1650 réponses à ce sujet

[Thepeak12]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

The most people who buy the game are too young for these forums. I wonder what they think, when they see DA2 thinking "Oh yes I get to continue my warden! Morrigan here I come"

Then look at the front of the cover and see Hawke. "Who the f**k is this tramp?" would be their first reaction, I think.

LOL yep,  I can already imagine the look on their faces when they see the cover, hahaha.

[Valus]

Deep_Sea_Diver wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

New combat and graphics is nice, but seriously when you take away my character "the warden"

I'm like wtf is point seriously? I don't care about the hero of Kirkwall new graphics and combat. Character continuation is what's important.

Deep_Sea_Diver wrote...



As well you should. Re-used levels
without any kind of closure to what is the last time we'll ever play as
the warden. **** yeah I'm pissed, wait till DA2 comes out and we get
some kind of blurb about how the warden was killed by Flemeth or
something and this new douche has to finish the fight. "I'm commander
Hawke and this is my favorite screw-over in Ferelden."

Both quoted for emphasis. Come on BioWare, listen to your customers! Don't assume you know what we want and don't try to tell us what we want. We're telling you for ourselves. I know it's too late to change Dragon Age II, but PLEASE, don't make the same mistake with the next game.

They know that the people posting on their message boards are only a small <1% of people who bought the game. They don't give a ****, frankly.

Sad but true. However they can only pump out bad product for so long before the name is tarnished. I'm fully convinced EA will ruin this company like they ruined Westwood studios. The merger with Mythic certainly doesn't help matters any.

[UberDuber]

I pity the kids that see DA2 in a game store, get all excited then read the back on the case.

"HAWKE! THE CHAMPION OF KIRKWALL. THINK LIKE A GENERAL, FIGHT LIKE SPARTAN!"

Kid: What about my warden!?

I can see the kid throwing a tantrum in the game store, and his/her mother dragging them back to the car xD

Modifié par UberDuber, 09 septembre 2010 - 02:32 .

[GraveSpartan178]

soooo any word on the patch for the DLC?

[Leannan]

Lethvienne wrote...

Deep_Sea_Diver wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

New combat and graphics is nice, but seriously when you take away my character "the warden"

I'm like wtf is point seriously? I don't care about the hero of Kirkwall new graphics and combat. Character continuation is what's important.

Deep_Sea_Diver wrote...



As well you should. Re-used levels
without any kind of closure to what is the last time we'll ever play as
the warden. **** yeah I'm pissed, wait till DA2 comes out and we get
some kind of blurb about how the warden was killed by Flemeth or
something and this new douche has to finish the fight. "I'm commander
Hawke and this is my favorite screw-over in Ferelden."

Both quoted for emphasis. Come on BioWare, listen to your customers! Don't assume you know what we want and don't try to tell us what we want. We're telling you for ourselves. I know it's too late to change Dragon Age II, but PLEASE, don't make the same mistake with the next game.

They know that the people posting on their message boards are only a small <1% of people who bought the game. They don't give a ****, frankly.

*sigh* I know the people here are just  a small percentage of the player base... But I don't think we're the only ones who feel this way. Dragon Age: Origins was so popular because of the freedom of choice it gave us, as well as the chance to build characters that were truly OURS. That was its appeal, why we all loved it. I cannot bring myself to believe that a large percentage of the players, whether they post here or not, will be very pleased with the directon DA2 has taken. DA2 is taking all of that away, it's removing some of the larger reasons DA:O was as successful as it was despite the less than phenomenal graphics and the lack of voice acting for the main character. Because that character was truly ours. Hawke is not ours...he's BioWare's. It's just not the same. And his story won't complete the missing pieces of Origins, nor should. That should go to our Wardens. DA:O was so well recieved because BioWare said that the actions we made in Origins would influence the future of the Dragon Age universe, but now they're undermining their own words.

BioWare has stated that they listen to what is said on these forums and take it into consideration. Let's see them prove it. Now is an excellent time for them to show us that they actually DO care what the fans of their games think, is it not? But if they don't... If they choose to ignore their fans and instead continue to heap on the insults, then I'll just wash my hands of them entirely. I'll still play Dragon Age: Origins because I adore the game and my Warden, but I won't play any of the others in the series. I'll make up my own ending for the Warden. I may just be one person, but why should I give my hard earned money to a company that treats its fans so poorly? So, we'll see.

I'm not giving up hope yet.

I am actually surprised by the amount of negativity generated about DA:2 in concerns to having 'Hawke' as the protagonist. Admittedly the feature of origins that was most engrossing for me was the ability to create a character that is personal and unique every time the game is started, but I am actually remaining optimistic about the new DA2.

I am not too hot on the idea of voice acting your character, I think at times it tampers with the immersion factor and separates player from character... but even so I think carrying on 'the warden' will eventually get stale, I would rather more DLC for origins (or longer and more well made ones perhaps) than making it the main prot again. 

I think people aren't giving this enough of a chance, I like the idea of moving on to other parts of the dragon age story and expanding beyond the warden character. I think it will give more depth to the universe. 

Well at least that is what I hope, I am going to put some faith into Bioware and let them take me on a different adventure instead of wagging my finger at them for not letting me stay with the first.... though I will say that I am disappointed that the last DLC was so flat and didn't, in my mind, tie up the loose ends of the tale at all. I don't think they should have introduced two new characters, whom we barely get to explore at all, and not bring back any of the old characters to participate in the finale (bar morrigan of course)

I miss Alistair actually, my right hand man wasn't really in any of the DLC 

[darkest87]

i dont get it i replay it over and over and the only thing that comes to mind is another DLC. The one think im going to say is(spoiler) what heck else did she leave us at the end besides the elvan book? im seriously if its a final chapter then why the hell can't we know the full ending. who knows da 2 might let us know actual ending but its about a different person. man you guys really know how to get people going.(spoiler) the best seqence i think is when you supposedly kill her, but why did he let her fall through. well i guess im done complaining lol.

Oh by the why if you replay though the bug it stop after a few times on PC.

Modifié par darkest87, 09 septembre 2010 - 03:19 .

[night0205]

Like Morrigan said, people don't like change, and they will do whatever they can to fight against it. Wink Wink Bioware to Fans... HA HA HA! No wonder you guys didn't like the DLC.

[darkshadow136]

The final DLC for Dragon Age Origins was ok at best, and that is only because you get some closer with your relationship with Morrigan. That being said without giving away any spoilers. The DLC was cheaply made, and good modder could have made it minus the voice acting. The enviorments were just reused enviorments from Origins, nothing new was added.

It is sad to say that the last DLC for Origins had to be lame, but it is.

[darkest87]

well if you want to put it like that then i dont mind change i just want to know the actual ending. and another thing is well i guess it does tie into the truthful ending is WHAT DID SHE LEAVE HIM WITH! thats all i want to know. i dont really care if its spoiles da 2. to be honest with everyone.

[tbsking]

I'm more concerned with where did she go and why did she do anything she did at all. That was why this was disappointing to me; it didn't answer anything.

[darkest87]

yeah i agree it didnt answer anything. hint hint last to comments she said she left us a gift. stop and think what knid of ending is it for a game.

[Lethvienne]

Leannan wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

Deep_Sea_Diver wrote...

Lethvienne wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...

New combat and graphics is nice, but seriously when you take away my character "the warden"

I'm like wtf is point seriously? I don't care about the hero of Kirkwall new graphics and combat. Character continuation is what's important.

Deep_Sea_Diver wrote...



As well you should. Re-used levels
without any kind of closure to what is the last time we'll ever play as
the warden. **** yeah I'm pissed, wait till DA2 comes out and we get
some kind of blurb about how the warden was killed by Flemeth or
something and this new douche has to finish the fight. "I'm commander
Hawke and this is my favorite screw-over in Ferelden."

Both quoted for emphasis. Come on BioWare, listen to your customers! Don't assume you know what we want and don't try to tell us what we want. We're telling you for ourselves. I know it's too late to change Dragon Age II, but PLEASE, don't make the same mistake with the next game.

They know that the people posting on their message boards are only a small <1% of people who bought the game. They don't give a ****, frankly.

*sigh* I know the people here are just  a small percentage of the player base... But I don't think we're the only ones who feel this way. Dragon Age: Origins was so popular because of the freedom of choice it gave us, as well as the chance to build characters that were truly OURS. That was its appeal, why we all loved it. I cannot bring myself to believe that a large percentage of the players, whether they post here or not, will be very pleased with the directon DA2 has taken. DA2 is taking all of that away, it's removing some of the larger reasons DA:O was as successful as it was despite the less than phenomenal graphics and the lack of voice acting for the main character. Because that character was truly ours. Hawke is not ours...he's BioWare's. It's just not the same. And his story won't complete the missing pieces of Origins, nor should. That should go to our Wardens. DA:O was so well recieved because BioWare said that the actions we made in Origins would influence the future of the Dragon Age universe, but now they're undermining their own words.

BioWare has stated that they listen to what is said on these forums and take it into consideration. Let's see them prove it. Now is an excellent time for them to show us that they actually DO care what the fans of their games think, is it not? But if they don't... If they choose to ignore their fans and instead continue to heap on the insults, then I'll just wash my hands of them entirely. I'll still play Dragon Age: Origins because I adore the game and my Warden, but I won't play any of the others in the series. I'll make up my own ending for the Warden. I may just be one person, but why should I give my hard earned money to a company that treats its fans so poorly? So, we'll see.

I'm not giving up hope yet.

I am actually surprised by the amount of negativity generated about DA:2 in concerns to having 'Hawke' as the protagonist. Admittedly the feature of origins that was most engrossing for me was the ability to create a character that is personal and unique every time the game is started, but I am actually remaining optimistic about the new DA2.

I am not too hot on the idea of voice acting your character, I think at times it tampers with the immersion factor and separates player from character... but even so I think carrying on 'the warden' will eventually get stale, I would rather more DLC for origins (or longer and more well made ones perhaps) than making it the main prot again. 

I think people aren't giving this enough of a chance, I like the idea of moving on to other parts of the dragon age story and expanding beyond the warden character. I think it will give more depth to the universe. 

Well at least that is what I hope, I am going to put some faith into Bioware and let them take me on a different adventure instead of wagging my finger at them for not letting me stay with the first.... though I will say that I am disappointed that the last DLC was so flat and didn't, in my mind, tie up the loose ends of the tale at all. I don't think they should have introduced two new characters, whom we barely get to explore at all, and not bring back any of the old characters to participate in the finale (bar morrigan of course)

I miss Alistair actually, my right hand man wasn't really in any of the DLC 

If they made the Warden the focus for like, 3-4 games then yes, perhaps the character would get stale. Maybe, or maybe not. But that isn't the case right now. DA:O is just one game and it left hints at some pretty epic things happening in the future. Things that would involve the Warden, things that would add to and complete the Warden's story. Right now it feels like the Warden's story was only just beginning. I think the Warden should have about two games dedicated to him/her. That seems more than fair to me. It's just too soon to introduce a completely different character with a competely different story. Way too soon.

Then, of course, I can't see how a character that is personally created by the fans and made with so many different moral choices throughout the whole series could get stale, especially if they took the stage out of Ferelden and brought back old characters like Morrigan, Zevran and Leliana along with some new, well developed characters. I think it would be amazing if the Warden was allowed to travel to the lands of the Qunari. That would be a terrific adventure and it would tie up Sten's story and his hints of a Qunari invasion nicely. And that is just one way in which they can further the Warden's story.

I don't mind it when things change, what I DO mind is when they change far too soon and with far too many things left unsaid and undone. The Warden's story still has so much more to it, especially given the end of Witch Hunt.

Modifié par Lethvienne, 09 septembre 2010 - 03:33 .

[darkest87]

Lethvienne



im with ya bro well wrote. too soon for a compainy charactor. while the fans want to continue their adventure. im one of those people. bu at the same time i wouldn't mind takeing a detour to see what else Bioware has to offer.

[UberDuber]

Until the warden returns I'm done with DA.

Guess I have to find another game to play now...hmm...

[darkest87]

lol

[Skwirl182]

I'm willing to give DA2 a fair shot with an open mind, but I also think Hawke looks like one of the village people. Will we be able to change his face, or will I have to listen to the YMCA song while I play the game?

[Lethvienne]

You know, Darkest, I would not mind this so much if BioWare would just be open about what they plan for the Warden rather than leaving us hanging like this. If they plan on making another game that continues on with the Warden's story then I'll be thrilled and DA2 won't bother me quite so much. But they're not saying anything, not even giving the barest hint. It's frustrating as all get out.



I don't like being held in suspense this way. Much as I like surprises, I don't like this sort. If the Warden's story truly ends with Witch Hunt, they should just have done with it and tell us that so those of us who want the Warden back can ditch DA and move on.



But since Witch Hunt was only recently released I can still hope that BioWare will clue us in at least a little bit.

[night0205]

You guys just need to make some good expansions mods that import your warden... that's all.

[Lethvienne]

UberDuber wrote...

Until the warden returns I'm done with DA.
Guess I have to find another game to play now...hmm...

If you find any good ones do let me know!

[tbsking]

night0205 wrote...

You guys just need to make some good expansions mods that import your warden... that's all.

I'd rather have good DLC that isn't a seven dollar ad for DA2.

[darkest87]

umm night0205 ummm look at my photo lol i i've been using nothing but mods since i beat it thats when it very first came out lol im just saying i would like to expand my life longer and differently. mods only go so far bro lol.

[Saraphial]

-SPOILER-



What did she leave me?!



It's the LAST DLC and they don't even say what she left you?! What the heck?! *bangs head against wall*

[night0205]

darkest87 wrote...

umm night0205 ummm look at my photo lol i i've been using nothing but mods since i beat it thats when it very first came out lol im just saying i would like to expand my life longer and differently. mods only go so far bro lol.

All the DLC that has been released, except for a couple effects, have been recycled... which means that the toolset will mod it. Have you seen the Baldur's Gate mod... you can create good expansions, it just takes time.

The toolset gives you the ability to do great things, so far only a couple things have been attempted.

Modifié par night0205, 09 septembre 2010 - 04:30 .

[Goldrock]

Its just a regular pc game its the last dlc no biggy too me just be happy bioware one of few developers that give us a good amount of dlcs been several since it came out what like a year ago? just be HAPPY most game developers make game put it out end of story. least bioware actually cares enough.

[tbsking]

Goldrock wrote...

Its just a regular pc game its the last dlc no biggy too me just be happy bioware one of few developers that give us a good amount of dlcs been several since it came out what like a year ago? just be HAPPY most game developers make game put it out end of story. least bioware actually cares enough.

I think it's perfectly acceptable to hold a developer accountable for quality control and for content.