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[CLime]

Cucobr wrote...

Eurypterid wrote...

Sorry, I guess my link didn't answer your question. I didn't watch your video, as I've not played Witch Hunt yet and want to avoid spoilers as much as possible. Took a quick peek at your image link in your latest post, and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with what I linked. Apologies. Different bug (if that's what you've found).

It was my splurge even ... the place is no place ... is the same place that I was only more enlightened ... chart things and has nothing to do with history.

Sorry = /

I have no idea what this guy is trying to say.

Lilaeth wrote...

Hmmm, what if the clients want more DA:O and couldn't give a toss about DA2??  Someone's confidence is misplaced, methinks!  ../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png

Then those clients are in the same boat as the ones who want a romanceable Darkspawn companion: the minority.  Really, as far as broken promises go this one is pretty forgiveable.

"Honey, your mother and I know you really wanted those new shoes for your birthday, but we got you a unicorn instead.  Sorry."

[Cucobr]

google traslater crap!

my english isn't expert level... but i'll try post without google.



When I took the SS, the place after enter at mirror is the same place.



it is only a graphic bug.



sorry by my english.

[Emyer]

Aldaris951 wrote...

There's no autosave at end game so u can't import ur choices into da2 so it's like this dlc never happend. Like darkspawn dlc where the story was non cannon.

There was no auto-save at the end of Awakening or GoA either, but you can import those saves into WH.



Also I think I read in an interview that all DLC decisions would have some impact in DA2.


/Inb4 Bioware lies!!

[Aradace]

Lilaeth wrote...

Eurypterid wrote...

Cucobr wrote...

Chris?

Not sure if this is answering your question, but in This Thread Chris says they're aware of the bug and are investigating.

Blastback wrote...

Just curious, but whatever happened to the whole Origins will have 2 years of DLC you guys promoted?

In This Thread, Chris says:

Chris Priestly wrote...

When
we made the promise of 2 years of DLC for DA:O we did not expect DA2 to
come together so well or so quickly.  Once it was realized that it
would be ready early next year (now announced as March 8) we chose to
release a brand new game instead of delaying it to keep a (now) outdated
promise.

While we understand some fans would like us to continue
making DLC for DA:O, we are focussing instead on making Dragon Age 2 a
better overall experience than Dragon Age: Origins and we're confidant
that you will enjoy Dragon Age 2.



../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png

Hmmm, what if the clients want more DA:O and couldn't give a toss about DA2??  Someone's confidence is misplaced, methinks! 

Uhhh it's called that's their way of saying "We want to focus more on DA2 because DA:O is outdated so get over it."  They dont care if you like it or not so deal with it.

[Pudstar_Inc]

They promised DLC that would bridge the gap between ME1 and ME2 and it never happened but have made up for it with the loads of ME2 DLC that we got and are still getting. Going by that I'm sure they will do the same thing with DA2 or at least they should.

[metatheurgist]

CLime wrote...
Then those clients are in the same boat as the ones who want a romanceable Darkspawn companion: the minority.  Really, as far as broken promises go this one is pretty forgiveable.

"Honey, your mother and I know you really wanted those new shoes for your birthday, but we got you a unicorn instead.  Sorry."

It's closer to:

"Honey, I know you really wanted your dream job as an artist but your mother and I decided it's more profitable to rent you out to strangers. Sorry."

[Astfgl]

Cucobr wrote...

google traslater crap!
my english isn't expert level... but i'll try post without google.

When I took the SS, the place after enter at mirror is the same place.

it is only a graphic bug.

sorry by my english.

It's not SS, it's GW in English (Grey Warden not Sерый Sтраж) 

As I understood, there HAD to be an autosave after the cutscene. It just didn't work somewhy. Though it looks like they fixed it so we just have to wait for a patch. Seems they promissed to release it today ))

Чтобы избавить от гугловского переводчика: после диалога с Морри и нашего решения что с ней делать, должен был быть автосейв, но он почему-то не работает. Это вроде как уже исправили, так что ждем патча - обещали сегодня его выложить

[Mordechaisiz]

I gotta agree with meta on that.

[Chuvvy]

I'd rather only be spit on once.

Modifié par Slidell505, 13 septembre 2010 - 01:44 .

[Kesaru]

Eurypterid wrote...

Cucobr wrote...

Chris?

Not sure if this is answering your question, but in This Thread Chris says they're aware of the bug and are investigating.

Blastback wrote...

Just curious, but whatever happened to the whole Origins will have 2 years of DLC you guys promoted?

In This Thread, Chris says:

Chris Priestly wrote...

When
we made the promise of 2 years of DLC for DA:O we did not expect DA2 to
come together so well or so quickly.  Once it was realized that it
would be ready early next year (now announced as March 8) we chose to
release a brand new game instead of delaying it to keep a (now) outdated
promise.

While we understand some fans would like us to continue
making DLC for DA:O, we are focussing instead on making Dragon Age 2 a
better overall experience than Dragon Age: Origins and we're confidant
that you will enjoy Dragon Age 2.



../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png

Ah, so you're flat-out abandoning Dragon Age. And not only are you doing that, but you're doing it a whole year earlier than you said you would.
Well, screw Dragon Age 2.
I'm not buying another game just so you can quickly abandon that one as well.
I don't understand the logic in creating an entirely new game based in the same setting instead of continuing to advance upon and improve the one you already have. The toolset in particular needs a huge amount of work and patching still.
The mods people have created to this point are essentially useless, and who's to say Dragon Age 2 mods (if we can even make them) will not also be quickly negated?
And what of all that DLC you nickle-and-dimed us for at every opportunity? All to nothing now, if we want to move on to your greener pastures.
A fair number of the DLCs didn't even have any story, so don't try saying we got what we payed for the first time through it.

I've spent more time modding than playing this game, and that's all gone now if I want to play the shiny new Dragon Age 2.0. The only other option is to continue playing with the unwanted "failure" you've decided to toss in the dumpster.

[Cucobr]

Astfgl wrote...

Cucobr wrote...

google traslater crap!
my english isn't expert level... but i'll try post without google.

When I took the SS, the place after enter at mirror is the same place.

it is only a graphic bug.

sorry by my english.

It's not SS, it's GW in English (Grey Warden not Sерый Sтраж) 

As I understood, there HAD to be an autosave after the cutscene. It just didn't work somewhy. Though it looks like they fixed it so we just have to wait for a patch. Seems they promissed to release it today ))

Чтобы избавить от гугловского переводчика: после диалога с Морри и нашего решения что с ней делать, должен был быть автосейв, но он почему-то не работает. Это вроде как уже исправили, так что ждем патча - обещали сегодня его выложить

when I said SS I meant Screenshot:happy:

[UFOash]

So...will your DA1 continuity be importable into DA2?

And what was that about Witch Hunt? It doesn't save your ending?

Is this to be fixed?

Modifié par UFOash, 13 septembre 2010 - 08:46 .

[Pudstar_Inc]

Yes Bioware said that your decisions in DA1 will effect DA2. As for Witch Hunt, they said they are fixing two of the bugs with it but I dont know if saving the ending bug is one of them.

[ninja0809]

Pudstar_Inc wrote...

Yes Bioware said that your decisions in DA1 will effect DA2. As for Witch Hunt, they said they are fixing two of the bugs with it but I dont know if saving the ending bug is one of them.

they said they are aware of it and it has been achknowledged as a bug...so it would be fixed

[cruelgretchen]

Chris Priestly wrote...



When

we made the promise of 2 years of DLC for DA:O we did not expect DA2 to

come together so well or so quickly. Once it was realized that it

would be ready early next year (now announced as March 8) we chose to

release a brand new game instead of delaying it to keep a (now) outdated

promise.



<<A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on>>

[Zy-El]

So . . . you'd prefer that they held to their original promise to release DA2 in Dec 2011 even though it will be ready on Mar 2011. Why???!!?!?

They're not releasing any more DLC for DA:Origins because they did not plan on making any more of them than has been released. I suspect that over the next 6 months, the DLC teams are working on DA2 DLC's while the main dev team is working on DA2. In this way, Bioware can release DLC's at the rate of 1 every 2 months that we've been witnessing with Origins DLC's.

[Chuvvy]

Zy-El wrote...

So . . . you'd prefer that they held to their original promise to release DA2 in Dec 2011 even though it will be ready on Mar 2011. Why???!!?!?

I'd rather them take another year and make the game better.

[Zy-El]

How is letting it sit on the shelf for a year make it any better? They've only allocated a certain amount of resources to QA and won't allocate any more. As of Mar 2011, they will have a product ready for release and money-making - there's no way they'll hold it back.

Yes, I agree with you that they should spend more time and resources on QA but that's not going to happen so I say - release DA2 already. They'll patch whatever bugs we find. Will it be worse than Origins? I'd have to wager that they've learned their lesson - a buggy game will cost them profits. I'm still somewhat surprised that despite the bugs, DA:Origins was still such a success.

Gamers are going to buy DA2 in droves - mainly because of the positive experiences from Origins and also because of the Bioware name and reputation.

Even those players who complained about all the bugs in Origins still went ahead and bought a lot of the DLC's. Somewhat hipocritical if you ask me. "Origins has so many bugs I'll never buy anymore from Bioware. I really think the DLC's suck'd."

[searanox]

Blastback wrote...

Just curious, but whatever happened to the whole Origins will have 2 years of DLC you guys promoted?

EA realised that Dragon Age was more successful than they anticipated and so had BioWare start work on the sequel as quickly as possible, cater it to a more mainstream audience, and then release it with approximately half the content of the original game.  The DLC was produced on a dime to lure in stragglers, keep interest in the game up and maximise potential profit margins.

Zy-El wrote...

Yes, I agree with you that they should
spend more time and resources on QA but that's not going to happen so I
say - release DA2 already. They'll patch whatever bugs we find. Will
it be worse than Origins? I'd have to wager that they've learned their
lesson - a buggy game will cost them profits. I'm still somewhat
surprised that despite the bugs, DA:Origins was still such a
success.

You mean like how EA took months and months to patch Dragon Age and Awakening after release, only to introduce even more problems, including major bugs that render certain parts of the game literally unusable?

You kind of answered your own question there.  Mass audiences generally don't give a flying **** about bugs so long as they aren't immediately obvious and frustrating.  Dragon Age got high critical acclaim and by popular opinion is excellent, and that's enough to sell it to 95% of people.  The bugs don't matter.  EA does not give a flying **** that the game has major problems and they never will, because they've already made their money on the game and the DLC.  You are meaningless to them once you have bought your copy.

Modifié par searanox, 14 septembre 2010 - 11:46 .

[Dark Lilith]

Final DLC is final in any language and will get you the same result

Promises are more often broken then kept.I myself would rather see DA2 released than another disappointing DLC

Modifié par Dark Lilith, 14 septembre 2010 - 11:56 .

[Zy-El]

searnox: I'm hoping somebody out there other than EA tries to copy the same formula as DA and do a better job of it. If it was really so easy to churn out a flawless RPG with multiple cross-referenced endings and possible outcomes, someone would have done it better by now - don't you think?

I know my Origins campaign (including all DLC's) is buggy but it is more functional than buggy. I've discovered that my recent crashes were because of a mod I had installed that added new armours with special tints. Once I stopped wearing that particular armor, the CTD's disappeared altogether. At one point, I had to use the console to get to the Anvil because the way was blocked prematurely and my PC couldn't get to the death-puzzles. That was the first and only time I've ever had to use the console.

Bottomline: as imperfect as Dragon Age is, it is still a playable and very enjoyable game.

I agree with Lilith. We've seen enough of short DLC's. No more appetizers; let's get on with the main course. Bring on the Dragon!

[cedgedc]

Okay so I'm a bit late to reply to this, but I just played through Witch Hunt last night. First of all, back to the main question of a Witch Hunt part 2:

Why would we want a Witch Hunt part 2? Put all the crap about promises aside. This ends on possibly the most frustrating, unsatisfying cliff hanger I've experienced in a game.

I had greater closure with the original plot. Now I play through WH,  and find out all this extra junk is going on and I can't find out what. The only time leaving a cliffhanger like that is excusable is basically if the company went bankrupt before they could come out with the next installment (i.e. the baldurs gate series for ps2). If you have the money, tell people you're going to do something, give them a monster cliff hanger, and then decide 'Ehhh, never mind lets do something else.' it just shows fickleness and a lack of dedication to the player base.

As for DA2: Just cause a product is newer doesn't make it better. Case and point:
Bioware's: Neverwinter Nights 2. You might laugh at the example, but
it's really quite perfect. Lots of people played and loved Nwn 1 because
of how flexible it was. Nwn2 was shinier but lost much of what people
liked from the first, and who played it? No one.

I can see how some of what happens in DAO will have an impact. It's the same world I suppose. But from all i've read, you choose between a human male or female. Which basically implies a much more tightly scripted storyline and a lot less variety.

The whole premise of DAO; the whole appeal is that it's a tremendously immersing world, it's got a great story.. but the story is as much yours as it can be. If I wanted to play some RPG where I have a predesignated character and fewer (if any) real decisions to make, I'd still be playing final fantasy's.

Considering I haven't read anything about importing characters from DAO into DA2, I'm gonna go ahead and say that the only impact you'll feel from the first game is quite simply that there was a blight at some point and some champion dude (or dudette!) killed the big dragon.

I don't think you can so quickly write off that it's only a minority of people who would rather continue on with the characters they've already invested so many hours into: which they customized themselves, and had  a relatively unique backstory- than play some cookie cut, predesignated character, just for the sake of being able to mention his name in some cut scenes.