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[ExtremeOne]

Yannkee wrote...

I prefer the conversation between Shep and Liara about Miri :

Liara : The future of humanity, as evidenced by the perfect Miss Lawson.
Shepard : She's got issues, but she trusts me. And I care about her.
Liara : She was so cold when I first met her. Completely focused on her duty.
Shepard : I don't know that she's lightened up that much.
Liara : She has. Believe me. You have no idea how much you've changed her.
Liara : I hope the two of you find some happiness, Shepard


Don't worry Liara, Miri and my Shepard are very happy together.

I agree with  that My Shepard and her are very happy together  

[ExtremeOne]

thats the thing about the dlc that pissed me off even if you have a default ME 2 Shepard that gets in a romantic relationship with someone in ME 2. Liara has to open her mouth about it and why the hell is Liara saying anything about Me and Miranda. Liara needs to keep her mouth shut about my Shepard business

[LowCarbMonster]

Kabraxal wrote...

stewie1974 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

The ipartner stuff was OOC BS. Really, Miranda isn't going to do that, especially while on the Normandy. I don't even think if she were a desperate virgin she would be doing that while on the mission...

And LawbringerSR2... uhhh... maybe Jacob would use that, but not her. Really, whoever wrote that was either drunk or just not paying attention at all. Pathetic attempt at humour on that one.

It's canon now. So she would do it.

If it is truly canon.. then the writers and continuity checkers lose all respect and respectability... it is so far OOC that it is ludicrous.

Couldn't agree more.  This is absurd and way OOC.   It's like bringing in a screenwriter to write the last 10 pages of a script without reading anything up to that point in the story.  What was the point?  Could BioWare not come to terms with Yvonne for ME3 so they want Miranda fans to start disliking her?

[Naltair]

ExtremeOne wrote...

thats the thing about the dlc that pissed me off even if you have a default ME 2 Shepard that gets in a romantic relationship with someone in ME 2. Liara has to open her mouth about it and why the hell is Liara saying anything about Me and Miranda. Liara needs to keep her mouth shut about my Shepard business

Maybe she is just being a friend and asking, some people have some anger issues.

Anyways the OOC stuff was funny take it for what it was, a moment for BioWare to laugh at themselves.  It's a semi Easter Egg.

[upsettingshorts]

Yannkee wrote...
Leaving a woman because she can't have kids is just stupid, and selfish. Especially if they are in love.
Besides there are many other ways to have kids.

ADOPT GRUNT

Make it happen, Bioware


...anyway, does the Miranda dossier explicitly say she was looking for action while on the Normandy?  I mean, is it time stamped?  You know, overseeing a medical procedure on a dead man for two years probably afforded her plenty of free time.  Wilson was doing the work.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 08 septembre 2010 - 03:11 .

[ExtremeOne]

Naltair wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

thats the thing about the dlc that pissed me off even if you have a default ME 2 Shepard that gets in a romantic relationship with someone in ME 2. Liara has to open her mouth about it and why the hell is Liara saying anything about Me and Miranda. Liara needs to keep her mouth shut about my Shepard business

Maybe she is just being a friend and asking, some people have some anger issues.

Anyways the OOC stuff was funny take it for what it was, a moment for BioWare to laugh at themselves.  It's a semi Easter Egg.

  



maybe but Bioware should have made the dlc reflect if you played with a ME 1 Shepard that was imported into to ME 2 with a Liara romantic relationship. or a ME 2 shepard with no ties to Liara. would have made it better 

[nelly21]

I thought it fit her personality perfectly. As you talk to Miranda throughout the game you come to realize that despite her genetic superiority, she is rather insecure and socially awkward. Like when Shep kisses her and she has no idea how to react.



To be honest, the dossier made me like her even more.

[LPPrince]

Miranda's iPartner dossier stuff was NOT out of character.

First off, as I remember it, it doesn't have a timestamp on it, right? If not, then this can be assumed to be before she was ever on the Normandy.

Second, she was looking to hook up with someone who has an absolutely perfect medical history, rather than a typical internet ****** or some dude spouting poetry. Seems exactly like something Miri would do.

It just seems out of character to some of you, but its really not. Technically, its canon. So that's who she is, like it or not.

I remember when Kelly came up to the loft all scantily clad. At first, I thought THAT was out of character. Then I thought about it, and just realized that she's not entirely an innocent person. She's not Tali.

She's got a secret dark side to her, and that came out at the end of her romance. So it IS part of her character. Same thing with Miri, in that it seems OOC when its not.

Modifié par LPPrince, 08 septembre 2010 - 03:49 .

[hawat333]

The whole point was to get pregnant.

All her efforts was in vain.

Which is kinda sad, but it also shaped her character with this surprising whish. (I, for one, never saw her as the motherly person)

[Bruddajakka]

Yeah her dossier makes perfect sense, and hell her not being able to have kids might be one of the reasons that she, and Jacob separated.

[Massman123]

hawat333 wrote...

The whole point was to get pregnant.
All her efforts was in vain.
Which is kinda sad, but it also shaped her character with this surprising whish. (I, for one, never saw her as the motherly person)

Lol i totally didn't put the pieces of that puzzle together! I just assumed that her being infertile AND a tramp were unrelated.

[Marta Rio]

Massman123 wrote...

hawat333 wrote...
The whole point was to get pregnant.
All her efforts was in vain.
Which is kinda sad, but it also shaped her character with this surprising whish. (I, for one, never saw her as the motherly person)

Lol i totally didn't put the pieces of that puzzle together! I just assumed that her being infertile AND a tramp were unrelated.

Ha, that took me a while too.
So do they not have sperm banks in the 22nd century?  Seems like it'd be way more efficient to get a sample, have a doctor check it out for genetic defects, etc., and then use it, rather than go to the trouble of trolling for seed on Craigslist iPartner.

[Nightwriter]

atheelogos wrote...

I feel ya but the fact that she can't have kids was the deciding factor for me picking Liara. I know that's horrible to say but I have to be honest. Also there was more to it than that but like I said that was the prime factor for me leaving her.

Gotta be honest, that is kind of horrible to say.

I find it very sad, actually. Her dad wanted her to be a baby makin' machine and you're leaving her because she isn't a baby makin' machine.

Wow. Poor Miri...

[Merlin 47]

Nightwriter wrote...

I find it very sad, actually. Her dad wanted her to be a baby makin' machine and you're leaving her because she isn't a baby makin' machine.

Wow. Poor Miri...

Yeah....Miri grew on me over the course of ME 2 (heck, all the new characters did; Garrus and Tali were great to see again).  I feel bad for her that she can't have children.  I don't mean this as a slap in the face in any way, but at least adoption is always a viable option, at least.  But yeah.....Miranda got a raw deal in life if you think about all the crap she had to put up with to get all the "upgrades".

.....And don't forget, her sister is in the same boat too, I'm betting.

[Orion1836]

The SR2 was built before Shepard was reincarnated... she could have easily been involved in the project before the timeline of the game. There's no reason those messages *had* to take place after she was formally aboard.

That's one thing I really liked about the SB dossiers - they really made you feel as if you were learning something secret about your teammates, something that they wouldn't want anyone to know about. Some of it was surprising, but then again, if we were afforded a similar view into the lives of our real-world friends and family, I think we'd find stuff just as shocking.

Legion's remorse over Eden Prime, Tali's new-found love of nerve stimulators, Jack's poetry and yes, even Miranda's attempts to get pregnant added a ton of depth to the characters.

Also, I would have liked to have seen a "both" option for Shepards who romanced Jack and Liara instead of "either/or," especially if Shepard is a Vanguard or Adept. Of any of the possibilities, that's the one I could see working out: Liara was all for the "sharing" in ME1 (if you picked the "why can't I have both" option), and Jack was already in a relationship with a couple. Is it conventional? No, but it's damned cool and sexy as hell. How badass would a biotic three-way up in the captain's cabin be?

[AntiChri5]

Kabraxal wrote...

stewie1974 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

The ipartner stuff was OOC BS. Really, Miranda isn't going to do that, especially while on the Normandy. I don't even think if she were a desperate virgin she would be doing that while on the mission...

And LawbringerSR2... uhhh... maybe Jacob would use that, but not her. Really, whoever wrote that was either drunk or just not paying attention at all. Pathetic attempt at humour on that one.

It's canon now. So she would do it.

If it is truly canon.. then the writers and continuity checkers lose all respect and respectability... it is so far OOC that it is ludicrous.

You dont get to decide who the character is.

The writers do.

So what if they showed us a different side to her? Thats what the Dossiers were for. Taking a peek into a characters private life without there knowledge shows us a different facet of their character. 

She had casual sex with one guy.

Deal with it.

Orion1836 wrote...

Also, I would have liked to have seen a "both" option for Shepards who romanced Jack and Liara instead of "either/or," especially if Shepard is a Vanguard or Adept. Of any of the possibilities, that's the one I could see working out: Liara was all for the "sharing" in ME1 (if you picked the "why can't I have both" option), and Jack was already in a relationship with a couple. Is it conventional? No, but it's damned cool and sexy as hell. How badass would a biotic three-way up in the captain's cabin be? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

My "canon" Shep is a Vanguard who romanced Liara in ME 1 and Jack in ME 2.

So yes, very very many yes yes yes.

http://www.instantsfun.es/legendary

Modifié par AntiChri5, 01 octobre 2010 - 04:29 .

[Nightwriter]

Merlin 47 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

I find it very sad, actually. Her dad wanted her to be a baby makin' machine and you're leaving her because she isn't a baby makin' machine.

Wow. Poor Miri...

Yeah....Miri grew on me over the course of ME 2 (heck, all the new characters did; Garrus and Tali were great to see again).  I feel bad for her that she can't have children.  I don't mean this as a slap in the face in any way, but at least adoption is always a viable option, at least.  But yeah.....Miranda got a raw deal in life if you think about all the crap she had to put up with to get all the "upgrades".

.....And don't forget, her sister is in the same boat too, I'm betting.

Jeez, you know I never considered whether Oriana might be infertile too.

For some reason I'm thinking the anwer's no.

[IrishSpectre257]

I didn't think it was OOC. I don't think she was looking for a fling, I got the idea that she was looking for somebody to have a child with. Then she discovered she can't give birth. I felt bad.

Then I read that conversation with Liara and felt bad that I didn't romance Miranda, and I felt moar bad.

Curse you, Bioware!

Modifié par IrishSpectre257, 01 octobre 2010 - 04:36 .

[Nightwriter]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

stewie1974 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

The ipartner stuff was OOC BS. Really, Miranda isn't going to do that, especially while on the Normandy. I don't even think if she were a desperate virgin she would be doing that while on the mission...

And LawbringerSR2... uhhh... maybe Jacob would use that, but not her. Really, whoever wrote that was either drunk or just not paying attention at all. Pathetic attempt at humour on that one.

It's canon now. So she would do it.

If it is truly canon.. then the writers and continuity checkers lose all respect and respectability... it is so far OOC that it is ludicrous.

You dont get to decide who the character is.

The writers do.

So what if they showed us a different side to her? Thats what the Dossiers were for. Taking a peek into a characters private life without there knowledge shows us a different facet of their character. 

She had casual sex with one guy.

Deal with it.

No, they can do something wrong. With these dossiers, I mean.

For instance, Mordin’s dossier, while providing good background on Maelon’s descent into madness, screws up the loyalty mission a bit because Mordin acts like Maelon’s betrayal comes out of freaking nowhere.

He does not act like a man who has seen his apprentice go wild over some dead female krogan and demand to file protest.

Likewise, Miranda’s dossier kind of jars. She is so damn practical, I can’t imagine her using a username like “LawBringerSR2”.

Law is a part of her name, which is a security risk, SR2 is the ship she serves on, which is a security risk, and anyway why the hell would she name herself LawBringer, she doesn’t bring the law she breaks it.

Does not compute. Does not compute.

[Merlin 47]

Nightwriter wrote...

Jeez, you know I never considered whether Oriana might be infertile too.

For some reason I'm thinking the anwer's no.

Sorry Nightwriter!

To be fair, I'm probably wrong in thinking that she is.  I honestly don't know, but if she was made with the same genetic material as Miranda was, then it's always a possibility.

But still, I do hope I'm wrong and that maybe Shepard can somehow help Miranda with this (I may not have romanced her, but I view her as a good friend and I do what I can to help my friends).

[AntiChri5]

Nightwriter wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

stewie1974 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

The ipartner stuff was OOC BS. Really, Miranda isn't going to do that, especially while on the Normandy. I don't even think if she were a desperate virgin she would be doing that while on the mission...

And LawbringerSR2... uhhh... maybe Jacob would use that, but not her. Really, whoever wrote that was either drunk or just not paying attention at all. Pathetic attempt at humour on that one.

It's canon now. So she would do it.

If it is truly canon.. then the writers and continuity checkers lose all respect and respectability... it is so far OOC that it is ludicrous.

You dont get to decide who the character is.

The writers do.

So what if they showed us a different side to her? Thats what the Dossiers were for. Taking a peek into a characters private life without there knowledge shows us a different facet of their character. 

She had casual sex with one guy.

Deal with it.

No, they can do something wrong. With these dossiers, I mean.

For instance, Mordin’s dossier, while providing good background on Maelon’s descent into madness, screws up the loyalty mission a bit because Mordin acts like Maelon’s betrayal comes out of freaking nowhere.

He does not act like a man who has seen his apprentice go wild over some dead female krogan and demand to file protest.

Likewise, Miranda’s dossier kind of jars. She is so damn practical, I can’t imagine her using a username like “LawBringerSR2”.

Law is a part of her name, which is a security risk, SR2 is the ship she serves on, which is a security risk, and anyway why the hell would she name herself LawBringer, she doesn’t bring the law she breaks it.

Does not compute. Does not compute.

Maybe every name she tried was taken and she got annoyed and typed that.

[Nightwriter]

Merlin 47 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

Jeez, you know I never considered whether Oriana might be infertile too.

For some reason I'm thinking the anwer's no.

Sorry Nightwriter!

To be fair, I'm probably wrong in thinking that she is.  I honestly don't know, but if she was made with the same genetic material as Miranda was, then it's always a possibility.

But still, I do hope I'm wrong and that maybe Shepard can somehow help Miranda with this (I may not have romanced her, but I view her as a good friend and I do what I can to help my friends).

It's weird, because I see Oriana as the normal one my mind has a hard time thinking that the same infertility issue applies. It's like my brain goes, "No, Oriana's healthy, she's normal! She was raised by a loving family! Love has magically protected her ovaries!"

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Miranda's infertility was an intentional, vindictive failsafe her father had installed in case she ever ran away. "Escape my control - no babies for you!"

AntiChri5 wrote...

Maybe every name she tried was taken and she got annoyed and typed that.

THIS MUST SURELY BE THE EXPLANATION.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 01 octobre 2010 - 05:01 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

She obviously didn't have the intellect to use an inanimate object as her screen name

[JRCHOharry]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

She obviously didn't have the intellect to use an inanimate object as her screen name

Or her password:
Username: LawBringerSR2
Password: Goldfish