm like wtf is point seriously? I don't care about the hero of Kirkwall new graphics and combat. Character continuation is what's important.

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Revelo wrote...

Templare92 wrote...

UberDuber wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Look if the wardens story is done, Just f**king kill him/her off already, so the rest of us can stop hoping and leave DA in the dust.

The warden is my character, My story, it seems pointless to me to play as Bioware's Hawke.


Seconded! ^.^


Heh...

Hawke: I should go.
Warden: Yes you f**king should.
Morrigan: Indeed.
Hawke: I will just be going then...*Turns to leave*
*Godbaby blows Hawke up with super amazing lazer from his eyes.*

 


*laughs maniacally as she dances on Hawke's ashes* Yay!

Rotf. Too funny. :D

I would rather my warden P*SS on Hawke's ashes.

Screw Hawke, I want the warden. If they don't give us more warden DA is DEAD for me.

Well said.


Also well said. This is part of why I am still on the fence about getting Dragon Age 2. I've really enjoyed the first one but as I played it more the amount of bugs, both minor and major started to get on my nerves and I find it nothing short of unprofessional that Bioware have missed the amount they did, it reminds me too much of Oblivion. Especially when I played through Mass Effect twice and never encountered a thing wrong with it. I know Bioware can do better, they can make mindblowing experiences.

But anyway, my original point was, why should I care for Hawke when my Warden character is one I have looked after, who I made the way I want and have played for hours. Hawke won't be my character, it will be stepping into someone elses and not one I will feel any sort of bond with.

Now if it turns out due to some wierd time travel technobabble (perhaps involving a collision between a DeLorean and a Blue Police Box?) that Hawke is indeed the offspring of Morrigan and the Warden then I would jump off that fence in an instant and get the game, so at least I can play as Warden Junior and kick ass the way his parents did. As long as there are no bugs mind.


Yeah... I don't think that's going to be the case, though. I think Hawke is a completely new player. In Gameinformer, August issue, I think it was, this is what they said in regard to Hawke and DA2. "Dragon Age is not merely the story of a Grey Warden slaying the archdemon and quelling the Blight. Your exploits in Dragon Age: Origins made the world a safer place, but Ferelden isjust one nation on the continent of Thedas (which is complete bull since Hawke's story still takes place in Ferelden). As you crossed swords with the dark spawn, other denizens of the world - from Orlais to Rivain - fought their own battles for survival and renown. Dragon Age is a multifaceted fiction, and a single game, novel or comic can only shine a light in one piece at a time. With Dragon Age II, BioWare is shifting its focus to a new region, a new hero, and a new tale will shape the larger Dragon Age universe. While the Hero of Ferelden was rallying allies against Teryn Loghain, a new legend was stirring in the doomed village of Lothering."

There you have it, I typed iy word for word, minus my little () addition. There were also a few more quotes (well, okay,  a lot more) that led me to believe that Hawke will have virtually nothing to do with the Warden and that DA2 is unlikely to resolve many, if any, of DA:O's cliffhangers. Like "Who is the Champion of Kirkwall? Some citizens of the Free Marches will tell you that he survived the destrustion of Lothering. They say he found something in the deepest parts of the abandoned dwarven kingdoms. Some claim he is a powerful mage, while others swear he is a unstoppable warrior."

"Hawke is a legend in his own time, and like all legends, his history is shrouded in speculation, mystery, and exaggeration. ( [insert eye roll here] )He escaped Lothering as it was razed by the darkspawn, then fled to Kirkwell, a major city in the Free Marches north of Ferelden. But what happened between his escape and his rise to prominence? The answer to that question is the driving narrative force behind Dragon Age II"

Yeah, that's not extremely cliche and a poor attempt to make this premade character sound more appealing.

"As Dragon Age II opens, all plyers will know for certain that they are Hawke, the Champion of Kirkwall, and his story is theirs to define." ...Not. That sentence contradicts itself a bit, in my opinion. They say in the article that Hawke's story takes place in the past, during the Blight, from the sounds of it, and the game is actually a narrative of people and, I think Hawke himself, telling this new character's story. But it's still pretty much predetermined from the get go, despite BioWare's insistence that it actually gives us more choices, rather than less.

"When compared to Origins' selection of race and origin stories, Dragon Age II may appear more limited. However, with the beginning of Hawke's tale predetermined, players aren't making fewer choices; more choices are just being made as the story progresses, rather than a character creation screen before you start playing."

They go on to justify their creation of Hawke as a replacement for the Warden due to voice acting. Saying that with Hawke they can have the main character actually talk and whatnot. I personally don't care if my character doesn't actually have voiced dialogue. The ability to create my own personal character and to make choices for that character, coupled with the knowledge that this character is MINE, completely obliterated my concern for voice acting. Seriously, if it's a choice between having a silent character that is MINE or having a premade BioWare one just so I can hear him take... I will choose MY character every time.

The article says quite a bit that was disheartening, and also indicated that the questions left in Origins would NOT be answered in Dragon Age II, but it's a very long article and I don't feel typing more. The more I reread, the more depressed I get about the whole thing.

Modifié par Lethvienne, 09 septembre 2010 - 01:37 .


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Thomas9321 wrote...

If I see one more "I am not buying DA2 because I can't play as my Warden!" post I'm going to scream. First of all, no one believes you, that's right not a soul. Secondly, some peoples Warden's y'know DIED at the end. That's why they can't bring the Warden back. And thirdly: if you ever for a minute thought the DA franchise was about the Warden you were wrong, and missed the damn point. The Dragon Age franchise is about the DRAGON AGE, and they games show us important events in it (The Fifth Blight, Hawke's rise to power and so on).

Have a genuine gripe? Fine, don't buy it. But don't get all up in arms over a stupid assumption you made out of thin air that has turned out to be wrong.


Of course they can bring the Warden back, that some players freely chose to make the Ultimate Sacrifice doesn't negate that.

Whtehr or not they ever do though is another matter

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OriginsIsBest wrote...

New combat and graphics is nice, but seriously when you take away my character "the warden"

I'm like wtf is point seriously? I don't care about the hero of Kirkwall new graphics and combat. Character continuation is what's important.



Deep_Sea_Diver wrote...



As well you should. Re-used levels
without any kind of closure to what is the last time we'll ever play as
the warden. **** yeah I'm pissed, wait till DA2 comes out and we get
some kind of blurb about how the warden was killed by Flemeth or
something and this new douche has to finish the fight. "I'm commander
Hawke and this is my favorite screw-over in Ferelden."


Both quoted for emphasis. Come on BioWare, listen to your customers! Don't assume you know what we want and don't try to tell us what we want. We're telling you for ourselves. I know it's too late to change Dragon Age II, but PLEASE, don't make the same mistake with the next game.

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I actually thought it was cool that you got to revisit a couple origin areas... the ruins and basement in mage tower. You guys have to know by now that creating new areas for DLC was not in their budget... Everything is recycled... and taking that into consideration, I thought this DLC did a good job fitting these old places into the story.

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night0205 wrote...

I actually thought it was cool that you got to revisit a couple origin areas... the ruins and basement in mage tower. You guys have to know by now that creating new areas for DLC was not in their budget... Everything is recycled... and taking that into consideration, I thought this DLC did a good job fitting these old places into the story.


"not in their budget"

lolwut. Day 1 dragon age DLC generated $1 million in revenue. I don't even want to begin to count how much the following DLC generated. How could not they make new environments with such a budget? Too much money spent in marketing DA2?

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Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

New combat and graphics is nice, but seriously when you take away my character "the warden"

I'm like wtf is point seriously? I don't care about the hero of Kirkwall new graphics and combat. Character continuation is what's important.



Deep_Sea_Diver wrote...



As well you should. Re-used levels
without any kind of closure to what is the last time we'll ever play as
the warden. **** yeah I'm pissed, wait till DA2 comes out and we get
some kind of blurb about how the warden was killed by Flemeth or
something and this new douche has to finish the fight. "I'm commander
Hawke and this is my favorite screw-over in Ferelden."


Both quoted for emphasis. Come on BioWare, listen to your customers! Don't assume you know what we want and don't try to tell us what we want. We're telling you for ourselves. I know it's too late to change Dragon Age II, but PLEASE, don't make the same mistake with the next game.



They know that the people posting on their message boards are only a small <1% of people who bought the game. They don't give a ****, frankly.

Modifié par Deep_Sea_Diver, 09 septembre 2010 - 01:52 .


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Wardens who did the US can play as a default warden. Simple. Your choices should still be imported though, like who you crowned ect.

Now bring back the warden in DA3.

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night0205 wrote...

I actually thought it was cool that you got to revisit a couple origin areas... the ruins and basement in mage tower. You guys have to know by now that creating new areas for DLC was not in their budget... Everything is recycled... and taking that into consideration, I thought this DLC did a good job fitting these old places into the story.

I also think they did a good job on the DLC, but as I said before....this should not of been a DLC it deserved more.

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OriginsIsBest wrote...

Wardens who did the US can play as a default warden. Simple. Your choices should still be imported though, like who you crowned ect.
Now bring back the warden in DA3.

An even more simple decision would be to let the people who chose to do the Ultimate Sacrifice be Hawke. If you didn't, then you get to bring your Warden back. Would it take more time? Absolutely. Would it make more people happy? Absolutely. Will it ever happen? Absolutely not.
I'm just happy with an actual ending to a DLC that was full of promises of unlocking secrets. Maybe I didn't try and open the right "impossible to open" chest.

Modifié par A 2The theist, 09 septembre 2010 - 02:03 .


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A 2The theist wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

Wardens who did the US can play as a default warden. Simple. Your choices should still be imported though, like who you crowned ect.
Now bring back the warden in DA3.

An even more simple decision would be to let the people who chose to do the Ultimate Sacrifice be Hawke. If you didn't, then you get to bring your Warden back. Would it take more time? Absolutely. Would it make more people happy? Absolutely. Will it ever happen? Absolutely not.
I'm just happy with an actual ending to a DLC that was full of promises of unlocking secrets. Maybe I didn't try and open the right "impossible to open" chest.


Therin lies the problem. Witch Hunt was touted as concluding the Warden's tale, the tale of Origins, whatever. It just made more questions. I'm one of the few who did not plan on getting DA2, but if you're telling me that in order to understand a lick of what just happened that I have to get the game, then I guess you can just count me out.

I was promised conclusion and instead got confusion.

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Deep_Sea_Diver wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

New combat and graphics is nice, but seriously when you take away my character "the warden"

I'm like wtf is point seriously? I don't care about the hero of Kirkwall new graphics and combat. Character continuation is what's important.



Deep_Sea_Diver wrote...



As well you should. Re-used levels
without any kind of closure to what is the last time we'll ever play as
the warden. **** yeah I'm pissed, wait till DA2 comes out and we get
some kind of blurb about how the warden was killed by Flemeth or
something and this new douche has to finish the fight. "I'm commander
Hawke and this is my favorite screw-over in Ferelden."


Both quoted for emphasis. Come on BioWare, listen to your customers! Don't assume you know what we want and don't try to tell us what we want. We're telling you for ourselves. I know it's too late to change Dragon Age II, but PLEASE, don't make the same mistake with the next game.



They know that the people posting on their message boards are only a small <1% of people who bought the game. They don't give a ****, frankly.


*sigh* I know the people here are just  a small percentage of the player base... But I don't think we're the only ones who feel this way. Dragon Age: Origins was so popular because of the freedom of choice it gave us, as well as the chance to build characters that were truly OURS. That was its appeal, why we all loved it. I cannot bring myself to believe that a large percentage of the players, whether they post here or not, will be very pleased with the directon DA2 has taken. DA2 is taking all of that away, it's removing some of the larger reasons DA:O was as successful as it was despite the less than phenomenal graphics and the lack of voice acting for the main character. Because that character was truly ours. Hawke is not ours...he's BioWare's. It's just not the same. And his story won't complete the missing pieces of Origins, nor should. That should go to our Wardens. DA:O was so well recieved because BioWare said that the actions we made in Origins would influence the future of the Dragon Age universe, but now they're undermining their own words.

BioWare has stated that they listen to what is said on these forums and take it into consideration. Let's see them prove it. Now is an excellent time for them to show us that they actually DO care what the fans of their games think, is it not? But if they don't... If they choose to ignore their fans and instead continue to heap on the insults, then I'll just wash my hands of them entirely. I'll still play Dragon Age: Origins because I adore the game and my Warden, but I won't play any of the others in the series. I'll make up my own ending for the Warden. I may just be one person, but why should I give my hard earned money to a company that treats its fans so poorly? So, we'll see.

I'm not giving up hope yet. ^_^

Modifié par Lethvienne, 09 septembre 2010 - 02:14 .


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The most people who buy the game are too young for these forums. I wonder what they think, when they see DA2 thinking "Oh yes I get to continue my warden! Morrigan here I come"



Then look at the front of the cover and see Hawke. "Who the f**k is this tramp?" would be their first reaction, I think.